General Election 2017 | Cabinet reshuffle: Hunt re-appointed Health Secretary for record third time
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Good Burnham is a cnut. You could stick a red rosette on a pig and people would vote Labour in Manchester, which oddly enough was Andy's local CLP preferred choice.
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I'm going to repeat my post from earlier.
The governments own figures about the tax burden:
In the UK, in 2015-16, the bottom 10% of households had an average gross income of £10,992 and payed, on average, £4,662 {42.05%} in direct and indirect taxes.
In the UK, in 2015-16, the top 10% of households had an average gross income of £110,643 and payed, on average, £37,897 {34.25%} in direct and indirect taxes.
Financial year ending 2016
https://www.ons.gov.uk/peoplepopula...efitsonhouseholdincomefinancialyearending2014
You pay less tax than the poorest as a percentage of income. Raising rates for higher earners will balance things out a little.
Some of that stuff there is disgusting but I think I share the same view with the last one in the sense that if you can't afford to have kids then you shouldn't have them.
I am of the firm belief that you should aim to give your kids the best possible life while in your care at least so if you can't afford that then you're making their life and your own difficult. Sad as it is, that's life.
You are not earning a middle income
You have to look at turn out, it will be dismal
So having kids is the privilege of the well off now?
I don't really get the cheers for UKIP dying. They've simply joined the ruling party. I don't see how that's anything but a worse situation. If they died because the country has shifted left, that would be a different matter. They died because they've been cannibalised by the ruling party.
Come on that is ridiculous. Kids can grow up happy with no money whilst wealthy people can be terrible parents.
Scary to think these kind of people got elected, even if its just as councillors.
The charts show that to be entirely due to indirect taxes, and you also haven't included benefits in kind in your calculations - lowest decile receive 7.2k there compared to the highest decile's 5.4k. Biggest surprise there is how much of a high-income-bung that rail travel subsidy is.
Absolutely. They've won and a large swathe of the Tory party and their voter base will be delighted they no longer have to hide quite so many of their views behind creative language. Bizarrely, the opinions of the ruling party and the vast majority of the voting public, gleefully cheered on by a plethora of privileged and unpleasant fecks who are, literally, the establishment are still being positioned as anti establishment.
But, hey, we'll get rid of all those foreign bastards who are ruining our NHS by voting in a massive majority for a party ideologically opposed to the NHS.
That last sentence could define May's entire strategy for me. Since like she got into the job,
.Labour -----> UKIP ---- (through Brexit & being called racist by Labour) -----> Conservative
Burnham got almost double Anstee's votes in Trafford, which is Tory and where Anstee is the leader.
Under his leadership Trafford being the only council in Greater Manchester to reduce council tax too.
What's with the flags? Is that typical at these kind of events? Looks like a shitty commie throwback.
The last part was a joke.
What choice does he have? The Tories and press would have a field day if he sacked her.
Nope
Totally. What's these youngsters need is reduced life expectancy. That'll straighten the scruffy freeloaders out good and proper.
The Guardian reporting that Labour's big idea for the run in is to get McDonnell at the front of their campaign! Some bright minds on their strategy team.
I wonder if anyone will bring up his comment from a little while back when he said eventually the UK will have completely open borders.
I wonder if anyone will bring up his comment from a little while back when he said eventually the UK will have completely open borders.
I literally just stared at that tweet for 30 seconds trying to work out what "There's a May" meant.
How can any household in the UK live on less than £11K? That is incomprehensible after all I spend more than that on a car.
It is totally wrong that people are expected to live on that. I mean how do you do it? Whether you are single, live with a partner or have kids £11k is not enough to live on. £20K should be a minimum for any household in the UK and that would be a struggle.
Fecksake we are not a third world state working people deserve an honest living wage. The idea that more than 10% of the people who live in this country on next to nothing is just wrong.
Now I'm blathered here so people are probably going to rip me a new one for this post but I just can't believe that we expect people to live on this.
I live in Halton and although anecdotal, I said yesterday nobody was voting because I can see the polling station from my house. We voted Rotheram.
Yeah, I'm from Halton originally and will be moving back soon... though the timing might mean I'll be unable to vote in the GE. Disappointing but given our seat is the 22nd safest for Labour it should be the same this time around. Though with Halton and St Helens both voting leave feck knows anymore. Combining the Tory and UKIP votes from last GE would still put the Tories 14,000 votes behind.
Oh my god Damien's a scouser too.
No ones talking about it because its conspiracy theory nonsense that started on fake news site The Canary.
For a couple with one child where total earned income was £11k, their benefits entitlement would take their income to £20k.
Well, isn't a full government pensions around £8k. I imagine lots of households live off of that
£8k a year with no dependents, no mortgage (paid off or housing benefits), it is doable. Not much of a life though.
Penny in every pound I assume? So baseline 1% rise? I'd be happy enough to pay it if I was sure where it was going.
Yeah, think a lot of people would.
That is always the Lib Dems go to . A penny on income tax.
I heard Norman Lamb on the radio this morning. Terribly sensible fellow.
This is a very salient point, particularly in an era of such a high tax burden and rising living costs. People want to have certainty with regards to their taxes, identifiable results. Ending up in the quagmire of general NHS spending does not instil that level of confidence.
Actually, I do keep an eye on The Canary. They were late to report on it. See my post from last Tuesday, when an MP wrote a letter about it. Look at the evidence.