He is too close to and involved with the club and the England setup. These are literally his mates and it kills his impartiality.
I also wonder if there is pressure from the FA as we all know how they like yes men around the team.
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He is too close to and involved with the club and the England setup. These are literally his mates and it kills his impartiality.
I also wonder if there is pressure from the FA as we all know how they like yes men around the team.
If he was a basic, half decent right back I don’t know what adjective you’d use to describe the ones we’ve had since.
We know there is pressure from the FA. Keane broke the fourth wall on live TV briefly by saying "I know we need to protect the England players but.." when he went on a rant about a couple poor English players in a club game.
Good grief.
Why do people get so upset when a United supporting pundit disagrees with them or has a difference of opinion. He's more of a red than any of us ever will be. When you're on the screen for as much as he is these days then he's bound to say something a bit off. But more importantly, it's just opinion, who cares!
Man Utd - 1992 - 2011
Over 600 games for united
8 Titles
3 fa cups
3 league cups
2 champion's league
fifa world club cup
PFA Team of the year x 5
PFA Team of the century
He's literally one of the most decorated English footballers ever, won and achieved all of the above and we have to see some newbie like yourself state that a club legend was very basic
You need 8 more likes, you've had 2 in 4 years. You're content is lacking and some might even say that you are at best a vary basic, half decent poster.
How was he right about the Stones incident? Bruno did absolutely nothing wrong on that one, there wouldn't have been any contact at all if Stones hadn't stuck his own foot in late and caught Bruno with his studs. The amount of people in here saying that made me go and watch it again and there was absolutely nothing in it from Bruno. I actually remembered it as a hard but fair challenge, but it wasn't even that. It was literally just Bruno kicking the ball after Stones had taken a poor touch.
There was one or two later that he was absolutely petulant and deserved criticism for, but the Stones incident was the perfect example of how Neville will force unrelated things into the narrative he wants to create. In this particular situation he even would have been right if he'd just waited a few more minutes when there was an accurate moment, but there are often times where Neville creates his narrative and nothing happens. Indeed, the fact that so many people in here seem to think Bruno was at fault in the Stones incident actually shows how much a commentator creating a narrative and speaking strongly about it influences people. If Neville hadn't gone on about it, not a single person would have had a problem with what Bruno did in that situation.
His comment about Antony deserving a red card was also ridiculous. Antony was petulant and obviously deserving of a yellow card, but if that was any other team in the league Neville wouldn't have made his red card comment.
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Remove your nose from his anus at once. You could've put Sun Jihabi in the team we had in the 90s and noughties and he would've achieved as much.Man Utd - 1992 - 2011
Over 600 games for united
8 Titles
3 fa cups
3 league cups
2 champion's league
fifa world club cup
PFA Team of the year x 5
PFA Team of the century
He's literally one of the most decorated English footballers ever, won and achieved all of the above and we have to see some newbie like yourself state that a club legend was very basic
You need 8 more likes, you've had 2 in 4 years. You're content is lacking and some might even say that you are at best a vary basic, half decent poster.
And wow, counting likes on this forum... Just wow. Aren't you little miss popular, hope you win the prom this year. Amount of likes on here amounts to the amount of football knowledge one has does it? Is whoever has 1000+ likes the master of all football? Laughable.
I don't know if it's pressure from the FA or not but he's right, for some reason English players, or in particular England internationals, get treated with kid gloves when they're in bad form or put in bad performances.
I think that's why Keane is so watchable as a pundit. I don't think he's particularly inciteful from a tactical point of view but you know he doesn't give a shit about slating a player just because they're England stalwarts (eg Maguire and Pickford to name two examples).
Remove your nose from his anus at once. You could've put Sun Jihabi in the team we had in the 90s and noughties and he would've achieved as much.
And wow, counting likes on this forum... Just wow. Aren't you little miss popular, hope you win the prom this year. Amount of likes on here amounts to the amount of football knowledge one has does it? Is whoever has 1000+ likes the master of all football? Laughable.
Regarding my nose. I would but it's up your mum's anus instead
Likes are just used to weed out troll's from obtaining full membership so they can't come onto a united forum and claim a club legend isn't a club legend. Come to think of it, posters like yourself who has little activity in 4 years and only has two likes. My like's comment was tongue in cheek about your very basic, half decent right back take but you completely missed it and took the bait
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Well that's fecking nonsense.Remove your nose from his anus at once. You could've put Sun Jihabi in the team we had in the 90s and noughties and he would've achieved as much.
And wow, counting likes on this forum... Just wow. Aren't you little miss popular, hope you win the prom this year. Amount of likes on here amounts to the amount of football knowledge one has does it? Is whoever has 1000+ likes the master of all football? Laughable.
He’s only been sacked once by Ipswich.
I watched our 3-0 defeat to Arsenal in 1998 recently and apart from Vieira absolutely running riot with an insane performance, what struck me was how Keane was by far our best player along with Becks and was constantly trying to push the team forward even though he and the team was being dominated. He was very petulant like Bruno, could have been red carded and Vieira was winding him up, i don't argue against that, but the difference between him and Bruno is that I feel Bruno feels sorry for himself and blames everyone and throws his hands in the air, whereas Keane was just constantly pushing himself even in losing battles. That's a massive difference in captain quality.Yeah. Him trying to slap Alan Shearer when we were losing at Newcastle was all about geeing up his teammates. The subsequent red card was designed to inspire his teammates to pull the score line back.
Beauty is in the eye of the beholder. Keane was hated by everyone not us and, frankly, I liked it that way and I'm sure he did too.
Completely this. Carragher and the rest will eat it up. I'm sure TalksH!te will be all over it too.
