Lib Dems have some good ammunition in Vauxhall
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The Guardian who i thought were extremely anti-nuclear seem to have decided a Corbyn attack peice was the better route than questioning policy. Surprise
Another new poll today has Tories on 48%. Do these people not realise that, even though they might go through with brexit, they will also gut the NHS? Insane.
Theresa May is being kept hidden away again. Here comes Kuenssberg!
Like a record, baby...
Like a record, baby...
May is currently more trusted than Corbyn to run the NHS.
We won't have a NHS IMO. 4 years of May will see the end of that.
Yeah but Brexit, nukes n' shit.
The one ironic thing about the older generations keeping the tories in, is it'
I think people do care, but it doesn't feel real for most people. This is what my tory friend said to me regarding the NHS:
My NHS Doctor friend though just says he wants to feck of to New Zealand because this is impossible
For some reason, NHS cuts just aren't resonating with people.
I think people do care, but it doesn't feel real for most people. This is what my tory friend said to me regarding the NHS:
My NHS Doctor friend though just says he wants to feck of to New Zealand because this is impossible
Indeed, great excuse for them to finally get rid of the NHS. Brexit, they'll then turn it around and say they were forced into doing it.
Googled this just out of interest but every poll seems to be different, telegraph had one 2 days ago with a very slight lead to Corbyn 2%.
Odd as all the historic ones seem to be all over the place as well. Spectator had one giving it to Cameron, Labourlist Milliband.
I reckon the UKs independent nuclear deterrent is approximately completely meaningless. We are too small geographically to avoid being obliterated if anything kicks off. Let alone that we want to be thinking about starting it.
Good issue for working Corbyn over though.
Good issue for working Corbyn over though.
Just give a fecking referendum on it. That's what Cameron would do.
Arrange a Children in Need style fundraiser and all the weird folk who salivate over the country's nuclear codpiece can pay for it.Just give a fecking referendum on it. That's what Cameron would do.
What's happened to Nuttall? Is he still locked in that room? Are journalists still waiting outside? I need to know.
Just give a fecking referendum on it. That's what Cameron would do.
Any longer in power and Cameron would've started having referendums on whether we should have referendums on stuff.
Labour's manifesto is due to be released around the 15th May. The IFS normally release their analysis of the manifestos about two weeks after release, which Labour will be relying on to support its economic claims.
To be fair, the New Zelanders had two referendums (including one which ranked preference using AV) on whether the change their fecking flag.
After many months of deliberation, they chose not to.
Rather than us having too many referendums, I actually think we didn't have enough.
AV Referendum
Rather than AV vs FPTP it should have been
1) AV vs FPTP vs STV followed by
2) the top two choices facing off.
Scottish Independence Referendum.
Rather than Independence vs Not, it should have been;
1) Devo Max vs Status Quo vs Full Unionisation
2) the top two choices facing off (or you know, us AV to combine this into one referendum)
3) New Choice vs Independance.
EU Referendum
Rather than Brexit vs Not, it should have been;
1) Brexit vs Not
2) Brexit focusing on closing borders and losing the single market OR focusing on keeping single market but gaining some independence from EU law and can negotiate our own trade deals (Norway model)
3) Brexit vs New model.
as things stand, the majority of people may not want "brexit at any cost". We are relying on our government to provide the brexit the majority want, which is unlikely to happen.
I think Corbyn came across really well on Marr. Big improvement!
Sarcasm?
Not sure this will add many votes to Labour's cause tbh...
Conservative response to the Communist Party not contesting seats to back Corbyn’s Labour
Responding Amanda Milling MP, member of the Business, Energy and Industrial Strategy Select Committee said:
“Let this sink in: Jeremy Corbyn has been endorsed today by a party who want to close down businesses, leave the protection of NATO and hike up taxes to a level never seen before in this country.
“At this election every vote is going to count. Unless people get out there and vote for Theresa May and their local Conservative candidate, this man will be our Prime Minister in a little over 6 weeks – propped up by the Lib Dems and SNP in a coalition of chaos.”
ENDS
Conservative response to the Communist Party not contesting seats to back Corbyn’s Labour
Responding Amanda Milling MP, member of the Business, Energy and Industrial Strategy Select Committee said:
“Let this sink in: Jeremy Corbyn has been endorsed today by a party who want to close down businesses, leave the protection of NATO and hike up taxes to a level never seen before in this country.
