General CE Chat

[InfiniteBoredom]

That's why he got elected, unless you'd read his book you probably would have known little about his other views until it was too late

He was literally jailed after a very public insurrection attempt and trial (The Beerhall Putsch).

1920s Germans liked what they see, thinking that it was all 'economic anxiety' and not that they were by and large racist fecks is beyond misguided.

 

[nimic]

That's why he got elected, unless you'd read his book you probably would have known little about his other views until it was too late

He wasn't even remotely coy about what he wanted to do. Anti-semitism, Lebensraum, revanchism, anti-democracy, militarism, reactionary traditionalism, they were all central and very well-communicated positions.

 

[VorZakone]

But Versailles treaty! Economic hardships!

Why the sarcasm? These factors played a significant role in German resentment towards democracy and Weimar, especially when the Great Depression hit. Then there was the fear of the Communists and the left in general.

Hitler wasn't shy about his antisemitism or Lebensraum rhetoric but those weren't the sole factors at play.

 

[4bars]

He was literally jailed after a very public insurrection attempt and trial (The Beerhall Putsch).

1920s Germans liked what they see, thinking that it was all 'economic anxiety' and not that they were by and large racist fecks is beyond misguided.

Is a combination of factors. The economic anxiety was there as it had been since 2008 in the west. When that happens, the leaders blames who are "different" than "you" to cover their own incompetence and corruption and those are mostly immigrants, that can't vote so they dont care and ethno racial minorities that has little voter power and are easier to identify and corner. is happening now, happened in the 30s in europe, happened in the medieval ages with the jews when they had bigger survivability during pest events and so on

Racism is always there with some people at different levels. Rampant racism is a consequence of the ruling class promoting it, bringing it a flout to cover his skin deviating the attention from them to those minority groups. So economic problems are definitely the reason cover up by racism

 

[InfiniteBoredom]

Why the sarcasm? These factors played a significant role in German resentment towards democracy and Weimar, especially when the Great Depression hit. Then there was the fear of the Communists and the left in general.

Hitler wasn't shy about his antisemitism or Lebensraum rhetoric but those weren't the sole factors at play.

Because believe it or not the post WWI German state was doing pretty well despite the reparation during the 20s, and yet throughout that time the Nazis were growing exponentially despite terrorising other political parties with the brown shirts, repeated public overt propagation of their agenda, carrying out a coup against the government , and getting banned. So the obvious conclusion to draw is the Nazi followers of the era were racist fecks who thirsted for revenge out of a feeling of humiliation and shame, not because of the worsening of material condition. They had 130k members in 1929, for a party that was reformed only 3 years earlier, that’s a heck of a lot ‘pent up economic anxiety’.

I’m sick and tired of the liberal way of thinking we can reform people out of their evil ways, and we must always try to see the good in people. No, a lot of them are irredeemable and needed to be fought, not tolerated and coddled.

 

[Frosty]

Because believe it or not the post WWI German state was doing pretty well despite the reparation during the 20s, and yet throughout that time the Nazis were growing exponentially despite terrorising other political parties with the brown shirts, repeated public overt propagation of their agenda, carrying out a coup against the government , and getting banned. So the obvious conclusion to draw is the Nazi followers of the era were racist fecks who thirsted for revenge out of a feeling of humiliation and shame, not because of the worsening of material condition. They had 130k members in 1929, for a party that was reformed only 3 years earlier, that’s a heck of a lot ‘pent up economic anxiety’.

I’m sick and tired of the liberal way of thinking we can reform people out of their evil ways, and we must always try to see the good in people. No, a lot of them are irredeemable and needed to be fought, not tolerated and coddled.

Ludendorff should get a chunk of the blame for his stab in the back myth too. That created resentment the Nazis bought into (and Ludendorff was a Nazi too).

 

[VorZakone]

Because believe it or not the post WWI German state was doing pretty well despite the reparation during the 20s, and yet throughout that time the Nazis were growing exponentially despite terrorising other political parties with the brown shirts, repeated public overt propagation of their agenda, carrying out a coup against the government , and getting banned. So the obvious conclusion to draw is the Nazi followers of the era were racist fecks who thirsted for revenge out of a feeling of humiliation and shame, not because of the worsening of material condition. They had 130k members in 1929, for a party that was reformed only 3 years earlier, that’s a heck of a lot ‘pent up economic anxiety’.

I’m sick and tired of the liberal way of thinking we can reform people out of their evil ways, and we must always try to see the good in people. No, a lot of them are irredeemable and needed to be fought, not tolerated and coddled.

There was hardcore far right support for the Nazis but they received less than 3% of the votes in 1928. Then the Great Depression hit, the situation in Germany deteroriated, civil unrest increased, many Germans feared the Communists coming to power and in that toxic cocktail the Nazis managed to rally more people towards their sides. And there was anti-Weimar and anti-democratic sentiment brewing throughout the 1920s.

No need to be sarcastic about the Versailles Treaty and the Great Depression in my opinion. These were fairly detailed laid out in the book Coming of the Third Reich by historian Richard Evans.

 

[RDCR07]

Republican voice of reason:

 

[Red in STL]

There was hardcore far right support for the Nazis but they received less than 3% of the votes in 1928. Then the Great Depression hit, the situation in Germany deteroriated, civil unrest increased, many Germans feared the Communists coming to power and in that toxic cocktail the Nazis managed to rally more people towards their sides. And there was anti-Weimar and anti-democratic sentiment brewing throughout the 1920s.

No need to be sarcastic about the Versailles Treaty and the Great Depression in my opinion. These were fairly detailed laid out in the book Coming of the Third Reich by historian Richard Evans.

In early 1922, 160 German marks was equal to one US dollar. By November 1923, the currency had depreciated to 4,200,000,000,000 marks to one US dollar.

In 1923, the exchange rate between the dollar and the Mark was one trillion Marks to one dollar

Now that's what you call inflation!

 

[Mike Smalling]

Republican voice of reason:

The Republican party isn't coming back to this kind of voter. It's gone.