General Election 2017 | Cabinet reshuffle: Hunt re-appointed Health Secretary for record third time

How do you intend to vote in the 2017 General Election if eligible?

  • Conservatives

    Votes: 80 14.5%
  • Labour

    Votes: 322 58.4%
  • Lib Dems

    Votes: 57 10.3%
  • Green

    Votes: 20 3.6%
  • SNP

    Votes: 13 2.4%
  • UKIP

    Votes: 29 5.3%
  • Independent

    Votes: 3 0.5%
  • Plaid Cymru

    Votes: 2 0.4%
  • Sinn Fein

    Votes: 11 2.0%
  • Other (UUP, DUP, BNP, and anyone else I have forgotten)

    Votes: 14 2.5%

  • Total voters
    551
  • Poll closed .
Why does May want to allow fox hunting?

I really don't get it, is it anything more than a rich man's hobby? Are there any other animals in the UK which are legal to hunt?
 
Why does May want to allow fox hunting?

I really don't get it, is it anything more than a rich man's hobby? Are there any other animals in the UK which are legal to hunt?
Why do people vote Tory? Is it anything more than a rich man's party? Are there people in the UK more stupid than poor Tory voters dumb enough to pay for bankers' greed and still vote Tory?
 
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So clearly no deeper meaning to the fox hunting. Bizarre is all I can call it.
 
Why does May want to allow fox hunting?

I really don't get it, is it anything more than a rich man's hobby? Are there any other animals in the UK which are legal to hunt?
It's a rural/farming thing (i.e., loads of Tory constituents love it), they argue that it's the most effective way of keeping fox populations down so they don't kill chickens and whatnot, and further that the ban is unenforceable. It's shite, cruel and unnecessary and yeah, pretty much a hobby for horsey folk.

Kate Hoey is another fan of it (if you needed yet another reason to vote against her @ThierryHenry)
 
Almost as if we've had a change in government. The BBC programming is left overall its the news programs which are bias to the goverment administration of the time as they have to cosy up to them especially when funding is contentious.

It's a possibility but I am listening to Radio 4 trying to hear this bias and am not. Have a listen to this evening's PM and their treatment of May's energy capping policy. I thought it exceptionally neutral and informative. A couple of rogue tweets doesn't convince me.
 
Depends on how bad it gets. Ironically if it's catastrophic (down to 120 odd, which shouldn't happen but you never can tell) there's more of a chance because that would only require 18 nominations. If it's instead just the more "really bad" scenario of 160, the numbers get a lot harder for them. There's about 20 at the moment if you include the likes of Thornberry and Gardiner who aren't true believers. Bit more uncertainty among the new selections though. I still think if they don't have the numbers they'll just try and keep him in, getting close to Ed's vote share is everything for them at the moment.
I assumed there were more of them than that, might just be mixing those who are supportive of him as leader with the 'true believers'.
I guess the big unknown is then just how much the Momentum movement pops after its first big loss. Both amongst the activists and JC themselves, I've no idea if such a big defeat for the party would shatter confidence for a period, or just fuel them further for their great battle against the Red Tories.
I can't believe vote share would mean anything though? Unless JC goes into the election lowering expectations, any loss of seats will surely be seen by all as a complete defeat.
 
I don't see how he stays after any of the kind of losses predicted. Even his supporters are going to start having second, third and fourth thoughts in the face of an overwhelming Tory win.
The key to this is the taped conversation. Did you listen to it? It's a non-story in itself. It's more damning the way it was covered. LK is a right bitch!
 
I assumed there were more of them than that, might just be mixing those who are supportive of him as leader with the 'true believers'.
I guess the big unknown is then just how much the Momentum movement pops after its first big loss. Both amongst the activists and JC themselves, I've no idea if such a big defeat for the party would shatter confidence for a period, or just fuel them further for their great battle against the Red Tories.
I can't believe vote share would mean anything though? Unless JC goes into the election lowering expectations, any loss of seats will surely be seen by all as a complete defeat.
Guarantee you it'll be a talking point if they get to within 1% of it. Example from Lansman:

Leading on to the true culprits:


I might be overlooking a few fans, and a few more might be more amenable to a candidate with less history though. I also completely forgot about the MEPs, 20 of those so that makes it a bit harder still for them.
 
The key to this is the taped conversation. Did you listen to it? It's a non-story in itself. It's more damning the way it was covered. LK is a right bitch!
You keep fighting for that kinder and gentler politics :lol:
 
One thing with politics is how it's so difficult to predict. In 2010 both major parties campaigned on identical plans for debt reduction, and I would have sworn blind then that whichever ever won would lose the next one, with guaranteed austerity and all. Yet here we are, the 2010 winners are about to win their 3rd. I'm a gambling man but I've learned to steer clear of politics.
 
The BBC are fully aware that it's more than their life, or licence fee, is worth to show overt bias in domestic party politics. Only in foreign politics can they distort their coverage, usually in direct proportion to the subject's distance from the UK, and in indirect proportion to viewers' knowledge of the issues.

