Seriously don't even get me started on CMS, they are a load shit. My daughters dad has a similar wage to that but he moved in with someone with two kids already and then had another child which reduced payment significantly plus he has my daughter every other weekend so it's classed as shared care so they knocked off 1/7 as a 'discount' so now he pays 118 a month. There is a reason why maintenance isn't classed as income to the benefit office and that's because it's not guaranteed you will get any kind of payment.
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May back to attacking Corbyn and Brexit. Really delusional speech on Sky now, we've gone full on American now i swear.
Oh god she's moved on to fairness and JAMs.
Oh god she's moved on to fairness and JAMs.
I wouldn't say it's irrelevant. I think some people seriously underestimate the cost of living in 2017. No one should assume that the Nurse saying she earns £25k and uses food banks is just "bad with money".
This argument is happening everywhere by the way
http://www.independent.co.uk/voices...y-i-voted-for-industrail-action-a7736896.html
https://www.theguardian.com/society/2017/apr/29/nhs-nurses-pay-cut-12-per-cent-over-decade
Many people simply can't understand how a Nurse earning £25k a year could struggle to feed him or herself, but I think it's plain as day in expensive regions. To a home owner, or someone who has paid off the majority of their mortgage, then living on £25k a year could be trivial. This big difference is because house prices and rent increase are outstripping everything else at the moment.
Impartial or independent?
Does it actually bother people when politicians can't remember off hand the exact cost of a policy? I've never understood the furore around when it happens. They're not machines.
Yes, I'm the same. I don't want my MP to be a fact-bot 3000, I want them to be hard working with a good head on their shoulders.
Depends if they came on to a talk show to talk about it.
Or were actually bothering to have figures to start with. Heck, even an actual policy.
Yet the PM and the Tories can get away with not costing anything and just saying, "Vote for us and we will tell you the cost after the election."
Those two things aren't mutually exclusive are they?
"This is no time for a weak government leader and a weak leader to be making it up as they go along" - Theresa May. No really. Theresa May. THERESA MAY.
"That would be an ecumenical matter." - Theresa May
Standing in front of a podium which has a new slogan on it because they had to sack off 'Strong Stable Leadership' because everyone thought it was fecking nuts coming from her.
To be fair, and this is coming from someone who would never vote Tory (probably). To be fair, we already know what the cost of a Tory government is. It's the status quo.
Okay sure, scrapping free School Lunches and replacing them with free School Breakfasts was costed wrongly. Okay sure, maybe things like Brexit is going to feck us. Okay sure, maybe there are a couple of policies that will increase the burden on general taxation.
But by and large we know what the costs are, because we already have them. The Tories could have produced a one page manifesto by just writing "pretty much the same as now" and handing that in to the teacher.
Labour want to nationalise the Royal Mail, Water, Energy and Trains. They want a national investment bank. They want a £10 minimum wage. They want to tax the rich, and tax big companies.
The burden of proof is on Labour. We already know the Conservatives plans work. Or don't work, considering the deficit.
I'd keep quiet on that one Quackers, there might be a Tory planner reading this somewhere.
Pretty much the same view the people I know closely who are conservative voters feel. May is winging it. She's uncertain of how to go about things, her media handling as home secretary was wooden so the office of the PM and the further scrutiny it brings shows her up. At the very least Cameron had a bit of personality [well enough to get a thug life compilation]. Soundbite politics was enough to woo the politically non-engaged at times of voting even though his policies didn't deserve it. Sadly that makes a big difference. Just ask Ed Miliband.
Whereas Corbyn has found his element in campaigning and getting into the heart of communities. Unfortunately I don't think labour will turn it around in time but hopefully the long term consequences of Corbyn's surge, and the vast number of youth participating and engaging in politics will make the difference in the coming years. May wants this over and done with and get a majority so she can shut the curtains to the public. She will be in for a hell of a shock.
Emma Barnett was very clever (and underhand) in using the opportunity, when Corbyn was trying to find the costings, to stick in the barbed reference to Gordon Brown.
Corbyn: "Can I give you the exact figure in a moment?"
Barnett: "Is this not exactly the issue with people and the Labour Party which came up under Gordon Brown that we cannot trust you with our money?"
That's a cheap shot right there. The guy hadn't memorised the figure, which she had already been given earlier by Angela Rayner. The issue, as Emma well knew, was that Corbyn hadn't memorised the figure. That was it. Nothing about the rights or wrongs of the policy and how it would effect the lives of the Womens Hour audience. She made it an issue about memory to throw Corbyn off balance and took the opportunity to get into the audience's mind, almost subliminally, her own message - that Labour are not to be trusted with our money.
Corbyn: "Can I give you the exact figure in a moment?"
Barnett: "Is this not exactly the issue with people and the Labour Party which came up under Gordon Brown that we cannot trust you with our money?"
