Gary Neville

I don’t like the way he shuffles for a pen, I don’t like his hand on his hip, oh I don’t like a straight run up.
Neville hates everything that everybody does when taking a pen
 
In order to become a neutral United legend he has to love Liverpool. Wouldnt surprise me if his underwear has This is Anfield text on it.
 
His commentary is like the bloke at the pub who is two pints deep, with his ‘oooooohhhh’s and lines like “I don’t like that I don‘t”

Sky’s main commentary team of seemingly Tyler, Neville and Carragher is annoying as feck. A combination of Neville and Carragher being too casual for a professional broadcast and Tyler editorialising on play by play.
 
In order to become a neutral United legend he has to love Liverpool.
Absolutely this. Yet the reverse doesn’t apply to carragher.

Didn’t watch live but saw the highlights and he says that Keira challenge want a red?! As clear a red as you’ll ever see. If that was a United player he’d be going mad.
 
Failure? Why? Not the first or the last youth player to leave! SAF would kick him out by now. But we have been marketing agency not football club for a while. And our Divas now that very well.
 
How much is United's football department to blame. We can't say we've being doing a good job with many of our talents but surely Rashford has to take the lion's share of the blame
Just can't point the finger at his mate who burnt him out for two consecutive seasons.
 
He was the one of the most productive wide forwards in world football over the last 2 seasons. It’s not down to coaching.
 
He was the one of the most productive wide forwards in world football over the last 2 seasons. It’s not down to coaching.

It's down to a multitude of things. Coaching is one of them, confidence, team unity, injuries.

People seem to want to blame Rashford for everything but when he's not on the pitch we aren't any better really anyway hence why he gets brought on so often.

This season has just been one giant mess. Clearly these players have fallen out.
 
How much is United's football department to blame. We can't say we've being doing a good job with many of our talents but surely Rashford has to take the lion's share of the blame
Yes. Sancho is doing just fine so why would the club be to blame now for Rashfords form? I still have hope he will come good again.
 
How much is United's football department to blame. We can't say we've being doing a good job with many of our talents but surely Rashford has to take the lion's share of the blame
Lack of coaching (maybe) and overindulging (almost certainly) from Ole. Plus it’s never a good idea to entrust development of young players to Jose.

Not just the football department though. See below:
Failure? Why? Not the first or the last youth player to leave! SAF would kick him out by now. But we have been marketing agency not football club for a while. And our Divas now that very well.
 
Lack of coaching (maybe) and overindulging (almost certainly) from Ole. Plus it’s never a good idea to entrust development of young players to Jose.

Not just the football department though. See below:
He had his best form under Ole so that is probably not it. Something is wrong with him for about 18 months or so and we don't know what.
 
He also had some of his worst form under him
I disagree. Nothing beats now or downing tools under Jose.
His absolute heights were under Ole. Say what you want about Ole but he had the front 3 play as a constant goal threat no matter how badly we played
 
He had his best form under Ole so that is probably not it. Something is wrong with him for about 18 months or so and we don't know what.
He did. The overindulgence was surely a consequence of that.

Edit: also being (over)played while injured.
 


Lose/lose if he goes? :rolleyes:

Hang on, why would it be a failure for the club's football department? because he's an academy graduate? if he's the tearing the world of football apart then I'd agree. But him at his current form is no more useful than Dan James and we wanted him out. It's him that said he was considering his future. Which is mostly a bs anyway, it's only there to put him in a stronger position than the club. The question is should we allow this to happen again? the fact that Ralf has given his explanation regarding this among other things made it seem like he was allowed to do so. Here's hoping the club will actually stop bending over for underperforming players' demands now. I can't see him going anywhere but this nonsense bargaining has to stop. I'd be the happiest man in the world if every time such drama occurs it comes from a player that has scored 40 goals a season (because that means we get to have a player of that quality) but for it to come from an underperforming player? that's just stupid.
 
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I disagree. Nothing beats now or downing tools under Jose.
His absolute heights were under Ole. Say what you want about Ole but he had the front 3 play as a constant goal threat no matter how badly we played
Some of his worst games did come under Ole too.

I am not saying he didn't nose dive further under Rangnick or in patches under Jose.
 
Some of his worst games did come under Ole too.

I am not saying he didn't nose dive further under Rangnick or in patches under Jose.
Yeah but those tended to come when he was injured. It’s just Ole got the absolute best out of him.
Plus he ran, put in an effort. Now when he’s asked to press he doesn’t bother. It’s why I’m reluctant to blame coaching. He just gives up like when he’s surrounded by 2/3 players. He just tries and some stupid nutmeg and jogs back. That can’t be coaching.
 


Lose/lose if he goes? :rolleyes:

In the eyes of a top red like Neville, academy players who break into the first team must be kept at all costs because that proves our DNA is legit. Frankly it'd be a win for United if we sold Rashford and his inflated ego.
 
Yeah but those tended to come when he was injured. It’s just Ole got the absolute best out of him.
Plus he ran, put in an effort. Now when he’s asked to press he doesn’t bother. It’s why I’m reluctant to blame coaching. He just gives up like when he’s surrounded by 2/3 players. He just tries and some stupid nutmeg and jogs back. That can’t be coaching.
Rashford was always not pressing well. He was atrocious in tracking back since before Ole.

The performances are not too different, only last season he got the end of some goals in key moments.
 
If we sell him for 40 millions, how is that a failure? Is Abraham considered a failure for Chelsea?

No player coming from the academy and having a career in top football should be viewed as a failure. Welbeck, Evans, Cleverley, Pereira, Lingard and many others are recent successes of our football academy.

Its time to let Rashford and Henderson go and have careers elsewhere. Just because they won't stay with us forever, this doesn't mean we or they have failed.
 
Rashford was always not pressing well. He was atrocious in tracking back since before Ole.

The performances are not too different, only last season he got the end of some goals in key moments.

Yep, Rashford having a great workrate before is one of the biggest myths regarding United out there. He never did, not under Jose or Ole.

And according to the stats, he's been pressing more and putting in more defensive actions this season than he ever did under Ole.
 
Neville has grown noticeably more acute in his tendency toward arch sourness of late. He really went after Micah Richards last week and there was no hint of mirth in his eyes when he accused the Mic of emotional ranting. Utd are shite to follow and its written all over his face.
 
Yes. Sancho is doing just fine so why would the club be to blame now for Rashfords form? I still have hope he will come good again.
At the moment but Rashford was also doing fine and now look. Martial also had a purple patch so we know our attackers can play well but the problem is getting them to stay in form over 3-4 seasons
 
Just can't point the finger at his mate who burnt him out for two consecutive seasons.

Lack of coaching (maybe) and overindulging (almost certainly) from Ole.

Dont know where this guy was when his mate played an injured Rashford to the ground all season.

Exactly.

Neville has grown noticeably more acute in his tendency toward arch sourness of late. He really went after Micah Richards last week and there was no hint of mirth in his eyes when he accused the Mic of emotional ranting. Utd are shite to follow and its written all over his face.


Yeah he's increasingly fond of his own voice too, chap calls Richards emotional when the same man was asking Ole where he wants his statue after a couple of wins and spouting marketing wank talk like "Cultural Reset" etc.
 


Lose/lose if he goes? :rolleyes:


Agree with Gary.

I know others will interprete this as holding onto academy players for the sake of it but it is ridiculous that we're now talking about Rashford leaving. It's a failure from player and club.

He has the talent and he's Mancunian. We shouldn't be losing that kind of player.

That it's a possibility shows there's been a balls up in his development.