Geovany Quenda - Summer 2025

[Widow]

Why are we talking about this guy?

First off he is as much of a wingback as Amad is, who is also left footed and recently got a new contract. Additionally we just hugely invested on a left footed wingback.

No chance we are signing him especially in our current financial situation, so lets move on.

Say you haven't watched him play without saying you haven't watched him play...

 

[ole@thewheel]

As much a wing-back as Amad is? Amad who is the best wing-back at the club? I think you'll be in for a shock because we are absolutely going to attempt to sign him.

Exactly my point. Why would we sign an additional player when our best wingback at the club already plays on the same position? 50-60m for a bench player when we are short of 4-5 first team players?

But hey, I hope you are right and I am wrong...

 

[Remember the geese]

Exactly my point. Why would we sign an additional player when our best wingback at the club already plays on the same position? 50-60m for a bench player when we are short of 4-5 first team players?

But hey, I hope you are right and I am wrong...

Quenda won't be a bench player. It just means that Amad will be playing as one of the 10's.

 

[Teja]

Quenda won't be a bench player. It just means that Amad will be playing as one of the 10's.

Too many left footers .. if that's a thing.

I mostly kid but say you need someone to whip it in from the RW and have Amad / Quenda in that space you loose that entirely.

 

[Remember the geese]

Too many left footers .. if that's a thing.

I mostly kid but say you need someone to whip it in from the RW and have Amad / Quenda in that space you loose that entirely.

Amorim loves his left footers.

 

[Zumbi]

Exactly my point. Why would we sign an additional player when our best wingback at the club already plays on the same position? 50-60m for a bench player when we are short of 4-5 first team players?

But hey, I hope you are right and I am wrong...

This is such a bizarre take. It genuinely makes me wonder if you’ve been watching us play since November. Amad has played WB because we have no proper wingbacks. We’re never going to get anywhere playing Dalot and Mazraoui there, and we’ve also lost almost all our main attacking wide players with Rashford, Sancho and Anthony all but gone. We are absolutely desperate for another top quality WB if we want Amorim’s system to work.

 

[Widow]

Too many left footers .. if that's a thing.

I mostly kid but say you need someone to whip it in from the RW and have Amad / Quenda in that space you loose that entirely.

He's got a decent right foot and he's able to beat a man on the outside, he doesn't just cut in.

 

[MyOnlySolskjaer]

Exactly my point. Why would we sign an additional player when our best wingback at the club already plays on the same position? 50-60m for a bench player when we are short of 4-5 first team players?

But hey, I hope you are right and I am wrong...

So Dalot never plays for this club again.

 

[MyOnlySolskjaer]

Too many left footers .. if that's a thing.

I mostly kid but say you need someone to whip it in from the RW and have Amad / Quenda in that space you loose that entirely.

Well this actually worked well for him in Sporting.

 

[ole@thewheel]

This is such a bizarre take. It genuinely makes me wonder if you’ve been watching us play since November. Amad has played WB because we have no proper wingbacks. We’re never going to get anywhere playing Dalot and Mazraoui there, and we’ve also lost almost all our main attacking wide players with Rashford, Sancho and Anthony all but gone. We are absolutely desperate for another top quality WB if we want Amorim’s system to work.

What I am saying is that this guy is too similar to one of our best performers this season. He is a left footed RW that can play as a RWB, exactly like Amad.

He will be such a 'niche' buy, which warranted will suit Amorim's style, but it doesn't work if we revert back to back four.

You can see that logic with Dorgu signing for example, who can actually play as a full-back.

If we sign a wingback this summer (and I think we should) I can see us going for someone that would be in that mould (Frinpong, Vanderson among others)

 

[simonhch]

What I am saying is that this guy is too similar to one of our best performers this season. He is a left footed RW that can play as a RWB, exactly like Amad.

He will be such a 'niche' buy, which warranted will suit Amorim's style, but it doesn't work if we revert back to back four.

You can see that logic with Dorgu signing for example, who can actually play as a full-back.

If we sign a wingback this summer (and I think we should) I can see us going for someone that would be in that mould (Frinpong, Vanderson among others)

I really don’t see it as a nice buy. We have virtually no forwards. This guy will play wingback under Amorim and if we have a different coach and revert to 4-3-3, he will become part of the rotation of forward players. No one can get through a season with one right winger, and in Quenda we would be buying one of the most promising young players in the world. Considering he can also play on the left and Amad can also play as a 10, I don’t see there being anything niche about it.

 

[Zumbi]

What I am saying is that this guy is too similar to one of our best performers this season. He is a left footed RW that can play as a RWB, exactly like Amad.

He will be such a 'niche' buy, which warranted will suit Amorim's style, but it doesn't work if we revert back to back four.

