Gill Expects Busy Summer

Lance Uppercut

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Manchester United chief executive David Gill will head for his holidays towards the end of June hoping to have charted the future for Sir Alex Ferguson's team.

Despite typically wet Manchester weather and Saturday's chastening Champions League final defeat to Barcelona, thousands of United fans lined the streets for a trophy parade which at least lifted spirits.

As their players headed off for various international commitments, a holiday or, in Edwin van der Sar's case and possibly Paul Scholes' as well, retirement, Gill and manager Sir Alex Ferguson set to work on constructing a squad ready to face the emerging threat of Manchester City and capable of defeating Barca.

"It will be a busier than usual summer this year," Gill told MUTV.

"I will be going away at some point in June and be back for the start of our tour but I will be on with player stuff for the next few weeks I am sure."

The first task will be to discover Scholes' intentions. Out of contract this summer, the 36-year-old claimed last week not to have decided whether to accept Ferguson's offer to extend his career by another season.

Although his own comments from the parade bus this morning indicated at least the potential to carry on, there have been plenty of contrary opinions and a firm announcement is still awaited.

"Reaching 19 titles is not something you ever think about. All you want to do is win something," he said.

"To go on like we have done is a great achievement. Now we want to stretch our lead even more.

"The challenge will always be to get the next one. This one is out of the way now. We will celebrate it today, have a nice summer, then think about winning the next one."

The 'we' in Scholes' statement could refer to the United players or the club as a whole given the length of time he has been at Old Trafford.

If there is anyone less inclined to speak to the media than the midfielder, it is Dimitar Berbatov.

He did not speak to United's in-house station, the only outlet allowed on the bus this morning, and is yet to offer any opinion at his failure even to win a place on the Red Devils bench at Wembley on Saturday.

The Bulgarian was in jovial mood this morning as he took photographs of United's first parade since 1999.

However, it is impossible to believe he could be content with a situation which ended with him being overlooked in favour of a striker, Michael Owen, who was not called into action at Wembley, even when United were desperate for a goal at the end of their 3-1 defeat.

Owen reiterated a desire to remain at Old Trafford, although it does seem unlikely he will be offered a new deal considering new England international Danny Welbeck is expected to return from a largely successful loan spell at Sunderland and other new signings are being mentioned as well.

Ashley Young, Wesley Sneijder and Luka Modric are the men most linked with a move to Old Trafford, although it is hard to imagine more than two of those players will end up at United for the start of next season.

Atletico Madrid's David de Gea seems certain to arrive as Van der Sar's replacement, in addition to Lens' teenage defender Raphael Varane, who has been touted as a potential United purchase for a number of months.

That should at least give Ferguson's squad a fresher look as they assess the challenges which lie ahead.

And, whilst they might have ended up getting rather wet, the general view of the United squad was one of delight that the bus tour went ahead in recognition of their record 19th title, providing them with an uplifting experience to end their club campaign.

"It's crazy," said Rio Ferdinand. "We didn't expect so many people to turn out.

"The last couple of days have been disappointing for us and it could have been a bad summer.

"But this has picked us up. If someone had told us at the start of the season we would win the Premier League again, we would have taken that."
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Guess he hasn't been reading Sarni's posts.
 
Zarlak said:
:devil:

I thought we didn't have any money? :rolleyes:

Almost time to load the old Sky Sports Transfer Clockwatch up at work every day again.
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No no. People on RedCafe now absolutely everything about Manchester United's financial status. Gill is talking bollocks.
 
White lightening and Skips, according to Bebe's Facebook.
 
R_Nick said:
What do you define as 'Bebe-like'?
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Players bought based on projected potential but not actual potential. I will rather we buy player like Welbeck who has a tangible potential, who looks like he can control the ball. Both can fail, but buying someone like Welbeck(if we had to) is what I mean by non 'bebe-like'.
 
championo said:
Players bought based on projected potential but not actual potential. I will rather we buy player like Welbeck who has a tangible potential, who looks like he can control the ball. Both can fail, but buying someone like Welbeck(if we had to) is what I mean by non 'bebe-like'.
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Projected potential not actual potential? I wasn't made for the transfer forum.
 
KM said:
or Crustanoid who has been apparently told that we're signing Young, De Gea and Varane and nobody else.
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And those deals wouldn't keep Gill busy?

Christ, the transfer muppets and their dream of a string of 30m+ signings are always a laugh.
 
I think I actually lost a few brain cells reading that post. They just gave up hope and killed themselves.
 
charleysurf said:
And those deals wouldn't keep Gill busy?

