General Election 2017 | Cabinet reshuffle: Hunt re-appointed Health Secretary for record third time

How do you intend to vote in the 2017 General Election if eligible?

  • Conservatives

    Votes: 80 14.5%

  • Labour

    Votes: 322 58.4%

  • Lib Dems

    Votes: 57 10.3%

  • Green

    Votes: 20 3.6%

  • SNP

    Votes: 13 2.4%

  • UKIP

    Votes: 29 5.3%

  • Independent

    Votes: 3 0.5%

  • Plaid Cymru

    Votes: 2 0.4%

  • Sinn Fein

    Votes: 11 2.0%

  • Other (UUP, DUP, BNP, and anyone else I have forgotten)

    Votes: 14 2.5%
  • Total voters
    551
  • Poll closed .
NinjaFletch said:
Whether it was right for Dwazza to search or not the real take home message is if you want anonymity on the internet then it helps to keep your alias separate from sites where you might use your real-name.

It's the wikipedia vandalism that crosses the line though :nono:
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Anyone can search a username. Apparently anyone can edit a Wikipedia page, too. I've never done it, so wouldn't know.
 
Dwazza said:
Yep. It is. I already know where you're going to live when you get here. Sweet Dreams, Zarls. :devil:
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Oh Mr Dwazza, I've been expecting you.

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Also I've decided on Kelowna.
 
DiseaseOfTheAge said:
Do you have an 'image' of what their aims would be, in a post-independence position?
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Initially it'd be for stability. Ie, making sure they implement their preferred currency option, securing entry into the EU or some kind of deal if they don't want straight entry, and making a smooth transition between UK governance and Scottish governance...which is already partly there in regards to healthcare/education/policing etc, but not yet for things like national security.

Long-term, you'd see several different visions. I'd imagine the predominant one would be of the sort of Nordic model, a relatively small but flourishing social democracy. Again though, you'll have a lot of different visions...some will want strong ties with the EU, while others may start to advocate being outside the EU altogether. I wouldn't be surprised if there's not some frustration at some point though, especially from the more socialist elements of the party who may start to feel marginalised if things don't go their way.
 
Smart decision by May to call for the general. The Tories are way ahead in the opinion polls. They are going to wallop Labour and the Lib Dems. She'll be in a stronger position after the elections while bargaining with the MPs in her own party who want a hard Brexit. Labour will then have no option but to ask Corbyn to step down as leader and consolidate behind a new leader.

What are the possibilities of a pre-poll Lab-Lib coalition?
 
Nikhil said:
Smart decision by May to call for the general. The Tories are way ahead in the opinion polls. They are going to wallop Labour and the Lib Dems. She'll be in a stronger position after the elections while bargaining with the MPs in her own party who want a hard Brexit. Labour will then have no option but to ask Corbyn to step down as leader and consolidate behind a new leader.

What are the possibilities of a pre-poll Lab-Lib coalition?
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Incredibly unlikely. I'm pretty sure Farron's ruled out a coalition with Labour but would be willing to go into one with the Tories in order to neuter Brexit. Not to mention that Corbyn's not going to want to be seen as a sell-out by siding with the party who sided alongside the Tories during the coalition...a significant element of his base don't seem to see the Lib Dems in an even remotely positive light, although I'd imagine that's partly anecdotal.
 
Brenda has cheered me up. That's exactly the attitude we need isn't it?

When she can be bothered to vote, it's probably fecking Tory.

#GoJezza
 
Dwazza said:
Anyone can search a username. Apparently anyone can edit a Wikipedia page, too. I've never done it, so wouldn't know.
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childishly when i was a bit merry one day i edited Nick Caves Wikipedia to contain a love story about him and mate, who was obsessed with him.....it was funny for a few minutes .......
 
Dwazza said:
Anyone can search a username. Apparently anyone can edit a Wikipedia page, too. I've never done it, so wouldn't know.
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Indeed. Apparently I've been quoted by the MEN before and some poor person in Australia who's picked the same username as me on Steam for some reason will be awfully confused the next time I post something controversial on here.

Before you start, I've already chided myself for bullying me.
 
Nikhil said:
Smart decision by May to call for the general. The Tories are way ahead in the opinion polls. They are going to wallop Labour and the Lib Dems. She'll be in a stronger position after the elections while bargaining with the MPs in her own party who want a hard Brexit. Labour will then have no option but to ask Corbyn to step down as leader and consolidate behind a new leader.

What are the possibilities of a pre-poll Lab-Lib coalition?
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Lib dems have only made a 1% gain from the last general election where they got less votes then UKIP, so even if you put them and labour together i can't see them beating the torys.
 
NinjaFletch said:
Indeed. Apparently I've been quoted by the MEN before and some poor person in Australia who's picked the same username as me on Steam for some reason will be awfully confused the next time I post something controversial on here.

Before you start, I've already chided myself for bullying me.
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Were there any nunchuks involved? I hope there were nunchuks.
 
DiseaseOfTheAge said:
Most people I know who vote SNP would call them socialist. I suspect that is true for a lot of the younger generation.
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There's just nothing much to back it up with.

