General Election 2017 | Cabinet reshuffle: Hunt re-appointed Health Secretary for record third time
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Who cares? Brexit means Brexit etc. Some people will swallow any sound bite.
Because most people do not understand economics and the practical impact of the decision. Also, most people are happy to grandstand as long as it does not affect what goes into their pockets. Once it does, things change and democracy gets the incompetents out but it'll be too late in this case.
No deal? What the feck? That would the most retarded thing imaginable.
Honestly, it's the hard leavers wet dream. feck the EU and bring back the Commonwealth. It's what they want, the cost doesn't matter.
Paxman tried to go after both their weak points - Jez, leadership; Tez, policy.
Ideal for Corbyn, as he's very able to defend himself, while if Paxman had focused on policy I imagine he'd have been even better prepared. May, just like with Neil, was pretty shocking - was so easily manipulated by Paxman, when he skewered her about looking weak "at the first sign of gun fire" with the EU.
No wonder she doesn't want to debate Jezzer.
Ideal for Corbyn, as he's very able to defend himself, while if Paxman had focused on policy I imagine he'd have been even better prepared. May, just like with Neil, was pretty shocking - was so easily manipulated by Paxman, when he skewered her about looking weak "at the first sign of gun fire" with the EU.
No wonder she doesn't want to debate Jezzer.
Its the kind of soundbite that goes down great with the electorate though.
Glad you survived the normally divorce-inducing Ikea furniture building process. Yes, I'm still voting Andy Slaughter, not that he is a Corbyn fan. I didn't realise til yesterday that my missus has emailed him on a number of issues and received responses. I can happily vote for him as a good constituency MP.
As for tonight- I think Corbyn came out better- even my even more Tory missus was impressed, but I think wasn't as bad as expected (expectations were low). Paxman was poor all round. Interesting to see if the next poll is swayed by tonight or not.
Sadly true
Too good.
"That's bollocks."
It's the new version of calling David Moyes, bobbins!
It's the new version of calling David Moyes, bobbins!
Is this a hobby of yours?
Yeah, Leeds Castle has one of those i think. Odd.
I bought a meerkat one for my sister a few years ago, and husky sledding before that. I though she showed some guts when the handler said: "if you wouldn't mind entering the cage and putting their harness on".
Herb Dean would have stopped that.
Trying to be objective I think Corbyn shaded it, but that the Tories will be encouraged by May's recovery towards the end because at one point it looked like it could be a massacre. Plenty of attack material for both sides you feel.
Can we go back and do the Q&A with David Davis please?
This pair of chumps on Sky News now, deary me
Godmother has moved out there. I promised at Christmas that I would help her with the move instead of getting her a present. Considering the most expensive gift I've given her in recent years was a Frozen DVD this was maybe a silly idea.Is this a hobby of yours?
Had some interesting conversations with a bunch of Fillon supporters as well. They distrusted Macron but obviously voted for him, and think he's played a blinder by convincing some people he's in any way a socialist. On the UK election, the first comment was "that Diane Abbott is a fecking mad woman".
I like David Davis. The only Tory I've ever respected.
How quiet this thread has gone sums it up for me
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Really? He's my mum's MP and seems to have no concept about how the EU actually works.
It certainly sums up that the debate has finished. Good observation.
At the end of the day - Corbyn needed to be perfect, and while he was good, it just wasn't enough:
Basically his stance on civil liberties is more sane than most politicians.
Interesting. May's just awful. I can't understand why Lynton Crosby's election strategy seems to have boiled down to pushing her front and centre, and ignoring anything else.
And nice one. Stella Creasy is still the perfect constituent MP out east, in Vauxhall I've no idea what Kate Hoey's like. Hopefully she gets the boot and I don't find out.
Say what you like about Diane, she does have cut-through!Godmother has moved out there. I promised at Christmas that I would help her with the move instead of getting her a present. Considering the most expensive gift I've given her in recent years was a Frozen DVD this was maybe a silly idea.
Had some interesting conversations with a bunch of Fillon supporters as well. They distrusted Macron but obviously voted for him, and think he's played a blinder by convincing some people he's in any way a socialist. On the UK election, the first comment was "that Diane Abbott is a fecking mad woman".
Glad you're back for the final stretch, much insanity awaits
I don't think anything substantial was said, no momentum made or destroyed. The headlines tomorrow will have to pick something completely out of context, or be rather subdued. We've learned nothing. A boring 1-1 draw between two mid-table teams, on a bank holiday night where everyone's mind is already on work tomorrow.
If May can just keep her mouth shut for the next 10 days, she will get her improved majority, albeit by around 20 seats instead of 100. Corbyn will stand down, but feel he's put his policies and agendas back into the public imagination. Both will go away happy.
To be honest, I'm not sure how you can find a 20 seat majority for the Tories the most likely outcome whilst being sure they have it in the bag. I don't feel these two go together.
The lady who actually believed the NHS would get £350m for leaving the EU.
So May Paxman won?
Just reading up on that now- had forgotten all that- still not sure about him, but I guess at least he has some principles, which is something in this day and age.
I think it was @712 who said earlier that we all thought she was a solid, if unspectacular politician, but no-one could have foreseen the weak and wobbly stuff.
I work in Vauxhall- would guess it's more Labour but given the high end riverside developments now cheek to jowl with the masses of social housing, it's anyone's guess tbh.
The lady who actually believed the NHS would get £350m for leaving the EU.
shouldn't laugh but..Why, what's happened?
Evidence that funding for education is necessary for the future of the country.The lady who actually believed the NHS would get £350m for leaving the EU.
Btw, did anyone see that they interviewed the Labour voter who confronted Corbyn on tax- he basically said that he wouldn't vote for him because it would cost him too much but that they need to increase spending..
The lady who actually believed the NHS would get £350m for leaving the EU.
She would have voted for Trump has she been american.