Christ, the transfer muppets and their dream of a string of 30m+ signings are always a laugh.
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No you idiot but how can anyone be sure that we are gonna sign these three players only

Anyways I don't know why knobheads like you post in the transfer forums, all you do is.post in every thread that how we don't have money and how we are not going to sign anyone.
 
Transfer Muppets expect Busier Summer
 
I think he meant buy quality, not potential quality.....but yeah it'll be a busy summer and thats the same for nearly every team
 
KM said:
No you idiot but how can anyone be sure that we are gonna sign these three players only

Anyways I don't know why knobheads like you post in the transfer forums, all you do is.post in every thread that how we don't have money and how we are not going to sign anyone.
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Hey, you're the very definition of a muppet, someone who would start crying if United only bought De Gea, Young and Varane.

Really, what kind of shit is that? They'd be 3 very good additions to the squad. And sorting out such deals is enough to keep Gill busy. Laughing at Crustanoid for daring to suggest that's all United might be is pathetic. If 40m signings are the only thing that get you off then you need help.
 
charleysurf said:
Hey, you're the very definition of a muppet, someone who would start crying if United only bought De Gea, Young and Varane.

Really, what kind of shit is that? They'd be 3 very good additions to the squad. And sorting out such deals is enough to keep Gill busy. Attacking Crustanoid for daring to suggest that's all United might be is pathetic. If 40m signings are the only thing that get you off then you need help.
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You are missing the point. He is simply saying that none of us can definitively state who we are going to sign. Yet some posters do it anyway. It is muppetry of the highest order.
 
charleysurf said:
Hey, you're the very definition of a muppet, someone who would start crying if United only bought De Gea, Young and Varane.

Really, what kind of shit is that? They'd be 3 very good additions to the squad. And sorting out such deals is enough to keep Gill busy. Laughing at Crustanoid for daring to suggest that's all United might be is pathetic. If 40m signings are the only thing that get you off then you need help.
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None of them are central midfielders though so I'd be disappointed if "only" those deals were to keep Gill busy.
 
charleysurf said:
Hey, you're the very definition of a muppet, someone who would start crying if United only bought De Gea, Young and Varane.

Really, what kind of shit is that? They'd be 3 very good additions to the squad. And sorting out such deals is enough to keep Gill busy. Laughing at Crustanoid for daring to suggest that's all United might be is pathetic. If 40m signings are the only thing that get you off then you need help.
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Heh, I've just got a problem with idiots like you who consider themselves to be an authority on United related transfers and always post the same thing in all the threads.

As for me being a muppet


KM said:
and instead decide to give the likes of Pogba, Morrison, Tunnicliffe, Keane and Thorpe chances in the first team, how would you guys feel about that?

Personally I would be very excited about this. Seeing an academy player establish himself in the first team is one of best feelings for a fan and it's always important to have a homegrown core to the team. Besides I genuinely feel all the mentioned have the necessary talent to succeed here.

This is just a hypothetical thread. Ofcourse Fergie knows best and I've absolute faith that the best decision for the club will be taken.
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https://www.redcafe.net/f6/if-we-signed-no-one-summer-330665/

Just few days ago.
 
Lance Uppercut said:
You are missing the point. He is simply saying that none of us can definitively state who we are going to sign. Yet some posters do it anyway. It is muppetry of the highest order.
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But he is saying that signing 3 players does not equal a busy time for Gill, when obviously it does. And it's because the names suggested by Crustanoid are not at the level of a Sanchez or Modric.
 
championo said:
Players bought based on projected potential but not actual potential. I will rather we buy player like Welbeck who has a tangible potential, who looks like he can control the ball. Both can fail, but buying someone like Welbeck(if we had to) is what I mean by non 'bebe-like'.
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charleysurf said:
But he is saying that signing 3 players does not equal a busy time for Gill, when obviously it does. And it's because the names suggested by Crustanoid are not at the level of a Sanchez or Modric.
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No I'm not saying that. I consider it utterly insane how people can put forward their opinions as facts if they don't know anything related to it.
 
charleysurf said:
But he is saying that signing 3 players does not equal a busy time for Gill, when obviously it does. And it's because the names suggested by Crustanoid are not at the level of a Sanchez or Modric.
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Nah, I think that is a lot of assuming on your part. KM has never struck me as a muppet.

Happy to disagree, as SamG would say.
 
KM said:
Heh, I've just got a problem with idiots like you who consider themselves to be an authority on United related transfers and always post the same thing in all the threads.

