Just been to vote in the local elections, outside the polling station there where kids dressed in Karate Suits, I can only assume they are doing it to protest the unfortunately large UKIP vote in the area, by demonstrating how foreign cultures have had a great influence on our society, for instance the introduction of the noble sport of Karate……… either that or they use the school for weekly Karate classes, I like to think its the former.
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I got talking to a 95-year old Greek man who lives in London outside mine. He said he'd just retired today and was celebrating by going on a piss-up.
Frustrating that my first vote is a choice between two conservative candidates in a local council election.
Early results tonight suggesting...Bad.
It's basically a Tory wave. UKIP and Labour drowning.
Looking like this is the end for UKIP, they can take off their suits and join the BNP on the fringe racist corner.
sigh, the problem with England is its full of monumental idiots.
Barry Gardiner is doing an admirable job of the impossible here.
I guess 1983 is changing from horror scenario to "pretty optimistic".
Its 40% of everything over 750000, most estates will pay an effective rate well under that %
New Conservative slogan: 'Please vote for the Prime Minister who's so useless that she hides from the public like the Elephant Man before he was hospitalised'.
Corporation tax is payed by the consumer. However as it is a tax on profit so competition means a company can't price in corporation tax into their prices.
Inheritance tax is as fair a tax as they come. The inheritor gets a massive sum of money and assets for doing feck all. Abolishing that whilst work is taxed a perfect illustration of entrenched wealth
This election is going to be a demolition.
This
Think the mayor elections are the big ones, i cant see the rest of the results having much relevance.
One to the tories on that so far. Manchester has to be Burnham
One to the tories on that so far. Manchester has to be Burnham
You have to turn past my house to access a school with a polling station in. If there was a car every 15minutes after 4pm I'd be surprised.
My Mum's been working with a large group of Labour voters in the North West to target marginal areas like Weaver Vale etc, but the party decided to give the candidacy to a more experienced Mike Amesbury who I believe didn't get his Manchester first pick, as opposed to a young local lady whose been doing great things and has a lot of local support. The group of 30+ who had planned to assist in Weaver Vale gave up on it and are focusing their attention on Crewe where they think they have a chance where a similar lady has been given the candidacy. I think Weaver Vale was Conservative by 800 votes out of 25,000 cast at the last GE.
The old lady is much more left leaning than I so I try and leave her to it but I admire her and her groups optimism and work ethic whilst many other Labour voters sit there with their head in their hands doing feck all about this mess.
My Mum's been working with a large group of Labour voters in the North West to target marginal areas like Weaver Vale etc, but the party decided to give the candidacy to a more experienced Mike Amesbury who I believe didn't get his Manchester first pick, as opposed to a young local lady whose been doing great things and has a lot of local support. The group of 30+ who had planned to assist in Weaver Vale gave up on it and are focusing their attention on Crewe where they think they have a chance where a similar lady has been given the candidacy. I think Weaver Vale was Conservative by 800 votes out of 25,000 cast at the last GE.
The old lady is much more left leaning than I so I try and leave her to it but I admire her and her groups optimism and work ethic whilst many other Labour voters sit there with their head in their hands doing feck all about this mess.
This election is going to be a massacre. 
Look at this man
I'd be amazed if anyone beats Burnham in Manchester. I would have voted for him myself but recently moved house and didn't get registered in time.
Couldn't help but chuckle when I saw UKIP's candidate, an orthodox Jew called Shneur Odze.
^ Hopefully Manchester's experience with elected mayors goes better than London's.
@ThierryHenry - Do you think Creasy will lose any votes in response to the somewhat controversial cycling scheme being created there? Not enough to overhaul such a majority of course, but it seems to be a very marmite issue in those parts of London where it is being introduced.
@ThierryHenry - Do you think Creasy will lose any votes in response to the somewhat controversial cycling scheme being created there? Not enough to overhaul such a majority of course, but it seems to be a very marmite issue in those parts of London where it is being introduced.
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I can understand, almost, voting Tory at national level (safer with economy etc. etc.), but at local level? Do these people not realise what will happen to social care and healthcare in their respective regions? Madness. Turkeys voting for Christmas.
I've definitely been less happy since I cared about politics. It's the recurring realisation that most of the country has very different views that hurts.
This election is going to be a massacre.
https://yougov.co.uk/news/2017/05/01/why-local-elections-are-not-useful-indicators-nati/
I really wouldn't use the council elections as any kind of barometer, the closeness of the two votes can only feck things over further.
The trend away from UKIP is likely to be repeated in the general which is a good thing.
For who?
This. Used to think I was living in a very progressive open country. Last 18 months has been a shock to the system. Now realise we are no different from the Yanks I used to make fun of.
But that's what everyone who voted Brexit did.
It is precisely because healthcare it is a local issue that Labour's reputation is not what it was. Be it hospital closures or that of A&E or maternity units, the party was no angel. Throw in PFI and the only two ruling factions can be doubted with equal measure. Labour is not this cuddly, caring politics that so many would suggest it to be.
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The national discourse. Id rather not have their kind spreading hate and whipping up their voter base further. Okay it'll help the tories but they're winning either way.
Those figures a bit out in reality, from the governments own figures about the tax burden:
In the UK, in 2015-16, the bottom 10% of households had an average gross income of £10,992 and payed, on average, £4,662 {42.05%} in direct and indirect taxes.
In the UK, in 2015-16, the top 10% of households had an average gross income of £110,643 and payed, on average, £37,897 {34.25%} in direct and indirect taxes.
Financial year ending 2016
https://www.ons.gov.uk/peoplepopula...efitsonhouseholdincomefinancialyearending2014
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Not sure when the Tpries have taken the party over because they're doing those things themselves.
Prepare for more of this in June, no way he's ceding control of the party without fecking it over a little bit more first. "Some people were talking about us falling to 120 seats" etc.
The Government is pushing for the burke ban too now? I'd have expected even Corbyn to make more out of that one.
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You mean Burka?
Without doubt. It was a hugely unpopular change, has funnelled traffic through the centre of Walthamstow solely onto two main (already busy) roads, while businesses in the cycling-friendly zones have been hit as drivers can no longer park near their shops. There have been multiple protests at the town hall about it, though I know nothing of their size. Labour rule the council so any backlash would obviously be directed at them and Stella. My Dad won't be voting for her due to a combination of that + Corbyn.
That said, she's very popular, visible and an excellent local MP. I'd assume she won't maintain the ludicrously high vote share achieved in 2015, but we'd have to be talking apocalypse scenarios for the Labour Party before they're losing seats like Walthamstow.
Though I'm actually voting in Vauxhall this time. Will want to learn more about the Lib Dem candidate first, but will enjoy a Brexit-inspired vote against Kate Hoey.
You've misunderstood what I'm saying slightly I think
Where does that 55% tax figure come from? For each penny earned above £150k...
45% is taxed as income tax
2% is taxed as employee national contribution
13.8% is taxed as employer national contribution...
You can just add those three figures together to get 60% tax, but that's not really the right way to do it.
https://listentotaxman.com/150000?
https://listentotaxman.com/250000?
Paying someone an extra £100k (after the £150k threshold) costs a total of £113k for the employer. Take home pay from that is an extra £53k, which is only 53.4% of the £113k figure.
i.e. the highest earners pay a 53.4% tax on the cost of their employment above the highest threshold. (I was 1.6% out)
Edit - but the point is.... we already charge income to high heaven, and the economy works fine. We already charge inheritance tax to high heaven, and the economy works fine (although I think IHT is too high, and too few pay it)
So what is this crusade against it about? (Not from you). What are these mythical downsides?
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