“At this election every vote is going to count. Unless people get out there and vote for Theresa May and their local Conservative candidate, this man will be our Prime Minister in a little over 6 weeks – propped up by the Lib Dems and SNP in a coalition of chaos.”
ENDS
The more they say coalition of chaos, the more fun it sounds.
I'm going to vote for old Jezza. He's a bit quiet, he'll probably lose, but he's the best this country can offer in terms of a leader. This is our Bernie Sanders moment. The Yanks fecked it up, lets not follow suit. May is hell bent on ripping up everything that remains great about Britain (NHS for example), lets deny her the opportunity. Life can go on post Brexit, but how we vote with decide if it's a fair life for everyone, or just for the super wealthy.
The whole point of a deterrent is to stop things kicking off - MAD?!
Not surprised at all about Blair encouraging people to cote Tory.This is a man that during one of his speeches at the Labour party conference welcomed Tories into the party
https://skwawkbox.org/2017/04/22/if...are-tories-spreading-fakenews-about-him-ge17/
Awful website aside, and the theory the Tories are actually scared, this is pretty disgusting. Not surprising in this day and age however.
Awful website aside, and the theory the Tories are actually scared, this is pretty disgusting. Not surprising in this day and age however.
I've been pretty jovial in this thread, playing up the policies of the Lib Dems and such.
But, being realistic for a moment.
And like 1979, you can fully expect it to take 20 years for Labour to get back in.
Can anyone think of any decent preparations for the scenario?
But, being realistic for a moment.
- The Conservatives are going to win this by an absolute landslide.
- They are then going to redraw the boundaries making it harder in future for opposition in future.
- Maybe they will even "reform" the House of Lords making it even easier for themselves.
And like 1979, you can fully expect it to take 20 years for Labour to get back in.
Can anyone think of any decent preparations for the scenario?
EmigrateI've been pretty jovial in this thread, playing up the policies of the Lib Dems and such.
But, being realistic for a moment.
There is a good chance that the electoral map will look not unlike it did in 1979
- The Conservatives are going to win this by an absolute landslide.
- They are then going to redraw the boundaries making it harder in future for opposition in future.
- Maybe they will even "reform" the House of Lords making it even easier for themselves.
And like 1979, you can fully expect it to take 20 years for Labour to get back in.
Can anyone think of any decent preparations for the scenario?
The boundary changes are sickening, clearly seat stealing from Labour by the Tories. Our last hope is a PR/AV alliance between the centre/left parties.
There isn't much in that. She was probably using a tweet sent to her. If they were going spread fake news surely they could be a little less small time than that! What impact do you think that tweet would have?
The last round of boundary changes turned my constituency into safe Labour from safe Conservative previously. Swings and roundabouts.
It strengthens the narrative they have created about Corbyn. It is quite small time, but a lot of the general public will engage more with stuff like this than more sophisticated measures.
What do you mean preparations? Like tinned goods and such?I've been pretty jovial in this thread, playing up the policies of the Lib Dems and such.
But, being realistic for a moment.
There is a good chance that the electoral map will look not unlike it did in 1979
- The Conservatives are going to win this by an absolute landslide.
- They are then going to redraw the boundaries making it harder in future for opposition in future.
- Maybe they will even "reform" the House of Lords making it even easier for themselves.
And like 1979, you can fully expect it to take 20 years for Labour to get back in.
Can anyone think of any decent preparations for the scenario?
It's not completely meaningless, it ensures that whatever happens with the US, we always have a line of last resort. Just as a speculative example, say a fecking nutcase gets elected in America who has (picking a random scenario out of my head) colluded with Russia to get elected, and who decides in the face of Russian threats to Europe that the US is going to sit this one out. Having a nuclear deterrant means that no matter who else in the world goes batshit crazy we always have the fallback position of 'don't feck with us or we both die'.
The world is getting more and more dangerous, not from random dickheads with exploding backpacks, but from heavyweight nation-states starting to stretch their muscles again. This is absolutely the last possible time to start talking about unilateral disarmament. The world could get very scary over the next decade.
Labour and PC seem to have royally fecked up all of the Welsh budgets tbf. So the Tories get voted in to sort it out I guess, then are roundly hated and the cycle repeats itself ad infinitum.
Incredible. Notable that it's not just by a seat or two either...they look quite comfortable there. Between this and Scotland...what the feck is happening.
EU supported Wales, they all voted Brexit. So it's no real shock to see them vote for Tories given they have a suicidal voting nature.
Tinned goods, health insurance (like £100 pcm for the family. Horrible, but pretty much the same as car insurance), firearms...