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Disillusionment man. If the Tories predictably win I can see Labour reverting back to their Blairite ways. That'll probably be the start of my new political apathy
Edit: what @DiseaseOfTheAge said. Unless I move to Brighton that is.
These local council cuts are really hitting home:
I was expecting a picture of a load of EDF thinking they were marching to confront a congregation of Polish people.
Disillusionment man. If the Tories predictably win I can see Labour reverting back to their Blairite ways. That'll probably be the start of my new political apathy
Edit: what @DiseaseOfTheAge said. Unless I move to Brighton that is.
A Blairite's still better than a Tory. Even if only just.
Everyone knows Dogs would vote Labour. Your dog hates you Ruth
Vote for Wilson
She'd better hope it doesn't resemble a fox.
I can't in good conscience be able to vote for a faction in the party that attempted to undermine the leader from the get go, creating this notion of him being unelectable.
Then there's the Iraq war connection which is very personal to me.
Its pretty much Labour as they are now or bust. Perhaps a little naive or bitter but I'm done holding my nose everytime I vote.
So I'm torn between who to vote for this afternoon. I recently moved constituencies and I know nothing about my Labour candidate, but his Twitter paints a decent picture. The SNP candidate however is already our MP and according to folk who have lived here a while he gets involved in a lot of local events (which is important to me, nothing worse than a politician who just sits about and takes a paycheck).
If it was a straight choice between leaders then I'd vote Labour, but since it's for a local candidate I'm stumped... It was a 30% swing in the SNPs favour last election but before that it was a Labour stronghold so it wouldn't be a wasted vote either way (I hope).
If it was a straight choice between leaders then I'd vote Labour, but since it's for a local candidate I'm stumped... It was a 30% swing in the SNPs favour last election but before that it was a Labour stronghold so it wouldn't be a wasted vote either way (I hope).
I think you fail to understand game theory! You go in full guns blazing and then see what comes out of it. There is always the option to retrench. If you go in half hearted then the will of the people will not be considered at all. So any brexit voter supporting labour are double idiots.
What constituency is it? If it was a big swing from Labour to SNP last time then I'd presume there's no chance of the Tories taking it, in which case you can vote for whoever you want in good conscience. If there is a chance of a Tory win, probably best to stick SNP. Plus a good local MP is always handy.
That's all good and dandy. But your reasoning earlier was to vote Tories because May is a woman and she'll get a good Brexit deal because she'll nag. That is absurd. May from my perspective is a terrible leader, was a terrible home secretary and will get us a terrible deal and will then blame it on the EU. I'm sure you'll disagree, that's politics.
@Snowjoe, now is your time to shine.Just checked BBC Election Latest and all I see is photos of dogs...
And you think a prime minister who can't be arsed to turn up to election debates is going to be the flag bearer for the 'will of the people' ?
No, you go in with a diplomatic approach that you hope will work for the country as a whole while sustaining a decent relationship with our nearest neighbours.
My knowledge of game theory is limited and rusted, I do think I fail to understand your point though, please elaborate? How does accidentally leaving the EU constitute going in guns blazing?
I'm not arguing about brexit (there's another thread about it, and it's been discussed extensively), I just pointed out that the Tory leadership at the time officially didn't want brexit, yet brought it about, and that that surely isn't 'strong and stable'.
Would be a vast improvement on Corbyn and May.
Should have taken mine to the polling station earlier but she's on holiday!
Is this a time to mention Cinas Mum?
Setting myself up for a Tory win. This will not be good news for the country but it will in the long run be very damaging to the conservatives. Just hope we get a much better than expected result and grow from there .Because no doubt there will be a lot of anger with this current government in the coming years.
Is it ever not?
Glenrothes, it's a shame because I miss the alien abductions that used to happen on top of the old Tesco car park near where I used to live and now have to settle for a constituency that contains more roundabouts than people.
True enough, but I also don't really want to vote SNP for what they've done to colleges and schools in this country. For all their positives, education is certainly not one of them. I'm probably going to be voting for the person not the party this election.
They'll just find another distraction, and the press will back them up with it. Five years from now they'll be re-elected on a platform to stop Russian hackers from taking away our Facebooks and Twitterings.
Wonder what the outcome will be, as if we didn't already know, of the next instalment in the UK of "Turkeys voting for Xmas".
This is pretty much what I'm hoping for - a best case scenario of a narrow Tory majority, followed by years of utter disarray within the Tory party leading to permanent damage within the party ranks.
The trouble is the country will pay a price for it too.
Ah the Milton Keynes of the north.
Think I'm going to be reading up on emotion-based voting after tonight.
whats emotion based voting and how is is it effecting this election?
The press will forgive anything the Tories do for dropping Leveson and this country will have given 'feck the vulnerable, I'm alright' their seal of approval twice in the space of a few years, having bought the 'Johnny Foreigner' EU lies in between. I wouldn't be holding your breath for anything after the first sentence of this.
People voting emotionally - ie, voting because of a person instead of policies, and perhaps for how something makes them feel as opposed to how it'll genuinely affect them.
Yeah pretty much that, the Leave campaign used it to strong effect during the referendum (Farage in the most grotesque of ways) and Corbyn achieves similar (though the effect differs across the age spectrum it seems). It's a powerful driver by the looks of it.
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hmm.. not feeling good now.
hmm.. not feeling good now.
Just saw this
Just saw this
Their poor kids. Oh well.