This guy hasn't been interested in football for a long time now. He was dispensable for Zidane and prefered to sit and collect his wages to play golf in Madrid relaxedly, instead of trying to move elsewhere to keep himself active in elite competition. There's many wrong things with this guy, including permanent injuries and outrageous wages as well, without even being half the player he was some years ago. We are a joke if we're seriously interested, even if it was on loan. A loss of money and time.
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Whilst none of this is incorrect - it is possible for people to be completely unmotivated in a job, then move to a new place of work and become completely re-invigorated.
Happens to lots of people in everyday life. True it feels worse for Bale because he's doing something that any of us would give our right arm to do (not withstanding how that would actually limit our ability to do the actual job) but for him it is still a place of work.
Takes a decent penalty I suppose. He’s well past his sell by date though.
He did try and move. He was almost on the plane last summer. He’s not blame free in all of this, but Real have clearly not helped by wanting a big fee or him, and then when they agree to let him go, they change their minds.
Real have mismanaged this situation. Although it’s a lesson to all big clubs, that massing long term contract to those in the late 20’s is a big risk.
Yeah that's what I also mentioned earlier, folks not getting the fact that this is not a high risk deal, and better than getting someone in on permanent transfer and if they don't perform, pay them for another 5 years. Just get him in! It's a no brainer.
Exactly. Well put
Absolutely baffles me to see so many who have preached about the change in culture/approach of the club are so onboard with this signing. I'll be gutted if we sign him.
Signing the likes of Gareth Bale on loan - an experienced world-class footballer who's performed at every level of the game - is a risk-free punt that doesn't come around all too often.
Working alongside a young, talented, hungry frontline such as Martial, Rashford and Greenwood, along with a move back to England could be just the spark he needs to reinvigorate himself. We would be foolish to ignore this opportunity.
Clearly not since nearly scored a free kick and had 3 assist in his first game.
It’s only a bloody loan. Don’t know why people are getting so worked up over it. We need a fecking right winger. Bale is it. After the season no one will care. Right back to the Sancho crap for 150m next summer.
Yeah I can't understand it either
It will be a mistake. He's also made of glass.
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Exactly.
We loaned Falcao for a season and he was feckin' crap... so then he left and that was that. Didn't exactly leave the club reeling or anything.
Plus at least with Bale, if he's crap, we still have Mason to play instead
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People just don't get it. Yes, if there are better options I would take it but we don't.
Other options are Perisic or Coutinho who are not right wingers anyway.
It could be, but motivation won't save him from spending weeks (if not months) injured on the stands as it always happens. There seems to be another problem with this man, as he's (apparently) so intolerant with pain, so he refuses to be on the field as soon as he feels the slightlest thing, probably afraid of getting broken again.
A player who wasn't comfortable playing on the right according to himself, and that was when he was a speed machine. Nowadays without that energy and acceleration he's not even 50 % of the player we all knew. Adding also that switching on again at the top competition after so much time disconnected is not that easy. We can't expect a player in these conditions to fill the hole even if it was for one season.
Bale at the moment would be a bet with many question marks. We need assurances to keep moving forward and he can't offer them in any sense.
Oh well that settles it then. I’ll keep an eye out for him in the team of the year.
I just chuckled reading this post. You talking about injuries and assuming Bale won't be the one injured is hilarious
Bale would most likely long be in the physio room next to Jones before any of the other 3 succumb to injury therefore rendering your scenarios unlikely.
I can think of 300,000 downsides a week. We've just got rid of Sanchez on obscene wages for a past it player, why make the same mistake with Bale?
If we go for him, it'll be one of the few times that all of the transfer leverage would be ours, as Real need shot of him badly. So, we should be able to get him on very favourable terms. And yet, with everything weighted in our favour, I'd still back us to somehow feck it up and get a poor deal.
I want Sancho like the next person, but am also fascinated by what Bale could do with a change of scenery and comes back to the PL, that i wouldn't mind waiting a year for it to happen if we get Bale on loan (if terms are favourable).
Getting Sancho as well in January is also a possiblity if Dortmund begin to sweat on the price with no matchday revenue coming in.
Igahlo would also leave in Jan and Bale can than double up as a striker, so there is a scenario where we could have both at the same time.
The whole golf thing and making him out to be a diva is beyond embarrassing, drummed up by the Spanish press and latched onto by easily manipulated people.
Moving to Span and not really learning the language and integrating is problematic if other European clubs wanted to sign him, but how is it one if he comes back to England? Did he have history of this at Spurs or when he joins up with Wales? No, so why do people keep peddling on with this nonsense?
Getting Sancho as well in January is also a possiblity if Dortmund begin to sweat on the price with no matchday revenue coming in.
Igahlo would also leave in Jan and Bale can than double up as a striker, so there is a scenario where we could have both at the same time.
The whole golf thing and making him out to be a diva is beyond embarrassing, drummed up by the Spanish press and latched onto by easily manipulated people.
Moving to Span and not really learning the language and integrating is problematic if other European clubs wanted to sign him, but how is it one if he comes back to England? Did he have history of this at Spurs or when he joins up with Wales? No, so why do people keep peddling on with this nonsense?
He isn’t just going to rediscover his explosive acceleration and power. That’s gone. He’s a desperate last minute Ighalo type option for the right wing, absolutely not what we need at all. He’s the total opposite of Sancho and would be yet another example of everything we did wrong before getting into this mess. We’re looking at the name rather than how they’d fit into the system.
