Why would he join Liverpool? They already have Allison with Kellehar as backup so dont need another keeper
Giorgi Mamardashvili
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Why would he join Liverpool? They already have Allison with Kellehar as backup so dont need another keeper
I get the Liverpool links as Allison may not be there long term, don't get the point of him moving to United when we have Onana who is still young and clearly no. 1.
Don’t think that Liverpool will want to sell him unless he pushes really hard for that Saudi money
The rumour is he will go on loan to Bournemouth if/when he joins Liverpool. Edit: he actually can’t legally join Liverpool and go straight on loan, so it would be: > loan to Bournemouth this season; > Join Liverpool next season
I also do not think he would displace Onana, but I rate our ‘keeper far more highly than most of this forum.
Won’t somebody think of the Caoimhin.
In fairness, Guardiola had the same thing with Claudio Bravo who was way worse than Onana in every way. There's also Arteta and Ramsdale more recently.
Ah I didn’t know this, makes much more sense
Depends how you want to look at it. There are so many United fans who are full of excuses regarding ETH, regarding Antony and also re Onana. He was absolute crap up till now, Mamardashvili is very talented and should be considered, we will need a new GK next summer at the latest.
He has only two years left on his current contract. It’s not unthinkable that they don’t renew and he leaves before 2026.
He is better than Onana
It’s until June 2027 so three years and he’s 31, so not even old for a GK. Considering they need a big rehaul elsewhere soon, I think they’ll try to keep him for a foreseeable future
Yes it's odd that Liverpool are pushing for him. Unless Alison has refused a new contract and they plan to sell him to Saudi next year.
If we go for him and I can't really see it then Onana's days are numbered. Georgi is a better goalkeeper and even Onana's perceived strength, his distribution, has been distinctly average at best.
Thought the same thing, saw rumblings on Youtube about this interest (rumors) and wasn't surprised it wasn't picked up by the forums, but now with it coming from Mullock it changes the dynamic given he's a source as you mentioned with some degree of credibility.
Only seen Giorgi perform at the Euro's and he's preferably more in the mold I would subjectively look for in a goalkeeper.
I don't think Onana has been as bad as many have labelled him but he's certainly not been one of the managers more assured signings.
Don't know what it is with Onana there's just not a confidence with him behind the sticks.
He really isn't.
Yes he is. Much better shot stopper. But we are stuck with Onana while ETH is manager. Hope he doesn't go to Liverpool as Alison's long term replacement.
I’m a sucker for a tall, imposing, dominant keeper
Tall, dark and Hand-Some?
You're right, it wouldn't, but finishing around 8th again also wouldn't reflect well on him! But it (hopefully) looks like he has finally realized his mistake with Antony, and again, hopefully, this rumor is a sign that he is realizing his mistake with Onana.
I am certain that it isn't, and is instead just agent or journalist nonsense, but I would be ecstatic.
Surely this is the least of our problem positions right now, with a limited budget. Bayindir looks more than competent to me.
Oh, ETH’s not finishing 8th again. He either makes top 4 at least or he’s getting sacked way before finishing 8th happens (full disclosure, we may still finish 8th after he gets the sack, but technically we won’t finish 8th under him). That being said, buying another GK won’t be the difference between finishing 4th or 8th, I’d say. Onana wasn’t really the issue in the PL last year. I think this GK link is really just newspaper gossip nonsense for clicks.
What mistake with Onana? No one could have predicted that Onana would have play virtually a full season with no proper derence or midfield in front of him.
Lets give Onana this season to show what he can do with a proper setup in front of him.
On the line, he was an absolute colossus at the EC. No way is Onana better in actual goalkeeping. However, playing out from the back, i suspect he is nothing special. But then again, we arent great at it, with or without Onana so far.
If we hadnt spent so much on Onana before and wouldnt be desperate for midfielders, i would buy him. Convinced he is top class.
If we hadnt spent so much on Onana before and wouldnt be desperate for midfielders, i would buy him. Convinced he is top class.
His handling and shot stopping on some occasions is a bit sketchy so I don't think a better defence will fix that but +1 that we don't need to mess around with the GK position right now. I really doubt there's such a thing as a generational GK talent - there will be good goalkeepers available every year and we can go in next year for someone like a Vicario if needed.
Bin Onana and get this guy in. Honestly, we're going nowhere with him between the sticks.
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The mistake of spending so much money on a goalkeeper that is simply awful at the main job a goalkeeper has, ie keeping the ball out of the net. His atrocious shot-stopping plus his WWE style in attempting to collect crosses is the mistake, and its a giant one.
He looks like a very cool guy and I wish him well in life, but some of the goals he conceded last year were shocking. And getting beat at your near post repeatedly doesn't have anything to do with the defense and midfield in front of you, unless you're desperate for excuses.
I agree with you that its almost certainly gossip nonsense for clicks, but even the tiniest bit of hope is encouraging and I am going to hold onto it until the window slams shut.
And I would again agree with you that Onana wasn't the issue in the PL last year, but he was certainly a very big part of the problem.
We paid 45m which was a goid price for a goalkeeper that had been one of the best in Europe the previous season in a market where to going rate for goalkeepers had peaked to 70 to 80m
Never been convinced by Onana . If we can upgrade all for it. But still think the midfield is priority right now.
This guy is a top shot stopper and can command the box, but is he good enough on the ball?
With the way we're playing it shouldn't even matter.
It does matter. Having a keeper being good on the ball is still evidently key to how we want to play, think that'll become clearer as the season develops.
Well I hope so but so far our tactics mostly boils down to onana inviting the press then punting it up the pitch.
I really dont want to see him joining Liverpool.
I think it does matter if the manager wants to build from the back, which I assumed is why ETH signed Onana.
I don't see why he would go to Liverpool to be behind Allison and Kelleher? Unless one of those is leaving it makes zero sense to go there.
Hard to think that Slot would bin both of those for a new keeper, they haven't signed anyone and it's probably the only position they really don't need a player for.
This just sniffs of an agent looking to drum up interest in the player for a pay day after a decent Euros.
Makes very little sense, either for Liverpool or us. He is not a pro-active keeper comfortable with his feet.
Both Liverpool/Slot and us/Ten Hag are devoted to having that profile of keeper, and already have Alisson and Onana. Why would any of those, playing catch-up with City/Ederson or Arsenal/Raya, go for a GK not fitting that profile?
And why would a GK who is class in a different kind of set up, want to go from first choice at Valencia to back up at Liverpool or Man Utd?
Ahh, maybe that explains his uselessness?
The noise is that we're looking to sign him with a view to a one/two year loan at Bournemouth. Essentially what Chelsea did with Courtois; sign the most highly rated young keeper on the market and let him develop elsewhere and have him as a contingency if Alisson calls it a day at Liverpool next summer or the year after.
I guess the logic with Bournemouth is that you loan him to a Premier League team to get a sense of how he adapts to the league and whether he can develop the ball playing skills in a more progressive environment. If he doesn't kick on in that regard you could always flip him if he's still valuable as a raw shot stopper.
I guess the logic with Bournemouth is that you loan him to a Premier League team to get a sense of how he adapts to the league and whether he can develop the ball playing skills in a more progressive environment. If he doesn't kick on in that regard you could always flip him if he's still valuable as a raw shot stopper.
But wouldn't he develop better playing for 20-shots-conceded FC !?
I expected INEOS to let the GK issue lie considering we committed big recently but can't hurt to plan two years ahead if so.