More broadly, if you look across europe it tends to be the green left that's gaining rather than the old class based left (though in europe I believe greens tend to be more moderate than ours). I even think the movement that brought Corbyn into leadership was more of this mold, they basically wanted a Caroline Lucas (who would actually have been a far more effective choice) and Corbyn ticked a lot of the boxes.
 
712 said:
Isn't adding stuff to wiki how wiki works though? So long as it's true, of course, which it seems to be.

I may be wrong mind, I know feck all about it.
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your meant to add references to back up what you write though you can still add stuff even if you don't, though i think they have got stricter in the past few years.... probably cos of prats like me adding nonsense.
Silva said:
You need a citation and unfortunately Nytrams friend did not document the bumming.
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well it was a lass who i wrote it about.... and she wasn't the best at bumming, and i read on Nick Caves Wikipedia that he doesn't like that kind of love making experience
Dwazza said:
No one ever documents the bumming. :(
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erm i believe their is quite a lot of porn that would challenge this statement
 
Actually the real takeaway is before you start aggressively posting your divisive, poorly argued political and personal views, make sure you don't already have an active thread that sells itself on inclusivity and an understanding of diversity. Especially if you just want others to do your fecking homework for you.
 
dumbo said:
Actually the real takeaway is before you start aggressively posting your divisive, poorly argued political and personal views, make sure you don't already have an active thread that sells itself on inclusivity and an understanding of diversity. Especially if you just want others to do your fecking homework for you.
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:lol: This was like a political scandal
 
dumbo said:
Actually the real takeaway is before you start aggressively posting your divisive, poorly argued political and personal views, make sure you don't already have an active thread that sells itself on inclusivity and an understanding of diversity. Especially if you just want others to do your fecking homework for you.
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What's a bit strange is that on his wikipedia page the persons wikipedia page who happens to be interested in everything he is and has taken an interest in curating his personal wikipedia page he describes himself as a Socialist!
 
And maybe you'd expect someone who is presumably good at marketing to sell them self a little better?

I've recommended him to Theresa May, UKIP, City and Liverpool FC anyway, hopefully loads of new business there.
 
Cheesy said:
Not Sanders himself as such, but just a well-spoken, charismatic politician who genuinely connects with voters outside of a certain bubble. The difference between Sanders and Corbyn as speakers is massive.
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Really? Or have you alongside most of our population not actually bothered to listen to any Corbyn speeches? Here's one:

 
This surprised me, didn't find out until I picked up the Evening Standard this evening.

May is my MP so she is guaranteed to get in here, so my vote doesn't really count.

Whilst I am vehemently against Brexshit, the alternative, i.e. Labour, is too scary to contemplate.

As usual with General Elections, it's the least worse option.
 
NinjaFletch said:
What's a bit strange is that on his wikipedia page the persons wikipedia page who happens to be interested in everything he is and has taken an interest in curating his personal wikipedia page he describes himself as a Socialist!
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personal wiki page:lol:

Words like socialism and compassion are often seen like poppies or red nose, you pay your quid one day a year and you get to keep it. Anyway the hypocrisy has been pointed out - as I think it should - I don't think any further humiliation will help anyone. I'm out.
 
Sassy Colin said:
This surprised me, didn't find out until I picked up the Evening Standard this evening.

May is my MP so she is guaranteed to get in here, so my vote doesn't really count.

Whilst I am vehemently against Brexshit, the alternative, i.e. Labour, is too scary to contemplate.

As usual with General Elections, it's the least worse option.
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Another Lib Dem voter in the bag :D
 
WackyWengerWorld said:
Really? Or have you alongside most of our population not actually bothered to listen to any Corbyn speeches? Here's one:

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Meh - that's not a bad speech and there's an alright amount of passion but for the most part it's largely Corbyn kind of using platitudes we've become used to hearing - just from the left instead of the right. He's mostly just shouting in the one tone whilst surrounded by people who agreed with him, and as evidenced by the polls it's not actually doing him any good.

I dunno, maybe it's just my preference, but Sanders come across as being someone genuinely able to connect with voters, and someone who has some self-awareness regarding his own position and knows he needs to try and understand why certain elements of society might not vote for him, what he can do to change that etc. And it nearly was quite effective, because he managed to pose a threat to Hilary even though she had the party machine behind her.

I don't get that with Corbyn at all. For all his rhetoric...he's spent most of his political career rebelling against his own party and will likely discredit the left-wing UK movement for decades to come by getting smashed in this upcoming election. He's perceived as someone stuck in his own London bubble to the same extent other politicians have been seen as part of the elite. Maybe that's harsh...but as someone who initially thought Corbyn was Labour's best choice, I'm getting tired of the argument that it's just the media misrepresenting Corbyn and we're all just failing to understand him. It's really not the case. He's just...not very good.
 
Sassy Colin said:
Not a chance, more bleedin' lefties.
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The Lib Dems are waaay to the right of Labour! Waaaaaaaaaayyyy to the right

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Right now they are they only sensible choice. Pro-EU, centre-liberals. Wont run the country into the ground like labour. Won't run the country into the ground like Tories.
 
rcoobc said:
The Lib Dems are waaay to the right of Labour! Waaaaaaaaaayyyy to the right

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Right now they are they only sensible choice. Pro-EU, centre-liberals. Wont run the country into the ground like labour. Won't run the country into the ground like Tories.
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I worry that Tim Farron lacks the charisma.
 
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