Hang on, haven’t we started to produce from our academy. Our academy is actually doing fantastically well.
Glazers / Woodward out! (One down)
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In the latest episode of the United Hour Podcast, Nik (@Rood) and Imran (@Annihilate Now!) are here to discuss Amad saving our blushes in a win against Southampton as well as our now annual loss at home to Brighton. They discuss Amorim's post-match comments, revisit how mid-table we may or may not be, and discuss some transfer news.
Hang on, haven’t we started to produce from our academy. Our academy is actually doing fantastically well.
Yeah it's been impressive when you look at the likes of McT, Rashford, Tuanzebe and William's before the likes of Garner and Greenwood. I am not advocating for an overhaul of the youth system but for someone to come in and sync all the football operations together so that when the likes of Arnold are excited by the social media numbers and Ole is busy with the first team we have someone working everyday on the long term growth of the football side and not treat the football business as an afterthought.
But.. isn’t that exactly what is happening?
Because right now we have a manager who understands this aspect of the club i.e. the need for long term planning and the importance of the youth. What if things don't work out with that manager? Would Jose have risked his job on the likes of Martial, Rashford, James, Tuanzebe etc coming good? We need that long view being held by someone with football intelligence at the upper echelons of the club so that when the manager goes we don't start from scratch.
No Jose didn’t have that view, which is why he was destined to fail. A lot of the shortcomings we have at the moment come from hiring Jose.
You are explaining my point brilliantly, our system is too dependent on who the manager is and his whims. If we had LVG instead of Jose we would never have bought Lindelof and Axel would be like Rashford now, a settled PL player. This is why I am saying we need someone up there to ensure that someone like Jose never walks through the door again.
It's not a misconception if you take into consideration the ins & outs. The window just gone we let Herrera go on a free with no one to replace him. Fellaini departed before that with no one coming in. Lukaku let go with no one coming in. Sanchez also on loan with out someone coming in. Big clubs with serious ambition don't operate in such a way.
I agree, and it is shown this season.
We have never had serious ambition under the Glazers. They have shown time and time that they will never...ever go beyond our means after things like interest payments, dividends etc are taken into account.
My main point is that our relative lack of spending in the last three years isn't because of an impending sale but because the Glazers are simply not inclined to take financial risks. Even with those outgoings you mentioned, we still have one of the most bloated, over paid squads with players we can't ship out. Our revenues have flat-lined over the last few years but costs keep going up.
The Glazers took a huge risk by buying the club via a leveraged buyout. So risks in the transfer market even with flat-lined revenues are miniscule in comparison. The Adidas deal will also take a hit with another season out of the Champions League.
The Saudi's present Glazers with possibly the best exit strategy with their vast wealth. Richard Arnold is also literally living in Saudi with the number of times he's frequented the country in the last few years.
I don't know the particulars of our finances but I think we can afford to spend more than we have spent in the past two summers, may something in the region £80m - £100m.
The new owners will want to start with their own set up, manager, staff and of course players.
They wont be wanting to deal with a lot of cleaning up.
Because we are so huge, only a handful of people can buy us.
They wont be wanting to deal with a lot of cleaning up.
Because we are so huge, only a handful of people can buy us.
Hope that filthy war chest is available already in January 
Couldn't agree more. This should not be forgotten.
Basically nothing to report. We all know United delegation are there but no one actually knows whether a sale will be discussed.
I'm guessing we will hear more over the weekend as this event they have gone to, is over 3 days.
Oh, have they been invited to a wedding?
The future investment event is over 3 days.
well it is true.
Expensive signings. Massive wages. Aging players.
He was backed too much judged on his transfer record.
Many saudi journalist was urging the Saudi investment fund to buy the club.
this is a very known journo who wrote an article about how is it important for the Saudi investment fund should think about the deal and make it happen, he said there is nothing better for the Saudi investment than being connected with the greatest football club in the world.
He posted another picture with Arnold and said he tried to know if there is any truth in the deal between Saudia and the Glazers, but he said he couldnt get any information about any deal and all the talks were confidential.
Are you from Saudi? What do you think about the rumours? Much chatter for a long time so it might be something in it imo (without any knowledge whatsoever about it).
Nope im not from Saudi. I dont believe MBS wants to buy the club. Saudi officials came out and said MBS has no time for sports. But I suspect that the saudi fund is considering buying the club or maybe a percentage.
Thanks for replying to my earlier reply.
Who are the 'Saudi fund'? Why would they be considering to buy and not MBS himself?
In any case, highly doubt any Saudi fund is making any concrete plan until the listing of ARAMCO is finalised.
Saudi takeover is probably the only way can get rid of the Glazers right? I mean buying them out is gonna cost a ridiculous amount of money.
Another question, as of this moment, the Glazers own 75.7% of the club?
Another question, as of this moment, the Glazers own 75.7% of the club?
Oh ok. Yea, I read about these earlier. It would be interesting to understand why that journalist suggested PIF should purchase United?!
Its blowing up on twitter. Loads of Man United linked accounts (people who you'd think would know better) are talking about it. Seems to stem from this earlier.
I think this will happen, just not sure when. Just seems all too obvious really, doesn't it? Sadly the only exit I see from the Glazers.
The stock price on NYSE has hardly moved - it is usually quite good at latching on to credible rumours.
Sad times really for me. If it happens I will lose a lot of passion for the club. And when you look at it, it’s really been a slow painful death under the glazers and now this, money talks. Let’s see what happens but a lot of smoke there now.
From that guys LinkedIn -
Please let this be true! I don't see any other way that United can return to being a top European team with the Glazers in charge. The Saudi's won't invest and be associated with an average team, which United currently are. Heavy investment will be done, similar to PSG & City early on.
My sentiments exactly, the Saudis present the perfect exit for the Glazers and owning United has its benefits in terms of prestige. It's just a matter of when in my opinion.
If this does happen then a club that can compete with every other club self-sufficiently will go from being leeched to being (PR aside) again denied the opportunity to win on its own merits.
is this actually credible?Its blowing up on twitter. Loads of Man United linked accounts (people who you'd think would know better) are talking about it. Seems to stem from this earlier.
Very much doubt it.