Gareth Southgate

Another tournament of barely beating the smaller nations to go far because of a favorable draw, only to be fully outplayed the first time they play against a top team.

England, don't be dumb and don't waste this generation of players.
 
He shit the bed. He had a really favourable group and knockout draw up to the final. He didn’t really find a system that played to the strengths of his players and wasn’t ruthless enough when players were underperforming.

The funny thing is that, given the embarrassment of riches up front, you’d have thought the defence would have been the weak link in the team but they were fairly solid throughout.
 
SuperiorXI said:
This game was a great example of the saying that teams reflect their managers.

We equalise, you think the momentum is with us, go and get the winner... wrong. Time to bring on Gallagher and concede any possession to the opposition.
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We might not have conceded the goal had Gallagher actually been on the pitch though. We conceded with the more attacking team.
 
He's seemingly good with the man management and creating an atmosphere. England done better and been lucky some times.

Did he ever beat a decent team in tournament football though? I think England lost the xG in every single knockout game this Euros.

Tactically he's at zero, in club football he likely won't do anything.
 
GoldanoGraham said:
At least he will do the right thing and resign after this.
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He will do what he did last time. “Take some time off to reflect on his decision” and then stay on.

FA have to take the decision out of his hands, he’s had more than enough chances now it’s time for a modern attacking manager that these players are used to playing under.
 
Redivy said:
I don’t understand his tactics. He sets up low but doesn’t have any fast players up top to use as outlets.
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Exactly. United was like a cobra in that FA Cup final—against a dangerous team.

Southgates England was like a Hedgehog- curled up into a defensive ball.
 
Morpheus 7 said:
England would have won this tournament with a good manager. Southgate has cost them, awful shame.
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Just like all the 22 other teams did ? International football is mostly random and there’s hardly any guarantees who would win regardless of manager
 
Can’t stand this over rated charlatan. We got to two finals in spite of him and his piss poor football lost us two finals. Shitbag.
 
crossy1686 said:
You create your own luck by winning games and getting in positions where things are more likely to happen for you.

You could argue that England would have been better off playing the likes of Germany who would be more open without any real quality or organisation, or France who hadn't scored a goal in open play all tournament until their semi against Spain and relied heavily on a broken nosed Mbappe.

The format of this Euros means you can go through the group stage without winning a game, where's the incentive to play open when it's huge for a team like Slovenia (population of 1.2m people) to just get out of the group? If you can't go toe to toe with bigger teams, at least be hard to beat and stay in the game. Most teams have done that in this competition and some other teams have been a lot worse than England have been.
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told you.
 
England will never get over the hump with Southgate. Time to make a bold change at manager….Jose Mourinho!
 
bosnian_red said:
Another tournament of barely beating the smaller nations to go far because of a favorable draw, only to be fully outplayed the first time they play against a top team.

England, don't be dumb and don't waste this generation of players.
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100%.

The results on paper don't even look that bad. They're even acceptable IMO...but the performances aren't. Both in the finals and on the road to them. I'm pretty sure the general consensus would be much better about Southgate if England achieved the same results in the last 4 international tournaments, but actually played attacking football, looked to dominate their opponents and weren't so cowardly and defensive in their approach and tactical setups.
 
Will be funny when they finally do bin him off for a good manager, then immediately draw a World Cup group of Spain, Brazil 1970 and Real Madrid.
 
TheGame said:
This is a good Spain team but that Italian team was abysmal. We should not have lost to them.
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According to the bookies, England were favorites in 2021, and underdogs in 2024, albeit slight underdogs, and I would agree with that. Still, losing both finals isn't the biggest issue IMO, it's how they lost them. And how they got to them.
 
Thank god United didn’t appoint him as our manager!!! Negative football with the handbrake on when there’s some really talented players. Shaw was excellent. Kobbie had some nice moments but found it tough. Rice was absolutely awful.
 
Ayush_reddevil said:
Just like all the 22 other teams did ? International football is mostly random and there’s hardly any guarantees who would win regardless of manager
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No excuse for the football played by him. I'm just glad the bum didn't win it. Be united manager if ETH was let go by Christmas. You know he would too.
 
The quality of the players has surpassed his ability by a long way. When he took over his good man management and very basic tactics were enough to do well with a limited squad. But now he has much more quality at his disposal he seems lost and is more of a hindrance, perfectly summed up by him be so bemused about what to do without Kalvin Phillips.
 
Nothing will make me more hopeful for the coming season than knowing Sir Southgate is tied down to England for more years and we dont have to worry when the wheels come off and are looking for a new manager.
 
Roboc7 said:
The quality of the players has surpassed his ability by a long way. When he took over his good man management and very basic tactics were enough to do well with a limited squad. But now he has much more quality at his disposal he seems lost and is more of a hindrance, perfectly summed up by him be so bemused about what to do without Kalvin Phillips.
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Very good post, exactly this. This isn’t the World Cup in 2018 with Lingard in midfield.
 
Constantly shows in the bigger games why he’s so out of his depth. A wimp of a man. Smashes his way through qualifying every time and then shits himself when he needs to show some bravery.
 
Rojofiam said:
100%.

The results on paper don't even look that bad. They're even acceptable IMO...but the performances aren't. Both in the finals and on the road to them. I'm pretty sure the general consensus would be much better about Southgate if England achieved the same results in the last 4 international tournaments, but actually played attacking football, looked to dominate their opponents and weren't so cowardly and defensive in their approach and tactical setups.
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Yup. This tournament was actually extremely bad from them from a performance perspective, far worse than the previous.
  • Serbia - weak opponent, grinded out a win but was a nothing game
  • Denmark - nothing game with no chances either way, draw
  • Slovenia - nothing game with no chances either way, draw
  • Slovakia - last minute bicycle kick to save the game after a horrid performance, extra time win
  • Switzerland - horrid performance, won on pens after again last minute equalizer
  • Netherlands - only good performance of the tournament, deserved the win for the first half alone, nothing second half (last minute winner though)
  • Spain - came to defend, and got outplayed
They can't even dominate weak teams. It's just grinding through mediocre opposition and a favorable draw
 
feck Gareth Southgate and feck Harry Kane.


Southgate has cost us two Euro titles..we.would have definitely beaten Italy no question,.today, well at least Spain were the better side and even though England could have won, losing to them.is.easier to take than losing to an aged Italian side who failed to qualify for the world cup.

I can't be arsed to go in to his faults. We all know them and have seen them over four tournaments that we could have won if we had a manager who actually played to the teams strengths and was proactive instead of reactive and constantly negative in his approach.

In his defence though, Sven did the same as did Capello who both cost us with their negative approach. I just hope now we get a manager who will play English football and use the players properly not try all this defensive, negative bollocks that we have been forced.to endure for as long as I can remember.
 
Please will people who still support him wake up and realise he's guff. Once again England face a top side and once again they lose because of inept tactics.
 
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