That's a cheap shot right there. The guy hadn't memorised the figure, which she had already been given earlier by Angela Rayner. The issue, as Emma well knew, was that Corbyn hadn't memorised the figure. That was it. Nothing about the rights or wrongs of the policy and how it would effect the lives of the Womens Hour audience. She made it an issue about memory to throw Corbyn off balance and took the opportunity to get into the audience's mind, almost subliminally, her own message - that Labour are not to be trusted with our money.
I'll be honest, I kind of already think of you as a bit of a Tory. Though I find it entirely possible that this is largely down to the fact you like debate and were you to be on a right-leaning forum you'd sound like a communist.
So, have any of you taken the uk.isidewith.com election quiz?
Any surprising results, like Labour with the highest percentage...
Any surprising results, like Labour with the highest percentage...
If the goal was ruining public services, or at least running them into the ground and leaving them functioning chaotically they did alright. Considering the whole goal of austerity was to balance the books, they've failed completely and it's astonishing that people think or buy the wholesale strong and stable line that not only doesn't apply to May in any sense but to the party in general. I know teachers taking equipment into classrooms and doctors leaving for sunnier climes because it's just not fecking worth it.
I don't think that's accurate rcoobc. May is a different leader after all and we've heard what she wants to do with the NHS which will prove to be a disaster. It's not "the same as it is now", you'd have a point if Cameroon was still at the helm but he's not. We're also in for a rocky period with Brexit which will give the Tories an excuse to force even more cuts while throwing the blame at the EU. I'm basing this evaluation on what May has claimed and what she's been saying, so it's not even a wild prediction.
I think I ended up with Plaid Cymru. They aren't too big on the south coast of England, sadly.So how many of have you taken the uk.isidewith.com election quiz?
Any surprising results, like Labour with the highest percentage...
So how many of have you taken the uk.isidewith.com election quiz?
Any surprising results, like Labour with the highest percentage...
Just taken it
76% Labour
72% Lib Dem
32% UKIP
27% Tory
"I called this election precisely because what I saw were that the other parties were intent on trying to disrupt our Brexit negotiations"
I'm struggling with this one. She was worried she'd be distracted and disrupted by other parties, so she decided the only way to do this was be distracted by an election campaign against them?
I'm struggling with this one. She was worried she'd be distracted and disrupted by other parties, so she decided the only way to do this was be distracted by an election campaign against them?
Just have a piece of paper with the figures on it. No memorisation needed.
Better still, let the interviewer have them so they don't have to waste time asking questions on something they already know. Oh hang on...
I am a bit of a tory. I like a small government where possible, like dealing with numbers, not a big fan on the idea of benefits forever, and think Labour did a crap job.On everything else though, I'm a central-lefty and central-liberal.
Indeed.
Just did it, I'm 86% with labour, LibDems and the snp.So, have any of you taken the uk.isidewith.com election quiz?
Any surprising results, like Labour with the highest percentage...
81% Green
72% Lib Dem
71% Labour
37% UKIP
31% Tory
Happy with that.
72% Lib Dem
71% Labour
37% UKIP
31% Tory
Happy with that.
I did one a few weeks back and my results were 72% labour and SNP. It was quite accurate in terms of my political views.So, have any of you taken the uk.isidewith.com election quiz?
Any surprising results, like Labour with the highest percentage...
"What we've seen today from Jeremy Corbyn is he'd be willing to do a deal at any price," she says. "He wants to get the worst deal for Britain at the highest possible price."
Does she think we're idiots?
Does she think we're idiots?
Thus far, my approval of the respective parties has not exceed 67%.
Although my placement on the political grid has remained fairly similar: moderately to the left, and a few paces into the top quadrant.
People will fall for it though, sadly.
So, have any of you taken the uk.isidewith.com election quiz?
Any surprising results, like Labour with the highest percentage...
Typical Tory, too tight to even share the link.
86% Lib Dem
81% Labour
73% Green
46% UKIP
45% Tory
No surprises on the Lib Dem/Labour stuff. It beggars belief that we're all getting higher UKIP totals than Tory though. Says a lot about how fecking extremist these cnuts have become.
Well, the polls suggest she'd be right if she does.
Brexit will be a hit, but have Labour costed that either?
The Tories have left room for further taxation; National Insurance increases for the self-employed, reducing social-care for the elderly, etc.
In fact, I entirely agree with everything you are saying, but the problem isn't the "cuts are uncosted", the problem is "there are cuts"!
Without Brexit, or another financial crisis, I think it's fair to say the Tories would, finally, close the deficit in this parliament. But even if they are going to close the deficit (even if they aren't going to pay off any of the debt), that doesn't solve the problem of the NHS funding, police funding, benefits cuts, low wages, etc.
It's all a bit of a joke