You can see that logic with Dorgu signing for example, who can actually play as a full-back.

If we sign a wingback this summer (and I think we should) I can see us going for someone that would be in that mould (Frinpong, Vanderson among others)

I would take another player like Amad in a heartbeat - they’re exactly the sort of players we need more of. We are desperately short of attacking quality out wide and having Amad at right 10 with Quenda at RWB would be a massive upgrade on what we have currently, and greatly increase the chances of Amorim’s system actually working.

Right now, even if Amad was fit, we’d likely be playing him at 10 and Dalot at RWB, and Dalot is rubbish.

And I don’t see how Quenda is a “niche” signing. He’s one of the most highly touted young talents in Europe and can play winger or wingback on either side. If we revert to a back four, he just slots in on one of the wings - again, an area where we’re desperately short because we’re in the process of losing three of our highest profile wide players.

 

[aeh1991]

People don't understand that it will take a lot of time until he can reproduce here what he's doing at Sporting. And most of you plan with him as a starter. In our situation it's much wiser to invest in a more experienced RWB to replace Dalot and later get Quenda (and if another club has taken him already or he explodes and becomes unpayable, it is how it is).

 

[Remember the geese]

People don't understand that it will take a lot of time until he can reproduce here what he's doing at Sporting. And you want to plan him as a starter. In our situation it's much wiser to invest in a more experienced RWB to replace Dalot and later get Quenda (and if another club has taken him already or he explodes and becomes unpayable, it is how it is).

Who is a more experienced RWB that is better than Quenda? They have to be realistic too.

 

[Zumbi]

People don't understand that it will take a lot of time until he can reproduce here what he's doing at Sporting. And most of you plan with him as a starter. In our situation it's much wiser to invest in a more experienced RWB to replace Dalot and later get Quenda (and if another club has taken him already or he explodes and becomes unpayable, it is how it is).

Maybe. Maybe not. Sometimes even young players can have an immediate impact if they have the right attributes. Depends how big a talent Amorim and our scouts really think he is. Taking a gamble on young talent may be the only realistic path to affording top talent, and it’s fairly well documented how our failures to take such gambles in the past have cost us dearly.

 

[aeh1991]

Who is a more experienced RWB that is better than Quenda? They have to be realistic too.

Better:
Jeremie Frimpong
Vanderson
Raoul Bellanova
Pedro Porro
Tiago Santos (before his ACL injury)

Cheap alternative:
Zakaria El Ouhadi
Wesley Franca

Could also play RWB:
Wilfried Singo
Anthony Elanga
Nathan Tell
Ansgar Knauff

My personal opinion. The first three would instantly improve us. Aside from El Ouhadi and Franca they're all from better leagues too. I just don't rate the Portuguese league. I think Quenda is immensely talented but I would rather let him grow for 1-2 years before signing him as a starter.

 

[Remember the geese]

Better:
Jeremie Frimpong
Vanderson
Raoul Bellanova
Pedro Porro
Tiago Santos (before his ACL injury)

Cheap alternative:
Zakaria El Ouhadi

Could also play RWB:
Wilfried Singo
Anthony Elanga
Nathan Tell
Ansgar Knauff

My personal opinion. I just don't rate the Portuguese league. I think Quenda is immensely talented but I would rather let him grow for 1-2 years before signing him as a starter.

I have serious doubts over some of those players who you claim to be better than him. I'd much rather us sign him than any of them, that's for sure. I don't think that letting him grow is a luxury we can afford.

 

[aeh1991]

I have serious doubts over some of those players who you claim to be better than him. I'd much rather us sign him than any of them, that's for sure. I don't think that letting him grow is a luxury we can afford.

Fair enough. As I said it's a personal opinion. After watching Dorgu getting roasted and Mainoo's form dropping, I just believe it's not wise to bring in a 17 year old for 50m and expect him to become a starter.

 

[Zumbi]

Better:
Jeremie Frimpong
Vanderson
Raoul Bellanova
Pedro Porro
Tiago Santos (before his ACL injury)

Cheap alternative:
Zakaria El Ouhadi
Wesley Franca

Could also play RWB:
Wilfried Singo
Anthony Elanga
Nathan Tell
Ansgar Knauff

My personal opinion. The first three would instantly improve us. Aside from El Ouhadi and Franca they're all from better leagues too. I just don't rate the Portuguese league. I think Quenda is immensely talented but I would rather let him grow for 1-2 years before signing him as a starter.

Waiting till we can’t afford him before not signing him because we can’t afford him just sounds like a really poorly thought out plan.

 

[aeh1991]

Waiting till we can’t afford him before not signing him because we can’t afford him just sounds like a really poorly thought out plan.

It's not a plan. It's just a decision to not sign him now.

