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Gary Neville - Pundit
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Still living in HSPA with your insults matey?
Give it a few years and you might have a cutting retort that anyone below 60 years of age might understand.
Teddy Sheringham would beat you easily
His 7st ex glamour girls would have you on toast.
Not just Neville but regarding pundits and media coverage in general, watch 2 or 3 Utd matches without commentary. Then read or listen to the reports. It's ridiculous how differently I perceive games if I'm not being dragged into a certain direction or made aware of something I otherwise wouldn't care about.
In my mind, you can choose to watch a narrative guided match with commentary or you can enjoy it (or hate it) much better on your own terms. Ideally you can watch it with the crowd noise but without commentary.
I don't think even interesting in-game stats or facts make up for the distraction they cause. You can read up on all of that or listen to pundits before and after kickoff. You wouldn't go to the theatre or movies and listen to somebody else explain what's going on while it's happening, would you?
In my mind, you can choose to watch a narrative guided match with commentary or you can enjoy it (or hate it) much better on your own terms. Ideally you can watch it with the crowd noise but without commentary.
I don't think even interesting in-game stats or facts make up for the distraction they cause. You can read up on all of that or listen to pundits before and after kickoff. You wouldn't go to the theatre or movies and listen to somebody else explain what's going on while it's happening, would you?
Hopefully he’s not too critical of the players performance today.
Important to create a safe space for our current players where ex pundits are not critical of them. It will help them going forward.
Important to create a safe space for our current players where ex pundits are not critical of them. It will help them going forward.
Yes lots of them need a safe space alright. Nice and easy and safe, far from Old Trafford.
I’m sure if he was a real fan, not a dimwit and under 40 years old he’d just talk about the positives
Exactly. It must have his critical words that has caused this shocking first half performance at Goodison.
Positive affirmation only for this lot.
@tomaldinho1
Why are you so rattled?
It not me that is rattled. Its these players, who according to you are "hugely impacted" by external criticism.
So rattled you’ve come back to restart the conversation. Rent free in your head I guess.
We’ll see how the media frame it and can discuss but we’ve seen these players be much better than this, let’s see if it’s all lumped on them.
Just make sure you do your best to protect them when Gary Neville criticises them. Because, you know, he according to you is playing a "huge" part in our current pleight.
Rio - "never seen a United team this bad"
You going to start a Rio pundit thread now?
Here he is officers
Indeed
Game is literally on and you’re so riled you posting here. Can discuss after the game but we’ve just scored which might piss you off.Just make sure you do your best to protect them when Gary Neville criticises them. Because, you know, he according to you is playing a "huge" part in our current pleight.
Rio - "never seen a United team this bad"
You going to start a Rio pundit thread now?
The only point I can see about Neville's criticism (which I think has been completely valid) is a point that a lot of united fans seem to do on here as well. It's easy to have fight and desire when you are playing for a legendary manager like Sir Alex. Neville never had to play under Moyes for example, Rio did and no amount of fight or desire made that team any better. Players lose confidence in the manager and the tactics if the manager isn't good enough whether tactically or from a man management perspective. The very same players who had fight and desire under Sir Alex like Vidic, Rio, Evra, Carrick etc also gave up under Moyes near the end. Its a natural part of football. Its the manager's job to manage motivation and get the players confident in the tactics and his approach. If these players right now are showing no desire or fight its because the manager has failed. The only reason you haven't seen it more often at United in the past isn't because we've always had mentality monsters, its because we had one of if not the greatest manager ever.
Why would the team scoring a goal piss someone off just because they have a different opinion on a pundit than you? This forum is mental
Trying to point score instead of watched the game tells me a lot about a poster.
And i guess it must be your secretary posting for you here, while youre watch the game?
You tagged me and got the notification, fire away. I take solace in the fact for whatever reason our conversation from last week has been playing on your mind so much.
Agree.
Because i agree with Gary Neveils criticism that i must also want United to lose!!!
I always find when when people have to resort to saying "im living rent free in your head" then they have usually run out of anything constructive to say.
Its today's equivalent of "i know you are, but what am I"
I just saw this comment....
And it reminded my of your desire for no ex United player to criticise United players because of its "huge impact".
You keep replying…we haven’t even seen how the media react yet. Bit sad but it’s fine, happy to discuss once we get the actual reaction though.