Racist views get you banned/fire from work etc EAP
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Racist views get you banned/fire from work etc EAP
It was violent, but my point is that there weren’t field armies having at one another in open battle.
True.
Yup. For sure. I just don't see an civil war necessary or nor argument as being racist. Just like the atomic bombing, it's now a largely theoretical discussion.
Anyway not really a big loss to the forum.
Ok. Because like @Edgar Allan Pillow said, in my opinion he was just expressing his views on historical events. As much as I disagree with both his analysis and his morality, I don't think this sort of thing should ideally be policed.
While I wholeheartedly agree with that. I think that we shouldn't shut our ears to the hate that is out there. You have to see the enemy to be able to combat them. I know that you will never change the mind of someone like Will but it is important to realise that people like Will still exist.
Valid points. There are two different camps here - the first who are offended and want him gone and the 2nd who want to debate him on his views. I generally gravitate towards the latter but in Will's case I could never really work out what the hell he was talking about.
Like in most cases I think the original was the best.
I don't think that you can really debate with someone who is as closed minded as Will is but I do believe that it is important to know that people like Will still exist in today's society. I can't argue with the decision to ban him as his views on slavery and Homophobia were both equally aberrant but we can't close our eyes and ears to the intolerance that still blights our society.
That's also part of the fun of debating. Its not particularly illuminating to debate people who always agree with you.
theres no point in debating someone like that. he would happily see all of us shipped off to some camp for insufficient patriotism and was happy to let slavery continue for another 50 years. he does not care about people that are different than he is and he will never change his mind. hes proven countless times on this forum his retrograde views and his refusal to engage honestly. enough is enough, he can feck off to stormfront or 4chan where his kind are welcomed.
Ron Paul was just far too by-the-book Libertarian than being an actual fascist, even if going by the book was a horrible approach to handling these situations. Alternatively, he wouldn't have argued against anyone who kneeled during the anthem.
Will, on the other hand, ticks all the boxes for fascist.
I can agree with that. I was countering his points even after I knew he was banned.
While I don't mind Americas fascination with it's flag, people have to realise that the 'We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal' is the most important part of the Declaration of Independence. While one portion of society is unlawfully killed by law enforcement officers the all are created equal doesn't hold true so the whole premise that the Union was based on falls apart.
The love of the flag can not and should not supersede the citizens right to equality.
Well said
Various lectures from the 6th ELSI international symposium (back in January) can be seen here. Sadly not all lectures are available.
This talk from Eric Smith is very useful to understand some background(or his book "The Origin and Nature of Life on Earth: The Emergence of the Fourth Geosphere", but it is not an easy read). Imo worth watching for anyone who is interested in science. The guy is absolutely brilliant and uses findings and ideas from many fields (e.g. physics, chemistry, information theory, geology, biology) to create a theory of the origin of life on earth, that is very compelling.
This talk from Eric Smith is very useful to understand some background(or his book "The Origin and Nature of Life on Earth: The Emergence of the Fourth Geosphere", but it is not an easy read). Imo worth watching for anyone who is interested in science. The guy is absolutely brilliant and uses findings and ideas from many fields (e.g. physics, chemistry, information theory, geology, biology) to create a theory of the origin of life on earth, that is very compelling.
The Scene of the Crime
A reporter’s journey to My Lai and the secrets of the past:
https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2015/03/30/the-scene-of-the-crime
A reporter’s journey to My Lai and the secrets of the past:
https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2015/03/30/the-scene-of-the-crime
I’m glad you posted this. It’s part of my American Military History curriculum.
Massive protests all over Vietnam - https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-44428971
Vietnam protesters clash with police over new economic zones
Demonstrators clashed with police in Vietnam in protests against plans for new economic zones that some fear will be dominated by Chinese investors.
Police reportedly detained more than a dozen people in the capital Hanoi and halted demonstrations in other cities.
Some carried anti-China banners, including one reading: "No leasing land to China even for one day."
The government proposed a law last year that would give foreign investors a 99-year lease on Vietnamese land.
The bill offers them greater incentives and fewer restrictions, in an attempt to promote growth in target areas.
The protesters suspect that the communist government will award Chinese investors leases in the three economic zones in the north-east, south-east and south-west of the country, and that this would be a pretext for Chinese control over the island of Van Don near their shared border.