 

[Posh Red]

Waiting till we can’t afford him before not signing him because we can’t afford him just sounds like a really poorly thought out plan.

Yep. The best way for the club to get out of this hole long term is to buy the best young talent. Not everyone can stomach it, though.

 

[Zumbi]

It's not a plan. It's just a decision to not sign him now.

A decision on what you’re going to do in the future is literally a plan.

Semantics aside, doesn’t change the point I’m making.

 

[aeh1991]

A decision on what you’re going to do in the future is literally a plan.

Semantics aside, doesn’t change the point I’m making.

If we miss out on him, there will surely be another talent elsewhere.

 

[Zumbi]

If we miss out on him, there will surely be another talent elsewhere.

Given our dire need for talent now, I don’t really see how that helps us much.

 

[aeh1991]

Given our dire need for talent now, I don’t really see how that helps us much.

As I said I think it's a opinion / taste thing. For me, signing talents is not a priority as I think we have many already (Mainoo still counts, Yoro, Kone, Chido Obi, Heaven, Amass, Leon, etc.). I'd rather get more experience and make us more competitive. Doesn't rule out that Quenda would bring those qualities, maybe there's a good chance that he does. But there is a risk and it only gives him pressure if we spend half of our summer budget on him alone.

 

[Zumbi]

As I said I think it's a opinion / taste thing. For me, signing talents is not a priority as I think we have many already (Mainoo still counts, Yoro, Kone, Chido Obi, Heaven, Amass, Leon, etc.). I'd rather get more experience and make us more competitive. Doesn't rule out that Quenda would bring those qualities, maybe there's a good chance that he does. But there is a risk and it only gives him pressure if we spend half of our summer budget on him alone.

Despite his age, Quenda is in different category than almost all of the ones you listed. Most of them have barely made any senior appearances, whereas Quenda already has more CL experience than a chunk of our squad. Still very young, still very inexperienced, but he’s already had a far bigger impact at a much higher level than the likes of Kone, Chido, Heaven, Amass, Leon.

A more experienced but journeyman type RWB (which is realistically the sort we could afford) also brings risks, and doesn’t necessarily make us competitive. If Amorim thinks Quenda really is one of those top tier talents you snap up as soon as you get the chance, then I think we need to jump on it before we miss our chance. He has attributes we’re absolutely desperate for out wide, and that’s typically a part of the pitch young players can have a bigger impact on more quickly, and so it’s a gamble that makes a lot of sense to me.

I don’t think we’d ever spend half our budget on him, but if we can get rid of Rashford, Anthony and Sancho then we should have the funds for him as well as reinforcing elsewhere. I’d also be looking to ship on Garnacho and Dalot as well though, which would also make an acquisition like Quenda even more pressing.

 

[CM]

So Dalot never plays for this club again.

I honestly think Amorim quite likes him, feck knows why. He starts every single match irrespective of form.

 

[dogwithabone]

He's got a decent right foot and he's able to beat a man on the outside, he doesn't just cut in.

From what I’ve seen, his ability to go on the outside was the stand out feature of his game.

 

[Kingslayer18]

Better:
Jeremie Frimpong
Vanderson
Raoul Bellanova
Pedro Porro
Tiago Santos (before his ACL injury)

Cheap alternative:
Zakaria El Ouhadi
Wesley Franca

Could also play RWB:
Wilfried Singo
Anthony Elanga
Nathan Tell
Ansgar Knauff

My personal opinion. The first three would instantly improve us. Aside from El Ouhadi and Franca they're all from better leagues too. I just don't rate the Portuguese league. I think Quenda is immensely talented but I would rather let him grow for 1-2 years before signing him as a starter.

Unless we sell Dalot, I don't think the club are going to buy an experienced RWB. We're not going to get Porro from Spurs as he will be expensive and Tiago Santos is out and a injury risk given his ACL. While Vanderson and Frimpong are better right now, they can only play as RWB or RB in a back four. So realistically, the club are probably looking at a player like Quenda or Franca but I think Amorim is looking for more a wide attacker who can play as a RWB. Quenda can play as a RWB, LWB, RAM or LAM or as a traditional winger. He offers the squad much more utility than Vanderson or Frimpong. We need wide attackers given Rashford and Antony are on their way out, plus the club may sell Garnacho. Given that, then it makes sense to look at a move for Quenda but I don't think the club are going to overpay, that's why we've seen amounts of 30-35m being bandied about as being the price we are looking to pay.

 

[SamoyedSam]

Roger Fernandes at Braga linked as a cheaper alternative to Quenda. 33m release clause.

