Yeah, his comments on 'lazy whinging assholes' were definitely aimed at those involved in tax law.
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Well I made similar comments as well and I have before
Again it is very easy to feel frustration at people you deem not to be pulling their weight
Well if nothing else it takes our mind of North Korea's shenanigans.
I'm late to the party, and I don't know if it's already been said, but the Lib Dems must be delighted. A vote about Brexit, with Labour following Jeremy Corbyn into the pro-Brexit lobby, leaves a lot of Remain voters with nowhere to go. A lifebelt thrown to a drowning man.
That says more about you than anyone else.
How accurate is this?
Ouch.
I get that. It's my personal preference.
I just don't like wasting a vote. I mean the MP by the way not the party in general. I'm just saying that if I lived in an area that the only real opposition to the Tories was Lib Dem then I would vote Lib Dem. If a Labor candidate was only going to get 5-10% of the vote then it's a waste of time voting for them. For me personally.
I know that seeing as how some people vote for small candidates that this is not a view shared by everybody.
The thing you have to remember about anyone who is 100% reliant on handouts from the state is that they will be the first and most dramatic beneficiary if and when they do get a job. So I'm happy to assume that the vast majority of people who are out of work aren't taking benefits because they prefer life that way.
Obviously, there will be some people who are so unbelievably lazy that they're happy to just about get by, financially, rather than try to better themselves, but they're in the minority. A tiny minority at that. And it's impossible for a society to have policies that works works for absolutely everyone. So if it works for the majority then that's the best we can hope for.
1/5 isn't short enough, 7/1 isn't long enough.How accurate is this?
I'm not sure corbyn is suggesting all this though. He's talking of a 50% rate at most, the rest is growing the economy and reducing overheads.
I like the idea of a national investment bank, all QE did really was to make the balance sheets of the banks look better. Direct investment in local economies is a far more effective approach for a country like ours where economic growth is so region specific.
Likewise, renationalising without cost as rail franchises come up, and removing a lot of the added expense of the internal market for the NHS are good policies, and largely cost neutral it seems.
I would likely pay more tax, but I am not sure its as drastic a change as some would have us believe. Nothing I have seen is really anything more than center left ideas, and certainly not the extremist approach the media like to portray.
The demonisation is more as individual representations of a broken system. We reward people as if we live in a meritocracy but we do not.
I actually think a lot of Corbyn's policies are sensible enough. I definitely prefer them to the Tory alternatives. Just a shame he hasn't got the wit or charisma to get them across the line.
This could be fun. 54% remain constituency.
Yeah I can agree with that. I meant more people who don't vote then complain when the current government does not work for them.
I feel if the death of Labour can lead to a new part which backs electoral reform it's worth it. No referendum this time, just feckin change it.
And if this was the view of literally anybody that the party would let stand for leadership, I'd have no issue with Corbyn going before the sun goes down. In fact, I think he'd probably do it.
I agree on the charisma front, but then again he is up against may and farron, and the reality is they are no better in that regard. Media coverage is what makes the real difference sadly. The trouble is for labour, any replacement to corbyn who follows those same policies would get the exact same treatment I think.
Fair play for sticking up for you point of view and I have a some sympathy for it as well.
However the above is totally wrong not just from the social angle to which other posters have pointed to but also from an economic standpoint. If you dont give the underprivileged kids at least a fighting chance then they will be a burden on the state for ever or worse still one of them might stab someone like you during a mugging/riot/whatever.
Pretty much agree. Some of his views are a tad wacky but on the whole, his policies are common sense. As you say, it's him as leader of the country that is just not going to happen.
Do you know which thread I meant?
This could be fun. 54% remain constituency.
I think any constituency thats put up with her for this long is going to keep voting her in.
This could be fun. 54% remain constituency.
If she got unseated that would be the best thing ever.
This could be fun. 54% remain constituency.
I'm sorry, but that feels like Blue Texas talk, while the Dems are running Dukakis.
May's decision is an implied admission that Brexit is going to be painful and therefore she wants a "mandate" that can be presented as stronger than the very small margin Leave achieved last year. Otherwise, there is no way she would jeopardise 3 years ahead of schedule the future of the Conservatives' biggest electoral asset - the leader of HM's Loyal Opposition.
Don't get fooled again GB.
June could be the end of May.
Nooe, if you earn more than £125k you dont get a personal allowance.
What you are describing is basically raising the personal allowance!
An independent right winger could have a real go at osborne, he's not popular with his part time approach. I wonder if any will try.
They really should.
They really should.
Surely it will simply see the Tories into power making all the rest of your post irrelevant posturing and pointless nothingness that nobody will care about a months later when the Tory government continues. They won't give 2 shits that the remain camp will vote towards parties that defend them. They'll laugh at you and tell you to go ahead and do it because it won't make the slightest bit of difference to them when the Lib Dem votes see them into power.
This doesn't surprise me at all. May would get shown up in a TV debate and they know it. She's fecking clueless.
Corbyn's reign has relegated Labour into insignificance. They have lost this election by a mile even if their traditional supporters in England (people like me) stick by them. I am voting Lib Dem because they best represent my political views at this time and I want to see another centrist party in the mix going forward.
"Where's Corbyn?"
Pointless. Everyone knows the Tories are ruthless with their own leaders, they'll ditch her like a shot.
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About Corbyn-style poicies getting support primarily from college students and not grown-ups - that is not the case for Melenchon, who doesn't benefit from the kind of generational divide that fueled Bernie or even Corbyn. (I think Corbyn's rise was the mixture of young people and old leftist organisers, not like Bernie who was very heavily dependent on under-30s)
About Corbyn-style poicies getting support primarily from college students and not grown-ups - that is not the case for Melenchon, who doesn't benefit from the kind of generational divide that fueled Bernie or even Corbyn. (I think Corbyn's rise was the mixture of young people and old leftist organisers, not like Bernie who was very heavily dependent on under-30s)
true story!
Oh well at least this will stop the BBC spreading fake news for a while...