China once colonised Vietnam, the two countries fought a border war less than 40 years ago, and Vietnam contests Chinese control of a number of islands in the South China Sea.
As a result, says BBC South East Asia correspondent Jonathan Head, Vietnam's leaders must always tread a delicate line between maintaining relations with their powerful neighbour, and avoiding provoking anti-Chinese sentiment in a fiercely nationalist population.
Protesters bring China issue to the fore
By Giang Nguyen, editor of BBC Vietnamese
This is the biggest challenge for Vietnam's Prime Minister Nguyen Xuan Phuc since his government was sworn in more than two years ago with a pledge to stamp out corruption and revitalise the economy.
The three special economic zones are meant to be "mini Singapores" - business-friendly environments complete with high-tech hubs.
But Mr Phuc appears to have underestimated deep-seated resentments against China, and the speed at which protesters can utilise social media to organise street marches in cities including Hanoi and Saigon.
While some are fearful of a perceived Chinese influence in Vietnam under the economic zone proposals, others are concerned about plans for a new cyber security bill. The latter has angered Facebook users in particular, who fear the authorities will be given too much power, while online surveillance could become the norm.
Next week, two parliamentary sessions - on 12 and 15 June - are scheduled for voting on the two draft bills and protesters have said they will take to the streets again until - or unless - the government abandons them both.
Vietnam won a naval battle against a Mongolian fleet off Van Don island in 1288, and some Vietnamese people fear their government will give it away amid tensions between the two countries over disputed territory in the South China Sea.
Prime Minister Nguyen Xuan Phuc last week told local media the 99-year term would be reduced, although he did not specify the new length.
And on Saturday, the government announced a vote on the draft legislation would be delayed to allow further scrutiny.
Demonstrators are also objecting to a cyber security bill, scheduled for a vote on 12 June. Human Rights Watch says it would give the government broad powers to quash dissent online.
Roughly $5 trillion worth of global trade passes through the South China Sea annually, and a number of countries claim disputed islands in the area.
Vietnam has seen protests over the maritime disputes in recent years, including in 2014, when Chinese citizens fled the country in their thousands after violence targeting foreign-owned businesses.
Vietnam protesters clash with police over new economic zones
Demonstrators clashed with police in Vietnam in protests against plans for new economic zones that some fear will be dominated by Chinese investors.
Police reportedly detained more than a dozen people in the capital Hanoi and halted demonstrations in other cities.
Some carried anti-China banners, including one reading: "No leasing land to China even for one day."
The government proposed a law last year that would give foreign investors a 99-year lease on Vietnamese land.
The bill offers them greater incentives and fewer restrictions, in an attempt to promote growth in target areas.
The protesters suspect that the communist government will award Chinese investors leases in the three economic zones in the north-east, south-east and south-west of the country, and that this would be a pretext for Chinese control over the island of Van Don near their shared border.
China once colonised Vietnam, the two countries fought a border war less than 40 years ago, and Vietnam contests Chinese control of a number of islands in the South China Sea.
As a result, says BBC South East Asia correspondent Jonathan Head, Vietnam's leaders must always tread a delicate line between maintaining relations with their powerful neighbour, and avoiding provoking anti-Chinese sentiment in a fiercely nationalist population.
Protesters bring China issue to the fore
By Giang Nguyen, editor of BBC Vietnamese
This is the biggest challenge for Vietnam's Prime Minister Nguyen Xuan Phuc since his government was sworn in more than two years ago with a pledge to stamp out corruption and revitalise the economy.
The three special economic zones are meant to be "mini Singapores" - business-friendly environments complete with high-tech hubs.
But Mr Phuc appears to have underestimated deep-seated resentments against China, and the speed at which protesters can utilise social media to organise street marches in cities including Hanoi and Saigon.
While some are fearful of a perceived Chinese influence in Vietnam under the economic zone proposals, others are concerned about plans for a new cyber security bill. The latter has angered Facebook users in particular, who fear the authorities will be given too much power, while online surveillance could become the norm.
Next week, two parliamentary sessions - on 12 and 15 June - are scheduled for voting on the two draft bills and protesters have said they will take to the streets again until - or unless - the government abandons them both.