If you go by some of what's written on here you'd think Roy Keane was like Captain America.
Regarding my nose. I would but it's up your mum's anus instead
Likes are just used to weed out troll's from obtaining full membership so they can't come onto a united forum and claim a club legend isn't a club legend. Come to think of it, posters like yourself who has little activity in 4 years and only has two likes. My like's comment was tongue in cheek about your very basic, half decent right back take but you completely missed it and took the bait
I really hope a moderator gives you a "has his nose up a newbies mums anus" tagline
Technically, correct.
But he stepped down at Sunderland after being in the relegation zone and a bad run of results. He would have been sacked.
It wasnt going well for ROI when he and O'Neill left by "mutual agreement".
He is right to lay blame at glazers but why won't he call out the technical director of the club who has a big influence on what we currently are, is it because it's his mate Darren fletcher, would he be more harsh on the person in that position if they were foreign and never had any association with the club previously?
Because its all irrelevant, the root of the problem is the ownership, its pointless talking about any other role at this stage, until we see a change in ownership it'll just get progressively worse.
Never felt a greater kinship with Gary. About time someone in this country spoke truth to power.
Why does that make any difference? If it was relevant you wouldn’t be able to bring any ex managers in for their analysis
He's usually OK until one team has the game won, then he just starts picking on the losing team and being ridiculously dramatic to the point you cant even call it punditry.
It was amusing when it was Arsenal and he ended up taking on their fans for some reason, but otherwise its just annoying to listen to.
His microphone should gradually get quieter as the game goes on so that by the 80th minute he's just talking to himself.
I think overall, if you're a professional pundit, your analysis shouldn't include things like claiming Bruno Fernandez should be sent off for telepathically causing Anthony to foul someone.
Then again his colleague spits at young children and once had to spend Monday y Night Football apologising to the guest pundit for the time he participated in a racist campaign against them, so he could be doing worse.
It was amusing when it was Arsenal and he ended up taking on their fans for some reason, but otherwise its just annoying to listen to.
His microphone should gradually get quieter as the game goes on so that by the 80th minute he's just talking to himself.
I think overall, if you're a professional pundit, your analysis shouldn't include things like claiming Bruno Fernandez should be sent off for telepathically causing Anthony to foul someone.
Then again his colleague spits at young children and once had to spend Monday y Night Football apologising to the guest pundit for the time he participated in a racist campaign against them, so he could be doing worse.
Which full time pundits have had a good post playing career? You could argue Souness had the best of the bunch and he was awful to listen to.
what a trophy Ladin united career Gary had as a player who watched united growing up as a kid. A lad who knew it, got it, and did it.
Thats the laughable part about Keane moaning about Bruno. Keane ran up to refs and screamed in their faces, he often got sent off and he admitted to trying to injure Halaand. He was guilty of everything Bruno has been accused of.
He was multiple times the petulant cnut Bruno is. Just did it in a hard man way, doesn't make him any less petulant.
He was our cnut though
I feel you're missing something here.
I like Neville but be really let’s himself down with some of these debates. He tries too hard to prove his point that he ends up saying something stupid. For Instance
“Ange Postecoglou came into a 'stable environment' at Tottenham. Erik ten Hag didn't."
When you come out with absolute nonsense like this people will gradually stop taking your opinion seriously and just see you as an agenda driven muppet.
“Ange Postecoglou came into a 'stable environment' at Tottenham. Erik ten Hag didn't."
When you come out with absolute nonsense like this people will gradually stop taking your opinion seriously and just see you as an agenda driven muppet.
What about kicking off in pre season because his villa wasn't big enough?
I picked up on that also. It only appears stable because they're doing so well. If we were playing really well then a lot of our issues would disappear or not be talked about. Nobody talked about a toxic environment last season, or in Ole's first season.
Spurs were anything but a stable environment when he took over though. I'd say worse than us, plus they had less money to spend and have a much worse squad of players than us.
It just goes to show how a happy team really sets the tone for a club. We worry about behind the scenes stuff first, when in reality if we could sort the football out then the whole outlook would change.
Well apart from all the ex managers who had good careers.
Name a few that haven’t been sacked at least once
The poster didn't say anything about him being sacked. Yeah that happens to almost all managers.
They talked about his complete failure at the only managerial job he ever had.
I don't see why that means we can't have any manager who yes may have been sacked but also had successes.
You see the difference? Allardyce has been sacked but he's also had achievements?
Gary hasn't.
It's a real shame we don't have more managers doing punditry.
Exactly. And the thing is I don’t think United fans are demanding league titles etc. but we expect to be in the top four and to be able to play some decent football. None of those things are impossible because of the glazers. We’ve finished in the top four multiple times under them. This whole we can’t do better notion is a nonsense. We can do better than 8th place and losing every other league match we play.
If you’re sacked it’s because you’ve failed, some utterly failed others may have enjoyed some success first. No difference, doesn’t make them any better at punditry. Was graham Souness a better pundit? Alan shearer is an analyst but was an utter failure as a manager
Just watched his podcast from yesterday. He is 100% bang on about creating a culture of excellence and how the club has failed to set high standards since SAF left. Fergie once said complacency is a disease and I am afraid the patient is almost terminally ill.
Only hope that a new board backed by whoever owns the club can set high standards required to get the club back where it belongs.
Only hope that a new board backed by whoever owns the club can set high standards required to get the club back where it belongs.
Gary is intelligent and speaks about the bigger picture. He makes a lot of sense wondering why these managers and players keep failing. Culture swamps strategy.
I'll never look at you the same way again.
Hard to get busy with the wife when Dennis and the kids are in the room.