The true bias of the Beeb appears in their treatment of non-political (in the strict sense) subjects.

Every historical program featuring women will include a standard homily on the unenlightened attitudes of the past. If, as is usually the case, the life of the woman in question provides no obvious evidence of 'oppression', she will invariably be described as an 'exception to the rule.' So frequent are these exceptional instances in BBC historical documentaries that it might reasonably have occurred to programme makers that calling them 'exceptional' is a misnomer. But politically correct ideology is more important than evidence.

No chance must ever be missed to lament the historical crimes of white people against blacks. Any reference to the history of Australia must include a denunciation of the horrific mistreatment of its native people. The history of slavery is particularly beloved by the Beeb. Some reference to this injustice will be dragged by the scruff of the neck into the most unlikely subjects. However tangled the facts of any particular instance, the correct moral conclusion must always be drawn.

I suspect people who make programmes for the BBC are left in no doubt about the organisation's view of such matters.

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There's a few I'd missed on there - Mearns, Morris and Hussein - but not sure about his reasoning for Hepburn, who seems to have voted no confidence last year.
 
There aren't many conservative propaganda dramas on ITV either. Most people who work in the arts are left wing.
 
Guarantee you it'll be a talking point if they get to within 1% of it. Example from Lansman:

Leading on to the true culprits:

Nah - can't see it being something anyone latches onto, rather than the odd loon online.
 
The BBC are clearly failing. Why don't they show clips of Theresa May like this...

 
The Beeb are left on social issues, and right on politics (or whatever the party in power happens to be.)
 
The BBC are fully aware that it's more than their life, or licence fee, is worth to show overt bias in domestic party politics. Only in foreign politics can they distort their coverage, usually in direct proportion to the subject's distance from the UK, and in indirect proportion to viewers' knowledge of the issues.

The true bias of the Beeb appears in their treatment of non-political (in the strict sense) subjects.

Every historical program featuring women will include a standard homily on the unenlightened attitudes of the past. If, as is usually the case, the life of the woman in question provides no obvious evidence of 'oppression', she will invariably be described as an 'exception to the rule.' So frequent are these exceptional instances in BBC historical documentaries that it might reasonably have occurred to programme makers that calling them 'exceptional' is a misnomer. But politically correct ideology is more important than evidence.

No chance must ever be missed to lament the historical crimes of white people against blacks. Any reference to the history of Australia must include a denunciation of the horrific mistreatment of its native people. The history of slavery is particularly beloved by the Beeb. Some reference to this injustice will be dragged by the scruff of the neck into the most unlikely subjects. However tangled the facts of any particular instance, the correct moral conclusion must always be drawn.

I suspect people who make programmes for the BBC are left in no doubt about the organisation's view of such matters.

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I suppose they're meant to take every opportunity to let someone from the 16th century tell us we're going to hell, just make it fair? Or is 16th century thinking too modern for your taste?
 
Watching The One Show now.

Theresa May has zero charm or charisma but I imagine she's coming across quite well to people. It's crazy how uncomfortable she is in this kind of setting though - she's lacking in so many of the areas that recent party leaders were strong in.
 
Watching The One Show now.

Theresa May has zero charm or charisma but I imagine she's coming across quite well to people. It's crazy how uncomfortable she is in this kind of setting though - she's lacking in so many of the areas that recent party leaders were strong in.
Like I said a few pages ago, I've seen more charisma in a spoon. She reminds me of David Moyes. Fecking dour.
 
Corbyn has a similar problem, he shines meeting supporters but stick him in a mainstream media interview and the charisma vanishes. He's clearly miles ahead of May in terms of being an actual person though.
 
Like I said a few pages ago, I've seen more charisma in a spoon. She reminds me of David Moyes. Fecking dour.

Corbyn has a similar problem, he shines meeting supporters but stick him in a mainstream media interview and the charisma vanishes. He's clearly miles ahead of May in terms of being an actual person though.
Yeah... but it's a strong and stable lack of charisma rather than a corbynesque chaotic lack of charisma
 
Corbyn has a similar problem, he shines meeting supporters but stick him in a mainstream media interview and the charisma vanishes. He's clearly miles ahead of May in terms of being an actual person though.

Corbyn's problem is he can get a bit aggressive with interviewers. But he normally comes across well with the public.

It's weird that May has ruled out a TV debate but is going to do a TV town hall Q&A because she is probably even worse at the latter.
 
Corbyn's problem is he can get a bit aggressive with interviewers. But he normally comes across well with the public.

It's weird that May has ruled out a TV debate but is going to do a TV town hall Q&A because she is probably even worse at the latter.

It doesn't matter if she comes across a bit dull though; you don't want to hear raunchy jokes from your bank manager.

To win all the Tories have to do is avoid mistakes. The best way to ensure that is to do nothing at all. They can't fall if they're " already standing on the ground." Which, rhetorically speaking, is exactly what they're doing - a campaign built around empty slogans.

The only hope for Labour is if something big happens which can't be kicked into touch until the election is over. Maybe Donald will nuke Korea? Probably too much to hope for though.






























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