I voted at 4pm on the dot too, was expecting a queue of mums with kids. Disappointed by the lack of people tbh.
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I voted at 4pm on the dot too, was expecting a queue of mums with kids. Disappointed by the lack of people tbh.
Even the weather is a fecking Tory.
What are you doing in England? 29 degrees here and not a cloud in the sky!
Voted about 4ish just got back more officials sat on the chairs then voters.
I'm not in England, do you think I've gone mental or something?
Although I wasn't worshiping the sun so much a couple of hours ago when we went and played football in it. Damn that was tough..
Agreed about Cameron. I was gutted to see him go. A double whammy with brexit. Worst day in politics history for me.
You might be right on negotiating front. I just think it's a lot of leaders versus one for the UK so whilst it is a negotiation, its not an easy one. A case could be made on either front. The problem is Corbyn isnt the sharpest either. Poor education, bad memory recall for key numbers to policies. A nice guy maybe, but competence is also essential for respect.
Done and cheers alto.
I'm heading to vote soon, get in before the work traffic. Most of the older crowd were probably in before lunch!
Cheers
Just a word - a few of you might want to edit your entries. The first question is asking for the Tory MAJORITY and not the amount of seats they will win. I think there's 4 or 5 of you who might not have realised that. Have until 5pm: https://goo.gl/forms/0WwA2vmzuP7qoAYh1
It's standard practice for the more diligent (or marginal) MP's. Throughout the campaign they will ask people who they're voting for. The people who are voting for your party then have their polling number taken down. They will then have all polling stations manned by staff and volunteers who will ask everyone for their polling number. At say 6pm of the evening everyone that hasn't yet voted (according to the polling numbers provided) who said they would vote for your party will get a phone-call or knock at the door asking whether they've voted and if not asking when they are and if they need any help getting to the polling station.
It's literally just someone doing their job and during the last few elections the harshest words have been "I don't feel comfortable giving you that information", which is naturally accepted.
This is an isolated incident of course but after my posts yesterday about the sheer level of vitriol aimed at non-Labour voters by the left during this election campaign it doesn't surprise me one bit. The MP in question has now instructed all "tellers" in her constituency to remove anything that would indicate they are Tory supporters.
A pretty sad state of affairs if you ask me.
Sorry to be a pain but could you tell us which of us have screwed up? You have to do the whole form again otherwise, it doesn't just let you change your answer.
I'm assuming no-one thinks they're going to get a 200-300 seat majority.
Yes I know Cameron called the referendum. A gamble on his part that seemed highly unlikely to result in exit. It was probably necessary to pull the vote over the line for him. I would have close to bet my house on remaining. I think this and to aid the election win was why the vote was sanctioned.
Regarding momentum yes, Tories were killing it in every poll. Labour were being slated to the ground. It looked like the perfect time for a strong majority and to be able to brush off arguments of her being unelected. Basically it was purely to strengthen Brexit negotiations and give that extra bit of time to ensure all could be delivered and followed though.
Arrogance on her part to assume she'd steam an election uncontested. In this day and age a uncontested election is a pipe dream. Put simply if Trump has a chance anyone does and hence Corbyn has managed to turn the tide more than seemed imaginable, similar to the Brexit hype/ lies/ protest votes resulting in the exit outcome.
Regarding the voting my assumption is on balance many of the brexiters are likely to be labour supporters. Yes a few racist/nimby conservatives, but on balance mostly lower class with nothing to lose.
These same people will vote Labour because that is all they understand despite the fact that this election has been started to help strengthen the negotiating position which is what they wanted. Voting Labour will damage the brexit negotiations however you look at it, because a) there just isn't enough Labour support so any mandate will be a weak one, b) they are too unrealistic in their approach. It's quite obvious we can't have our cake and eat it, so focusing on free trade is unlikely to occur with any level of control over movement or labour and c) the process starts again, so momentum already gained is lost, i.e. As I said the whole point of the election.
@AlvaroMaestreSorry to be a pain but could you tell us which of us have screwed up? You have to do the whole form again otherwise, it doesn't just let you change your answer.
I'm assuming no-one thinks they're going to get a 200-300 seat majority.
@Sylar
@Zarlak
@I_Love_Dong (
)@Zebs
@fishfingers15
@Jippy
The rest are fine it looks like.
I hope they make that illegal.
Obviously, obviously, obviously I'm not happy your Mrs was attacked.
But that should be illegal.
Canvassing should be illegal?
Ah, yep, will edit, cheers.
Does sound very odd, i wouldn't provide that information to someone. Especially now i know it helps them canvass.
Also i thought you weren't allowed any political flyers, rosettes or anything identifying political party support at the polling station?
Also i thought you weren't allowed any political flyers, rosettes or anything identifying political party support at the polling station?
Well, hung parliament you say?
Canvassing is fine
Taking people's details down, checking to see if they have voted, and if not, going round their house to "ask nicely that they please vote like they said they would", seems very sketchy
How many... "not strong" people would just say "yes I'm voting for you", "yes here is my poll card number," "yes I'll go vote now".
