Exactly. He’s a castoff for a reason. It isn’t like its hard to get along with your boss: do what he says. That Bale refuses to do so and instead prefers to act like a petulant child speaks volumes about him. One of the best things Ole brought was a pride and desire to be part of a team United. Don’t let a player, no matter how good, interfere with that.
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Exactly. He’s a castoff for a reason. It isn’t like its hard to get along with your boss: do what he says. That Bale refuses to do so and instead prefers to act like a petulant child speaks volumes about him. One of the best things Ole brought was a pride and desire to be part of a team United. Don’t let a player, no matter how good, interfere with that.
I'd be all for this, we need options in the final 3rd and if we cant get Sancho I think Bale (on loan and paying only a % of wages) would make sense. It means we can continue to bring Greenwood through without being reliant on him, and he'd be in and out of the side and get plenty of games.
I'm sure that if, and its obviously a big if, Ole is even considering bringing him back, it will be because he is 100% convinced from his communication with Bale and other due diligence that Bales head is in the right place
And probably by talking to his old mate Giggs.
He's demotivated because he's being pushed out of the club. And Madrid act like a dick when he agree to leave for the Chinese club, only to block the transfer.
If he comes here, he may be determined more than ever to prove Zidane wrong
Even on loan for 1 season? He's an upgrade on Dan James surely?
He would be injured all the time.
I feel it would be such an old school Woodward move to sign Bale.. Looks like Sancho is a bust, but there must be a younger quality right-winger available somewhere?
United fan? He's turned us down so many times or just stated that he's not interested in the media. He's the worst thing that could happen this summer. I said the same with Di Maria, Sanchez etc. Nobody agreed then either, until they watched them play footy for us.
Gareth Bale is absolutely not the right player for us. I'd hate it if we went down this road and I've been fearing it all summer. People will wish we signed Brooks in the end.
I’d imagine they’d go for Sancho next year and only want a 1 year rental
But if Sancho does want to come to us and it takes a year, what is the point in signing a young player for that position?
People say no competition etc but what if he simply wants to come to us and has to wait a year? Surely a 1 season loan for quality cover / competition is the smart move.
Not for Wales over the last 12-18 months he hasn’t been. Dan James is regularly the best Wales player on the pitch.
Yes almost certainly, if he felt that Giggs had Uniteds best interests at heart
I just wonder if the Sancho situation will be the same next year? They'll be other suitors with money and yet another protracted and fruitless negotiation period with Dortmund would be a waste of time.
What? He had 2 good games recently but that’s just flat out wrong. Bale is still our best player with ease.
Buy who?
I was just trying to point out to the other poster that I wasn't advocating for signing Bale, only to loan him as a stop gap for a season.
Ahhh right - yeah. Absolutely no way do we want to be stuck with his contract for longer than a year. I’d only want him on loan if Real eat some of his wages for us too.
We'll agree to disagree on that i think, I'm not as critical of James as most on here but he's no where near Bale at the moment.
ye, e just a weirdo golf twat innit? Zidane needs a pro, not some idiot Welshman who cares more about golf. Ya get me? Just wants the sun out there
To be fair, right now, once he gets match fit Bale is the better player - obviously a much more short term option though, so the financials would need to reflect that
Completely disagree with that. My footy WhatsApp group is full of people, myself included saying he’s finished after each Wales game over the last year. His influence is not even close to what it was under Giggs.
I don’t quite get why people find it so hard to believe a player at 31 can be miles away from what they were after seeing Rooney at this club. Bale relied far more on his explosiveness than Rooney too, his dribbling/passing has always been average for a top player. He’s a total Hail Mary play.
But they said that last year as well? If he comes back to England theres only really 1 choice for him, i cant see where the competition comes from.
I think 1 season of coronavirus will wake everybody up.
Since I am at home with the flu, I have far too much time to explain why I think Bale to United could be a good idea.
If it is not possible to get hold of Sancho this transfer window, and Solskjær wants to go for a temporary solution, then I think Bale is interesting. It is under the condition that Real pays AT LEAST half of his salary and that it is otherwise a loan agreement that minimizes the risk for Manchester United. Like Alexis Sanchez to Inter.
Just because we have been unlucky/incompetent with some older/injured players like Sanchez, Schweinsteiger, Falcao, etc., we cannot only buy players under the age of 25. At least from an outside perspective, it seems that Solskjær has introduced a much stricter regime when it comes to checking whether the players actually want to be here, something the club obviously lacked before. If Solskjær talks to Bale (and manager for Wales, Giggs) and is convinced that he is motivated, then this transfer has a very high potential. An example from this season is Perisic to Bayern. He was seen by most United fans as too old or a boring signing when Mourinho wanted him, but he played the semi-final in the CL for Bayern this season, and I dare say that he contributed a at least something to Bayern winning the cup. Zlatan was not too bad for United either, even though he may soon receive his pension.
As we all know, we do not have any good options behind Greenwood on the right wing. We can not enter a season where the club will fight for a place in the top 4 and CL, with a 19-year-old striker as the only real alternative in that position. By the way, I love Juan Mata, but unfortunately it he is a little bit to slow on the wing for him to be the first choice. Lingard and Peirera, do I need to say anything about these two? Daniel James is also far too unpolished, and I do not remember him having a good match on the right. He thrives best on the left.
Finally, it can be mentioned that there are quite a few examples of players who have left Real Madrid and done well above average. James Rodriguez to Everton is the latest example of that, although it is too early to say when it comes to him. But otherwise Ozil, Sneijder, Robben and Higuain can all be mentioned. Di Maria too, he just did not want to be in Manchester (cf. above that the club is now better at identifying whether players want to be here or not).