For everyone saying it’s just a loan, it stops us bringing in the right player now. Let’s say we add Bale and I’ll be optimistic and say we also add a lb.That means next summer to challenge for something we would still need a starting RW, CB, DM and a FAR better option than Ighalo up top. There’s absolutely no chance we’re doing that in one summer, and people on here will justify it and say how you can’t possibly expect all that in one window so it’ll be 2 years before we actually have a squad capable of challenging. Our first choice right winger is available now and wants to come. Go and sodding get him.
Firstly, this will just be a loan so we have the option of pulling the plug on it after a year. Secondly, I'd rather have an expensive option for RW for a year, than have no option at all.
Every transfer is different. Just because Sanchez didn't work, doesn't mean Bale won't. It's like people who say beware of buying Dortmund players because Kagawa and Mkhi flopped. Every transfer should be judged on its own merits, rather than trying to find parallels with past transfers.
I want Sancho like the next person, but am also fascinated by what Bale could do with a change of scenery and comes back to the PL, that i wouldn't mind waiting a year for it to happen if we get Bale on loan (if terms are favourable).
Getting Sancho as well in January is also a possiblity if Dortmund begin to sweat on the price with no matchday revenue coming in.
Igahlo would also leave in Jan and Bale can than double up as a striker, so there is a scenario where we could have both at the same time.
The whole golf thing and making him out to be a diva is beyond embarrassing, drummed up by the Spanish press and easily manipulated people are hooked onto it.
Moving to Span and not really learning the language and integrating is problematic if other European clubs wanted to sign him, but how is it one if he comes back to England? Did he have history of this at Spurs or when he joins up with Wales? No, so why do people keep peddling on with this nonsense?
He should move to England. He can pick up the language far easier
We never learn as fans do we...
What is the point in getting someone in on high wages who has a track record of being a disruptive force in the team again?
It's just repeating the Sanchez mistake all over again. Shocking recruitment if he comes.
It's just repeating the Sanchez mistake all over again. Shocking recruitment if he comes.
Tells you everything you need to know about the Caf. This place is littered with hypocrites who chose and preach about principles according to whatever arguments they're trying to argue and back.
Hell no, I don't want a player who has no ambition to play football at the best possible level he could. The man isn't motivated and was ready to go to China just to keep earning those ridiculous wages. He's way past his best form and right now we need a player who can deliver, not one who is full of unknowns.
I agree with this, I think Bale still has a lot to give.
Anytime I watch him for Wales he plays well and is capable of doing extraordinary things with a football.
It wasn’t that long ago he totally destroyed Ireland and scored a worldie, fit and motivated there’s not doubt he’s World Class.
A season long loan with wages subsidised is pretty much a great deal as we need a right winger. Worst can go wrong is we send him back if not good enough, Bayern has done it with James and Continho never did them any harm.
He may rediscover the wand of a left foot though... and his ability to score goals. True he may not be the speed demon he was once, but he's hardly slow either.
Plus I would hope that means we can then get a LB + one other position (CB or an attacker of some kind) with the money we haven't spent.
Also if we don't have the money to buy Sancho this year then there isn't much we can do apart from get some form of stop-gap and go again for him next year when we'll have more money and he may be cheaper with a year less left on his contract. If we can't afford Sancho this year - but he's definitely the man we want - it would make sense to wait for a year and just get something temporary in.
It'll still be an outlay of over £10m in wages when he'll likely spend good parts of it injured. Each transfer should be judged on its own merit but we've made plenty of these mistakes before and not just with Sanchez. If our scouting department can't identify anyone for the right wing other than Sancho and Bale then I'd rather spend 300k a week on a new department.
Agreed.. Even if we can't sign Sancho, Bale is a step in totally the wrong direction. I would rather buy/loan an experienced decent player to complement our team - Perisic would be much better if he is willing to come. But someone of his profile rather than Bale, who would just create imbalance in the team. Plus any deal with him has to be pay as you play which I am sure he and RM wouldn't agree to.
Loan or not that's not the point. This place is always up in arms preaching about attitude and culture yet the very same people are willing to quickly ignore that to sign some amateur golfer because in their minds they still think he's the player he was 4 years ago.
People will camp in here going through hoops and applying ridiculous mental gymnastic as to explain why we should go for Bale then turn around in another threads and criticise some of our players for their attitudes "body language", "disrespecting the club by allowing x, y or z agent to said this or that", "club culture", "mercenary", "playing for the badge" and so on.
Even on a loan I can't imagine why any self-respecting club would want to have a player who can stink up a place like Bale has been doing. A few years ago I'd have been over the moon at the thought of him coming here, but right now I can't think of many worse options. Maybe moving would change his attitude, maybe, but for how long? You'd always be walking on egg shells around him and we saw how much our squad can be effected by back mood under Jose.
It's not like ole hasn't loaned an experienced 30 year old to fill a gap. I love the change of culture and approach to be honest. Would do anything to sign sancho. But I don't see getting Bale on loan as against what we have been doing. If Glazers won't give ole the money this year to buy sancho. I can see him going for one of Bale or Perisic on loan. Rather that than signing someone like Brooks permanently.
I'd agree with you there, but unfortunately, a new scouting department won't solve our RW issue for the upcoming season.
I refuse to be grouped together with them fickle fans. I have dully learned my lesson and rightly praying for this to never happen under any circumstances.
When was the last time our scouting department unearthed a gem that wasn't for the U18s?
It's baffling people cant understand the concept of a loan...
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No way this happens. It's the complete opposite of every quality Ole has said he wants in the players he signs. It's media bollocks, much like Sancho.
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