As for me being a muppet



https://www.redcafe.net/f6/if-we-signed-no-one-summer-330665/

Just few days ago.
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I'll grant you that you're not the very definition of a muppet as I said given that second post, but why does signing Young, De Gea and Varane not equal a busy timefor Gill?
 
championo said:
Players bought based on projected potential but not actual potential. I will rather we buy player like Welbeck who has a tangible potential, who looks like he can control the ball. Both can fail, but buying someone like Welbeck(if we had to) is what I mean by non 'bebe-like'.
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R_Nick said:
I think I actually lost a few brain cells reading that post. They just gave up hope and killed themselves.
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You have lost a few cells putting together projected potential and actual potential? In my field of work, those phrases makes a lot of sense. I think I may have to explain what the difference is.
Projected potential being derived from projection in maths which is actually a prediction into the future that the player may have potential and not the realization of the said potential.

While actual potential in the way I used it just meant, the player obviously demonstrate or there is evidence of what they can become in the near future.

ciderman9000000 said:
Let's sign Welbeck.
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I was saying that if Welbeck was bought presently as he is, it will be based on his demonstrated potential.



R_Nick said:
Projected potential not actual potential? I wasn't made for the transfer forum.
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I really think this is really just a misunderstanding on how we are using the words, but if you want to insult me, it is fine, it is amazing how you are the first to always quote most of my post. Interesting.. I might have offended you sometime ago I think, keep it up.

Anyway, all of this was in answering the question what I called 'Bebe-like'. If you can't put my answer in that context, then I guess I am either crazy, or we don't have the same understanding of the words that I used.
 
charleysurf said:
I'll grant you that you're not the very definition of a muppet as I said given that second post, but why does signing Young, De Gea and Varane not equal a busy timefor Gill?
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I guess people assume that those deals are more or less in the bag now.
 
championo said:
You have lost a few cells putting together projected potential and actual potential? In my field of work, those phrases makes a lot of sense. I think I may have to explain what the difference is.
Projected potential being derived from projection in maths which is actually a prediction into the future that the player may have potential and not the realization of the said potential.

While actual potential in the way I used it just meant, the player obviously demonstrate or there is evidence of what they can become in the near future.



I was saying that if Welbeck was bought presently as he is, it will be based on his demonstrated potential.





I really think this is really just a misunderstanding on how we are using the words, but if you want to insult me, it is fine, it is amazing how you are the first to always quote most of my post. Interesting.. I might have offended you sometime ago I think, keep it up.
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So what you meant was, we should buy people who are already good, instead of people who might one day be good.
 
I'd be happy enough with De Gea, Young and Varane.

Our midfield's good enough for the premier league and for pretty much every team in Europe apart from those freaks on Saturday night.

I just want to see improvement from Fletcher, Anderson and Gibson. And also the possible introduction of a couple of our Youth Cup winning squad- particularly Morrison.

If that happens we'll be fine next season again.
 
charleysurf said:
I'll grant you that you're not the very definition of a muppet as I said given that second post, but why does signing Young, De Gea and Varane not equal a busy timefor Gill?
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You're just making assumptions and I can't do anything related to it.

Crustanoid posted this:


Crustanoid said:
Varane, De Gea, Young....that's all we'll be getting

Muppets
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I raised issue only because as I said earlier because these days many people in the transfer forum has an habit of posting their opinion as facts. I will be happy if we don't make a single signing, however some people have started acting here as if they know everything related United and keep on harping about Value and stuff, and that's what makes it irritating for several other posters.
 
Zarlak said:
So what you meant was, we should buy people who are already good, instead of people who might one day be good.
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Not exactly. Saying that I hope we target players who need a few polish here and there to be one day good. Bebe needs an overhaul.
Is it clearer?
 
championo said:
You have lost a few cells putting together projected potential and actual potential? In my field of work, those phrases makes a lot of sense. I think I may have to explain what the difference is.
Projected potential being derived from projection in maths which is actually a prediction into the future that the player may have potential and not the realization of the said potential.

While actual potential in the way I used it just meant, the player obviously demonstrate or there is evidence of what they can become in the near future.



I was saying that if Welbeck was bought presently as he is, it will be based on his demonstrated potential.





I really think this is really just a misunderstanding on how we are using the words, but if you want to insult me, it is fine, it is amazing how you are the first to always quote most of my post. Interesting.. I might have offended you sometime ago I think, keep it up.

Anyway, all of this was in answering the question what I called 'Bebe-like'. If you can't put my answer in that context, then I guess I am either crazy, or we don't have the same understanding of the words that I used.
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I'm glad you tidied that post up. I don't know what you're on about in saying that I'm always the first to quote you, I certainly don't recall having done so much, but if you frequently make posts like the one about potential potential then I guess it's entirely possible. Or is that potentially possible?

As for you 'clarification', it still makes no sense, potential is potential, if it's already been realised then it's no long potential, so basically you're talking rubbish.
 
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