Vietnam won a naval battle against a Mongolian fleet off Van Don island in 1288, and some Vietnamese people fear their government will give it away amid tensions between the two countries over disputed territory in the South China Sea.
Prime Minister Nguyen Xuan Phuc last week told local media the 99-year term would be reduced, although he did not specify the new length.
And on Saturday, the government announced a vote on the draft legislation would be delayed to allow further scrutiny.
Demonstrators are also objecting to a cyber security bill, scheduled for a vote on 12 June. Human Rights Watch says it would give the government broad powers to quash dissent online.
Roughly $5 trillion worth of global trade passes through the South China Sea annually, and a number of countries claim disputed islands in the area.
Vietnam has seen protests over the maritime disputes in recent years, including in 2014, when Chinese citizens fled the country in their thousands after violence targeting foreign-owned businesses.
History on Fire did a podcast series on this just recently.
@PedroMendez
Cost disease:
https://work.qz.com/1096890/the-crazy-economics-of-childcare-costs/
(I was too lazy to read it, saw this graph in some other context)
Unlike health and college, this isn't an over-regulated/subsidised sector (AFAIK). The explosion certainly mirrors the increase in college (though not the same order of magnitude IIRC).
The one idea I have regarding these is that they are not outsourceable and not cheapened by outsourcing. If the reason that most things including wages have remained at (roughly) the same price (low inflation) is cheap imports, it makes sense that these fields continue to get more expensive.
Cost disease:
https://work.qz.com/1096890/the-crazy-economics-of-childcare-costs/
(I was too lazy to read it, saw this graph in some other context)
Unlike health and college, this isn't an over-regulated/subsidised sector (AFAIK). The explosion certainly mirrors the increase in college (though not the same order of magnitude IIRC).
The one idea I have regarding these is that they are not outsourceable and not cheapened by outsourcing. If the reason that most things including wages have remained at (roughly) the same price (low inflation) is cheap imports, it makes sense that these fields continue to get more expensive.
Einstein's travel diaries reveal 'shocking' xenophobia
https://www.theguardian.com/books/2018/jun/12/einsteins-travel-diaries-reveal-shocking-xenophobia
https://www.theguardian.com/books/2018/jun/12/einsteins-travel-diaries-reveal-shocking-xenophobia
Maybe you should at least skip through the article, because it offers various explanations. 
That method of dying is akin to what Trump is doing to this country, slowly, almost inexorably, crushing it.
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Same old Britain...
https://www.theguardian.com/society...memorial-hospital-opioid-drugs-policy-inquiry
https://www.theguardian.com/society...w-victims-families-were-let-down-for-20-years
Gosport hospital: more than 450 patients died due to opioid drugs policy ~Guardian said:
https://www.theguardian.com/society...memorial-hospital-opioid-drugs-policy-inquiry
https://www.theguardian.com/society...w-victims-families-were-let-down-for-20-years
Gosport hospital deaths: families condemn 'scandalous' failings
https://www.theguardian.com/society...l-deaths-families-condemn-scandalous-failings
Guardian said:
https://www.theguardian.com/society...l-deaths-families-condemn-scandalous-failings
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List of European Union Tariffs on U.S. Goods (PDF) - World Trade Organisation
Still the most peaceful 70 odd years in human history. Tells you what kind of species Homo sapiens really is...
OK. But your original statement was "we are enjoying many years of peace "
That's false no matter how you want to butter it up.
How does 1945-2018 compare with 1815-1914?
Spare a few notable conflicts (ie Taiping rebellion, the US civil war, Crimean wars etc) 1815-1914 was relatively stable from a historical context. The post WW2 order has been even more stable with deaths near an all time low relative to global population. We are currently near an all time low.
Well it was a time of European expansion in Asia and Africa which brought its own type of conflict, violence and brutality. But certainly quite stable in terms of great power conflicts.
What are the sources you and @Cal? are using in terms of death tolls and populations?
This has some good data, particularly the top graphic showing civilian and military deaths since 1400 relative to global population changes.
https://ourworldindata.org/war-and-peace
Excellent. Without the Taiping Rebellion the 19th century would be more in line with the post-WW2 it seems.
And this is the first time I ever heard of the Lopez War.
Quite shocking what a violent place Europe has been, especially when we consider that much of the death and violence outside Europe in the post-1500 time period was due to European-waged wars.