Ferguson did have a semblance of control over transfers fees and wages which helped David Gill. Fergie also got involved in negotiations for certain transfers incomings which is also documented. David Gill did his administrator duties whilst the genius of Fergie made a little go a long way.
Glazers / Woodward out! (One down)
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In the latest episode of the United Hour Podcast, Nik (@Rood) and Imran (@Annihilate Now!) are here to discuss Amad saving our blushes in a win against Southampton as well as our now annual loss at home to Brighton. They discuss Amorim's post-match comments, revisit how mid-table we may or may not be, and discuss some transfer news.
Sir Alex helped by trying to persuade the players he wanted to join the club. Its no different to what Mou and Ole did later on. He never negotiated salaries or fees. That was always the money men's domain.
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Wrong, he did. I'll use the quotes of former United player Sam Johnstone to prove you wrong for the umpteenth time.
"He was massively involved but more so when we got to about 13," said Johnstone.
Johnstone added: "He used to do all the contracts, so I remember going in for my first one after my scholarship ended at 18, 19 [years old] and he wouldn’t have anything to do with agents"
https://www.manchestereveningnews.c...nchester-united-alex-ferguson-agents-17940770
Yeah we all know the obvious downsides, one many don’t seem to full understand though is that the grass is most certainly not always greener.
The next owner needs to be an entity like the Saudi’s, if not then any businessman will want a return on investment. That return could dwarf the relatively small dividends the Glazers take out of the club annually.
Careful what you wish for, I’m only hoping it’s the Saudi’s so we don’t continue to slide under another money hungry owner who isn’t interested remotely in winning trophies.
Had it on Sat, felt fine, walked nearly 2 mile yesterday, not good last night, thinking I’ll be back to normal tomorrow. Hope you are too.
He helped academy kids in getting the right contract for them. He didn't negotiate with clubs and agents.
What part of 'he did all the contracts' and 'he was heavily involved' didn't you understand about the contractual arrangements as the club at the time?
Thanks mate. Let's see. I hope we are both back to normal soon.
There's a huge different between negotiating a deal with a super star whose playing with a top club and negotiating a deal with a kid from the academy whose a breakthrough talent at best
I suggest you read this article. It describes how things were done at the time
https://www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk/business/former-man-utd-chief-executive-10070089
I suggest you read this from Keith Gillespie who transfered from United to Newcastle as part of the Andy Cole deal, and how Fergie was the only United representative who negotiated his wage with Newcastle after getting permission from Gillespie's Mother to represent him. Fergie negotiated a deal with the Newcastle hierachy for Gillespie which far exceeded his salary at United at the time and Fergie was also heavily involved in the Andy Cole negotiations. This is why we call him a genius.
https://strettynews.com/2020/07/05/...into-significantly-increasing-players-salary/
Yeah you might be right, just can't help myself to have bad feelings about it. Especially after hating Man City for it for so long. But we deserve some fun after suffering nearly 10yrs.
No Hazard
No Lucas
No Benzema
No Tevez
No Sneijder
No Modric
No David Silva
No Aguero
Don’t talk to us about well run ship. The owners need to go and stop bigging up CEO’s who ran for them. I mean Ed atleast spent the money.
Once again we're talking about local kids on their first professional contracts and with usually no agents around. Sir Alex would not negotiate the fee/salary for a complex multi millionaire deal like that made with Berbatov. The money people would do that
Its time for the Glazers to go in my opinion. It's clear their future plans for the club are so far from the ambitions of the players, staff and fans that we cannot have them running our club anymore.
Fergie was involved in many deals when it came to negotiations and he was one of the negotiators on behalf of the club on several deals. He dealt with contract extentions/renewals with yes men like David Gill just following orders. He had immense control at the club and the Andy Cole deal which was a record at the time is just one example of how involved Fergie was when it came to transfers.
Sir Alex would talk with top players but the nitty gritty was done by the CEO.
Take Batistuta deal as an example. Sir Alex wanted him, Edwards looked at it and decided not to go with it as it would break United's wage structure. Edwards (he was the CEO during Cole's time) was one of the toughest people Sir Alex had to deal with. Graham had to lent Sir Alex his contract at Arsenal as proof to justify his salary increase request
Ello kid. How's that delusion now? Take your delusion and turn it sideways
Negotiations never took place for Batistuta so it's a moot point. But if they had taken place, then Fergie would've been involved in the negotiation process which is my point.
So now Gary Nev joins the GlazersOut team? After years of ignoring and not actually naming the Glazers on how they run the clubo
Thing is, we are and always will be entirely different to City.
They exist in their current guise because of their owners.
Manchester United have always done it the hard way and we are the most successful team in the league.
Having similar owners to City doesn’t make us their equal, we would still be only spending our hard earned cash, they are spending nothing but Oil money, all it would mean for us is having an owner that permits the club to spend its own earned money without restriction of greedy owners.
dare I say it now we be a good time to have a massive feck off protest
edit: just saw there is one, fecking come on!
edit: just saw there is one, fecking come on!
Taking a thread off topic
It wasn’t directed at you as an attack, yours was the last post. If I was less inept I’d have added the other dude into what I posted as well. Just assumed he’d read it and understand that the ‘you two’ was directed his way as well. Not to worry, enjoy your graft, or attempts at avoiding graft anyway!
The sheer ignorance of the Owners vying for the ESL is absolutely beyond comprehension.
They hugely underestimated what these plans would mean for the hundreds of million stakeholders. It's got to be the biggest PR blooper in history...certainly sporting history.
As for the Glazer's, I can't see where they go from here. Surely there can't be many more nails we can hammer into their proverbial coffins?
They hugely underestimated what these plans would mean for the hundreds of million stakeholders. It's got to be the biggest PR blooper in history...certainly sporting history.
As for the Glazer's, I can't see where they go from here. Surely there can't be many more nails we can hammer into their proverbial coffins?
Gary Linekers still Ed’s mate
Guess they can still go on pub crawls with Steve Parish and Max Branning from Eastenders.They should have been out 10-15 years ago.
I'd take relegation if it means we're rid of them. At least there's no chance of anyone inviting us to a Super League if we're in the Championship.
Interesting to see our budget comes next summer. I bet it'll be less than 50m.
Agreed
We need to go for the head of the snake, the Glazers! Don't let up till they're down and out!
The incompetent Ed Woodward is gone and become a scapegoat for the Glazers.
Now we need to go for the real leeches and the greedy bastard Glazers. They can't just hide behind forever and keep taking money out of Man Utd. They use the club own money to buy the club in the first place! This is criminal and something need to be done.
Wonder if there are still any idiot posters here will come out to defend Glazers and Ed.. they invest in the club, running the club well, good owners, bla bla....
I wonder if Woodward resigning is a precursor to the Glazer's actually selling us, a man can dream.
Gary Linekers still Ed’s mate
How Max Branning bagged that connect is hilarious
Still won't top Barry singing the inauguration for Biden