https://www.br.de/nachrichten/sport...alzstreuer-bewunderung-und-rivalitaet,Tb0grb2
Their meeting at "Schumanns" restaurant in 2015 probably is the source for this admiration Pep has for Tuchel, and there Tuchel had no assistant or midfield general or whatever to make him look better.
A one-off meeting does not a good tactician make. Sure, Pep may have been impressed, but by what standard?
Did Pep see him as genuinely great, or just "not bad for a young German coach coming from a largely backward league with only Mainz experience under his belt"?
Would Pep still have been impressed by the meeting to the same extent if it was later revealed that Benjamin Weber really had done all the work on the pitch?
And was it really something Klopp, Enrique, de Zerbi, Emery, Arteta, ten Hag, Inzaghi, Alonso, S. Hoeness, Favre or even Manuel Baum couldn't have discussed with Pep at any better level?
And pretty sure the meeting was planned and agreed upon in advance. Who's to say that he didn't have Benjamin Weber prepare him for it to impress Pep and wasn't just parroting Weber's words? Who's to say he didn't lie about reading books about Pep? Either he did and is too stupid to understand his methods to apply them to the current Bayern side, or he was lying and didn't read anything at all.
Pretty sure all Bayern fans here agree with me on Tuchel being a fraud. It's pretty telling that, out of everyone who knows any German, I could count the ones who still think he's a decent coach on one hand and still have fingers left over.
@Zehner,
@do.ob,
@stefan92, and that's it. None of them are Bayern fans.
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The best argument for Tuchel actually not being a fraud would be that Bayern players lack discipline. They just sacked the team manager Kathleen Krüger for daring to call out the players from being late, and three players (Goretzka, Davies and Gnabry)
were partying just after the Leipzig win until 4 AM. Normally that wouldn't be too bad, but during a crisis, you can only get out of it by working harder.
As for the Freiburg draw,
Tuchel even pointed out that he'd talked in a video meeting about defending against Freiburg, and complained about his players not understanding his instructions despite "clearly communicating them". He didn't really seem to single out Kimmich in the press conference though as the article suggests, but how did he actually communicate? Was he lying and actually didn't analyze Freiburg at all? Was the content of the video analysis good enough? Were the problems Freiburg would pose addressed well? If so, were they actually communicated clearly enough that Kimmich, Tel, Goretzka and others could understand them? He tends to use big words in interviews, so did that get in the way?
Why did he sub Musiala out? Did he think he was too tired and was trying to save him for the far more important CL game even if it cost the Freiburg game, or even fearing an injury given everything going wrong? Or was it the result of his antiquated understanding of football, sacrificing the midfield for an extra defender in the dying minutes?
Why did he sub Guerreiro for Davies like-for-like instead of subbing out Goretzka for Davies to move Guerreiro into the midfield? Didn't he think of it, or did he believe he was having an off day and wouldn't help in the mid anyway? Or was he thinking of the CL game and wanted to rest Guerreiro (who recently played a lot despite his injury proneness) and ease Davies into it?
Even if his subs all had to do with Lazio in mind, and his Freiburg prep was actually on-point, what did he really expect from blurting out Kimmich would play as RB in the pre-match presser all the while admitting Freiburg is a tactically extremely clever team? That Streich wouldn't exploit Kimmich's lack of pace ruthlessly? If he didn't give it away, for all we know, Freiburg would have a harder time preparing for Bayern, and Tuchel's talks would have worked, with the right side not being put under so much pressure!
Tuchel apologists on German/Bayern forums tend to argue that Thiago and Pep carried Kimmich, and Flick's COVID season got the best out of Goretzka. The two are seen as too lacking in technique, discipline and/or football IQ, or at least too spoiled from all the German NT/CL winner hype. There's definitely some grain of truth there, but Nagelsmann still did far better with the same players even without a striker. Even if all Kimmich and Goretzka are good for is high pressing and "Leipzig ball", why did Tuchel abandon that and moved on to something they're incapable of?
Why did he want Palhinha? The idea was that Kimmich was more of a "no 8" than a "no 6", which would mean that a "holding 6" like Palhinha would free him up to do what he's best at, but would that actually help the team? The problem is everyone knows how to play against Bayern, and knew even at the start of the season: press or mark the technician (Kimmich or Pavlovic) out of the game, leaving Goretzka to helplessly attempt to build up half the time and do nothing the other half. Palhinha wouldn't be able to step up at all. Did Tuchel neglect the real problems of the team, or did he just think Palhinha's actually a solid passer with decent enough build up?
He had lots of time to train passing drills, rondos and movement. Why does Bayern players look undertrained and are injured often despite that? His public trainings definitely look pretty basic compared to Pep's, Klopp's or Alonso's. Are his secret training sessions much better? He often brings up how well the training sessions go. Is he just lying? Even if he's not, is it more about the energy and intensity in them, or are the training methods actually good but the players somehow have a mental block about executing them? Some players like Pavlovic, Dier and Guerreiro tend to be on his side and three of the best performers currently. They're trying things and succeeding more often than not, but most players aren't even putting the supposedly advanced training methods into practice. Two BILD journos stated that his training was too sophisticated for the players to understand one month ago, rather than the opposite even though it definitely looks like that from the outside. And even someone as smart, opinionated, suffer-no-fools-gladly as Müller doesn't contradict Tuchel or criticize his approach (at least openly), even though he had no problem rebelling against Kovac and Ancelotti's negligence. He and Tuchel also seem to get along well. Does Müller actually rate Tuchel's training and tactics highly, or did he become more laid-back with age and passing of his prime? Or does he just criticize him behind closed doors?
Is his way of working in Bayern actually better than given credit for, or is it just as bad as it looks? No journalist discovered any vocal criticisms of his tactics or approach in any case. You'd think if he was so incompetent and underqualified, an odd scathing comment from intelligent, opinionated guys like de Ligt or Müller would have leaked out, but it's also far from implausible that they're such consummate professionals that they still respect their coach, or he's so charismatic that he managed to charm even them into believing in him.