 

[aeh1991]

Unless we sell Dalot, I don't think the club are going to buy an experienced RWB. We're not going to get Porro from Spurs as he will be expensive and Tiago Santos is out and a injury risk given his ACL. While Vanderson and Frimpong are better right now, they can only play as RWB or RB in a back four. So realistically, the club are probably looking at a player like Quenda or Franca but I think Amorim is looking for more a wide attacker who can play as a RWB. Quenda can play as a RWB, LWB, RAM or LAM or as a traditional winger. He offers the squad much more utility than Vanderson or Frimpong. We need wide attackers given Rashford and Antony are on their way out, plus the club may sell Garnacho. Given that, then it makes sense to look at a move for Quenda but I don't think the club are going to overpay, that's why we've seen amounts of 30-35m being bandied about as being the price we are looking to pay.

For me that's exactly what I can't understand. I don't think we need a wide attacker since we have Amad. What we lack is a quality RWB and Dalot ain't it. Better sell him and get a proper RWB in. Someone who can put dangerous crosses in. And if we get a goalgetter, he'll profit from those.

 

[MyOnlySolskjaer]

I honestly think Amorim quite likes him, feck knows why. He starts every single match irrespective of form.

Right now it's because he's available. Yoro missed 4/5 months, Licha out for the season, Shaw has barely featured, Maguire now injured, Dorgu suspended 3 games. We haven't been able to keep any consistently available.

 

[Zumbi]

For me that's exactly what I can't understand. I don't think we need a wide attacker since we have Amad. What we lack is a quality RWB and Dalot ain't it. Better sell him and get a proper RWB in. Someone who can put dangerous crosses in. And if we get a goalgetter, he'll profit from those.

Relying on a single wide attacker for a whole season is insanity. Do you honestly look at our bench against Sociedad and think we’re ok for attacking players? I’m absolutely baffled by that. We’re in the process of losing Rashford, Antony, Sancho and we might lose Garnacho. We desperately need to reinforce our squad with attacking wide players, they just need to be versatile enough to player either WB position or one of the 10s.

 

[sherrinford]

Relying on a single wide attacker for a whole season is insanity. Do you honestly look at our bench against Sociedad and think we’re ok for attacking players? I’m absolutely baffled by that. We’re in the process of losing Rashford, Antony, Sancho and we might lose Garnacho. We desperately need to reinforce our squad with attacking wide players, they just need to be versatile enough to player either WB position or one of the 10s.

You are only likely to use one of Quenda or Amad on the right at a time though. Keeping Garnacho instead, for example, still gives an alternative option for the right 10 (I wouldn't be afraid to try him at wing back on that side too, but not seen a willingness to do so from Amorim) and a more natural compliment for Amad were they both to be deployed down the same side.

 

[macheda14]

You are only likely to use one of Quenda or Amad on the right at a time though. Keeping Garnacho instead, for example, still gives an alternative option for the right 10 (I wouldn't be afraid to try him at wing back on that side too, but not seen a willingness to do so from Amorim) and a more natural compliment for Amad were they both to be deployed down the same side.

Why wouldn’t you use them both? Amad as the inside 10 and Quenda as the wing back?

 

[FortunaUtd]

Yep. The best way for the club to get out of this hole long term is to buy the best young talent. Not everyone can stomach it, though.

It's not. Because if you don't have the sensible age structure of a functioning team to surround them and just stack up on immensely expensive teenagers who you expect to "get this club out of this hole" you'll end up ruining both the teenagers's careers and the club's success.

 

[sherrinford]

Why wouldn’t you use them both? Amad as the inside 10 and Quenda as the wing back?

Perhaps they both threaten to go down the line enough to make it work, but generally I wouldn't be aiming to partner two lefties on the right.

 

[Zumbi]

You are only likely to use one of Quenda or Amad on the right at a time though. Keeping Garnacho instead, for example, still gives an alternative option for the right 10 (I wouldn't be afraid to try him at wing back on that side too, but not seen a willingness to do so from Amorim) and a more natural compliment for Amad were they both to be deployed down the same side.

Not at all - most likely Quenda would play RWB and Amad would play right 10.

Garnacho isn’t very good, so I’m not sure how that’s a solution to anything.

 

[aeh1991]

Relying on a single wide attacker for a whole season is insanity. Do you honestly look at our bench against Sociedad and think we’re ok for attacking players? I’m absolutely baffled by that. We’re in the process of losing Rashford, Antony, Sancho and we might lose Garnacho. We desperately need to reinforce our squad with attacking wide players, they just need to be versatile enough to player either WB position or one of the 10s.

When did I say that? Just because I am against signing Quenda doesn't mean I am generally against signing another wide attacker / number 10. If anything, we could buy another player if we don't spend 50m on Quenda.

 

[aeh1991]

It's not. Because if you don't have the sensible age structure of a functioning team to surround them and just stack up on immensely expensive teenagers who you expect to "get this club out of this hole" you'll end up ruining both the teenagers's careers and the club's success.

This.