I think Bale has looked lively for Wales now in the Nations League, and it is only two seasons ago he single-handedly changed the CL final with two goals that I am one hundred percent sure that neither Andreas Pereira nor Jesse Lingard can do in their dreams. It is possible I am naive, but is it possible for a player like Bale to be so much worse in two seasons? We have to keep in mind that much of what comes from the press in Madrid is not exactly nuanced when it comes to players who are out in the cold.
If it is not possible to get hold of Sancho this transfer window, and Solskjær wants to go for a temporary solution, then I think Bale is interesting. It is under the condition that Real pays AT LEAST half of his salary and that it is otherwise a loan agreement that minimizes the risk for Manchester United. Like Alexis Sanchez to Inter.
Just because we have been unlucky/incompetent with some older/injured players like Sanchez, Schweinsteiger, Falcao, etc., we cannot only buy players under the age of 25. At least from an outside perspective, it seems that Solskjær has introduced a much stricter regime when it comes to checking whether the players actually want to be here, something the club obviously lacked before. If Solskjær talks to Bale (and manager for Wales, Giggs) and is convinced that he is motivated, then this transfer has a very high potential. An example from this season is Perisic to Bayern. He was seen by most United fans as too old or a boring signing when Mourinho wanted him, but he played the semi-final in the CL for Bayern this season, and I dare say that he contributed a at least something to Bayern winning the cup. Zlatan was not too bad for United either, even though he may soon receive his pension.
As we all know, we do not have any good options behind Greenwood on the right wing. We can not enter a season where the club will fight for a place in the top 4 and CL, with a 19-year-old striker as the only real alternative in that position. By the way, I love Juan Mata, but unfortunately it he is a little bit to slow on the wing for him to be the first choice. Lingard and Peirera, do I need to say anything about these two? Daniel James is also far too unpolished, and I do not remember him having a good match on the right. He thrives best on the left.
Finally, it can be mentioned that there are quite a few examples of players who have left Real Madrid and done well above average. James Rodriguez to Everton is the latest example of that, although it is too early to say when it comes to him. But otherwise Ozil, Sneijder, Robben and Higuain can all be mentioned. Di Maria too, he just did not want to be in Manchester (cf. above that the club is now better at identifying whether players want to be here or not).
I think Bale has looked lively for Wales now in the Nations League, and it is only two seasons ago he single-handedly changed the CL final with two goals that I am one hundred percent sure that neither Andreas Pereira nor Jesse Lingard can do in their dreams. It is possible I am naive, but is it possible for a player like Bale to be so much worse in two seasons? We have to keep in mind that much of what comes from the press in Madrid is not exactly nuanced when it comes to players who are out in the cold.
Some people just want to watch the world burn.
Are we all ready for our new no.7?
Chelsea could spend big again. The scousers could put some money up after not spending big for a while. Or they could sell Salah or Mane and bring in Sancho. There's a lot of things that could happen before next summer.
One thing for certain is that he's not desperate to join us, so it would be interesting to know what he actually wants in an ideal situation.
At the moment? James actually plays football while Bale has spent more time golfing than play football the last 2 years.
People making out this current Bale into some top class footballer when he's bordeline washed up. When was the last time he played decent football? Better yet when was the last time he actually played football for any considerable time.
I for the life of me can't wrap my head around why some people would want this guy here when he's clearly not worth it.
I don't see the point of spunking £30-40m or however much its going to cost to have Bale for a season when its probably less than that amount they're haggling about for Sancho.
Now i'd sooner we signed Sancho, that goes without saying really and im on the fence with regards to Bale on loan due to the fee's involved/fitness etc. However he could be incredibly motivated on a return to the EPL just so he can stick it to Madrid one more time and prove that theyre wrong to treat him how they have been.
Exactly. People always talk about how there'll be war from many clubs to acquire Sancho yet 2 years in a row we're still the only ones showing concrete and strong interest and I don't see that changing next year either.
He's most likely coming back to England and beyond us I don't see where else he'd go. Liverpool don't have the money nor need for him(Salah and Mane). Chelsea are well stacked now in attack while Pep doesn't want him back at City and these are the top English teams one would imagine could have been after him. This leaves us alone with the money and actual need for a RW.
This season or next I don't see much changing in regard to clubs interested in Sancho who can actually afford him(cheaper than this year).
He costs 300k+ per week and has had 13 separate injuries in the last 3 seasons.
I'd rather not pay and stick with the other welsh running merchant.
I just wonder if we have another season that is covid impacted if there will be less money / suitors in a years time
I can't see crowds back any time soon ... season ticket holders will want refunding and if travel restrictions remain in place quarantine etc then the European games could well be impacted and I suspect tv companies will be wanting big refunds
It could go either way and of course dorymund think in euros whilst we think in pounds and pound vs euro next summer... could be the same but could easily be 10% either way which could also make a big difference
I hope we get him this summer but if not and we are after him next summer I hope we have a deal agreed before the euros
Giggs will want him playing regular football before the Euro's so I'd imagine he'll say it's a great idea. Where in reality, I genuinely think he's a busted flush. And I'm Welsh.
Similar words were talked about Sanchez on here. People thought his form just dipped because he wanted out of Arsenal. See the pattern between these two cases?
Don’t forget Sanchez had a better injury record than Bale before he came here too.
There’s going to be dummies spat out all over the place as soon as it’s confirmed he’s coming here and then weekly crying when he misses a pass or doesn’t quite get back to help the defence in time.
Signing Bale on any form of deal is worse than signing no one. If we do this we have learned nothing.
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