Seems wrong
Don't underestimate the game! My guess is Conservatives are going full attack to see what Brexit they could get. This keeps the brexiters happy, remember that was the vote. Once those negotiations happen then either a) a brexit deal actually looks quite good so would actually make even remainders happy or b) it looks shockingly bad, at which point no one could begrudge them for pulling out.
It's as win win as you can get in their position.
It's getting out the vote and it helps left parties because their vote is historically lower propensity. It's been going on for decades, if our politics is now so mean spirited that you can't do that kind of thing then it's a pretty shocking state of affairs.
@AlvaroMaestre
@Sylar
@Zarlak
@I_Love_Dong (
@Zebs
@fishfingers15
@Jippy
The rest are fine it looks like.
Cheers mate.
Just seems wrong. I half knew this happened, but it seems wrong.
If people aren't going to vote for you under their own volition, maybe they don't want to vote for you.
This is frustratingly true, which leaves me as a centrist disappointed, but still taking an economic stance to support Conservatives as truly believe they are better at getting and winning business and controlling spiralling costs and interest payments. I e. Conservatives are more like CEOs, Labour are more like the Secretary in charge of the Xmas budget, will always look for a way to squeeze a few more budgets just to make everyone at the party happy, but then wonders why there is no Xmas party the next year!
In my reading of things that would pretty much guarantee no deal. No one could begrudge them for pulling out, but that changes nothing about the consequences of no deal for the UK, for which they will have to take responsibility.
It's a lose-lose, if anything.
I've been a teller and I always wore my rosette. It's a very long-standing way of identifying who's not voted, and no-one's obliged to give any info to the tellers - although a lot of people seem to think it's something official.
Used to be that the Tory and Labour ones wouldn't help each other, now they often sit side by side and share info!
The lose lose would be down to those who voted exit. No one else can shoulder that blame. Even Cameron who took a gamble by having the vote was only doing what the will of the people were pressing for. There becomes a time these things can't be ignored.
I see it more as Labour are the guys who've been running a firm for decades having come up from the shop floor. They know what is needed lower down in the business, and that just focusing on profit alone would ruin productivity. The Tories are the shiny consultant brought in to maximize profits, who fires the most expensive workers and hires cheap replacements (while cutting all the worker facilities) and then then can't work out why the company starts performing badly.
Do you have to stay outside or is just a myth you're not allowed to display them?
Its an odd thing but sharing data with strangers feels wrong
@AlvaroMaestre
@Sylar
@Zarlak
@I_Love_Dong (
@Zebs
@fishfingers15
@Jippy
The rest are fine it looks like.
Corrected
The truth is probably somewhere in the middle! Inefficiencies will often be developed in the path for efficiencies. I've seen the same in many businesses.
The problem is if you focus too much on the shop floor you try to make too many people happy and unfortunately there are just too many mouths to feed so you empty the slush fund pretty quickly and go down together like the titanic.
27. Been as apathetic as possible to politics until the last two years or so.
First time voting because I've never paid much attention before. My constituency has been a Labour seat going as far back as records started and it'll always be a Labour seat so I never really thought it matter that much before.
Corbyn seems alright to me, certainly one of very few politicians I can stand to listen to, he's a move away from a Blairite Labour and I believe he's had a rough deal in the media because he doesn't represent the 1%. I agree with some of the stuff he's put forward, certainly for us younger folk (albeit maybe at 27 I don't count as younger anymore) for the Labour party so that's part of the reason I voted for him but honestly, it's my huge dislike and distaste for Theresa May and the Tory party that got me out there voting. I don't want another 5 years of them and Labour have the only chance of defeating them.
I didn't know too much about the electoral system other than it's FPTP. And even though, I'm not truly sure what that means and whether it's better than proportional representation or not.
I'm not too sure what I expected. I knew there'd be a section for voting on your local MP but somehow I expected there to be the main section about which party you were voting for full stop to lead the country. Just a surprise that's all. I'd read about the local MP's and what they wanted to do so I was always going to vote the way I did but I suppose you never know what you can expect if you've never done it before.
As an aside, my first actual vote was in the referendum last year where I voted to remain.
As for how I'd like it to be, I'm not well versed enough to know which the best system is for our country. First past the post, proportional, etc. Would/will do more research on it all. I'm glad we still use paper and a pen/pencil so that technically they can't hack our votes, albeit they could just rub out the pencil and cross something else. I certainly wouldn't have online voting because that'd be so easy to corrupt but that would probably be how you get young people to vote more.
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For those worried about whether the youth are turning out... it seems alot of them are voting from their university polling booths?
Competition closed - will post link to spreadsheet once I duplicate entries.
EDIT - I tell a lie, it was North.
The youth should just hang outside the polling areas, scare the old folk off with their noisy music
Competition Entries
Competition entries: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1AsleAZfWsAM1kCuW7_gtJPpGCWBWX6DofeoVS5_Ea_w/edit?usp=sharing
I also have a hardcopy saved in case I have fecked up and let you lot edit it.
I also have a hardcopy saved in case I have fecked up and let you lot edit it.
Me too. Weather has gone nice now.
They should put that info on the polling card or something. Might reduce the hostility towards them.
Have you not copied me over from the original survey?