Pedro ffs, we are no more in the 2011.
Gareth Bale
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Pedro ffs, we are no more in the 2011.
If we buying somebody from Madrid, surely we'd look at Isco first.
Still better then any of our wingers
I disagree with you Sam I see what you are getting at though. But I see Young revive the ball a dozen or so times on the wing 1 vs 1 30 yards from the byeline (Villa game) and never beat a man only feigning back to his right and crossing to a defender to head it out. Wasteful? Probably limited is more fairer, Bale would eat these situations up and free space up for our other attackers. Plus he would add a new dimension breaking forward from our own half with his drives and blistering pace. His shooting from outside the box and his free kicks would also add to our attack. If Bale is available we should sign him up unless Madrid are wanting more than they paid for him.
Or even better buy Bale replace him for Young in the 11 and put Di Maria back in the position he shined for Madrid? The one where we bought him for £60m as he was sensational that season.
He's not.
Apparently not private ones that take you door to door
What the hell for
We'd look to improve on position we actually need to improve in. We don't need another attacking midfielder/winger.
Big fan of his but where would he fit? We already have Mata doing what his role.
Sign Bale - get him on the left flank. He was devastating on the left for spurs from 2010 - 2012. Then they started moving him about, right wing, number 10 and so on and whilst he still score a lot of goals his best displays were as a left winger - closest thing to a peak Giggs i have seen.
Similar to Ronaldo when many agree he was a better player in 06-07 then when he went mental scoring a goal every game.
So Bale on the left for me with Di Maria playing inside of him would be a nightmere for any right back.
If Di Maria was to go then id offer him to PSG and bring Lucas Moura in so we have a different type of winger on the right hand side.
Similar to Ronaldo when many agree he was a better player in 06-07 then when he went mental scoring a goal every game.
So Bale on the left for me with Di Maria playing inside of him would be a nightmere for any right back.
If Di Maria was to go then id offer him to PSG and bring Lucas Moura in so we have a different type of winger on the right hand side.
07-08 was the season Ron went on to his 42 goals, wasn't it? 06-07 was when his all round game was probably at it's peak. Running, taking on and beating defenders. Assisting, scoring etc. But I think he still only managed around 20 goals that season (still immense for a "pure" winger though).
But yeah. Bale and Depay/AdM exchanging wings in a 4-3-3 next season would be mint.
Just the prices being thrown about. Selling them DDG represents our best chance of getting Bale, and getting a good price for DDG, IMO. DDG + 50m quid or something like that. Otherwise I can see Madrid getting DDG for a pittance
Thats what i meant. Probably didnt word it very well07-08 was the season Ron went on to his 42 goals, wasn't it? 06-07 was when his all round game was probably at it's peak. Running, taking on and beating defenders. Assisting, scoring etc. But I think he still only managed around 20 goals that season (still immense for a "pure" winger though).
But yeah. Bale and Depay/AdM exchanging wings in a 4-3-3 next season would be mint.
Just the prices being thrown about. Selling them DDG represents our best chance of getting Bale, and getting a good price for DDG, IMO. DDG + 50m quid or something like that. Otherwise I can see Madrid getting DDG for a pittance
2 things bother me about Bale, despite the fact I think he's a game winner and would flourish in a team whom affords him in lone free role,
1. his price, obviously... I mean dropping 80-100mill on him, would bring instant success unlike someone you would have to groom, but thats a fair chunk of change that you may feel could have been put to better use on developing a younger prospect, once Bale starts to lose his speed and explosive style when entering the 30's.
2. His durability, it feels like to me he's prone to picking up a few knocks a season and missing game time, unlike say... a Ronaldo who's basically fit.. always.
1. his price, obviously... I mean dropping 80-100mill on him, would bring instant success unlike someone you would have to groom, but thats a fair chunk of change that you may feel could have been put to better use on developing a younger prospect, once Bale starts to lose his speed and explosive style when entering the 30's.
2. His durability, it feels like to me he's prone to picking up a few knocks a season and missing game time, unlike say... a Ronaldo who's basically fit.. always.
Yeah, re-read your sentence and it's (sorta) clear that that's what you meant
Would he flourish in a strict LVG tactical display ? Having 65 to 70 % the ball every game is good for somebody like him ?
I thought that Di Maria would have been an absolute crack here, but it seems that he's too wasteful for LVG, and I can't see Bale playing with us and only making passes.
He needs space, the ball and beating opponents to let his talent flourish.
Anyway IF we manage to have Bale + Di Maria in the same team next year, there’s no doubt that we’ll be very tough to beat… But it’s all down to LVG
I thought that Di Maria would have been an absolute crack here, but it seems that he's too wasteful for LVG, and I can't see Bale playing with us and only making passes.
He needs space, the ball and beating opponents to let his talent flourish.
Anyway IF we manage to have Bale + Di Maria in the same team next year, there’s no doubt that we’ll be very tough to beat… But it’s all down to LVG
He certainly doesn't seem like the right sort of player for our formation. It really would surprise me if LVG wants Bale, but I have a feeling Woodward will buy him whether LVG agrees or not.
Anyone seen this nonsense yet? 
http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/sport/football/6431373/Bale-n-Haz-swap.html
http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/sport/football/6431373/Bale-n-Haz-swap.html
Di Maria to PSG
Bale to UTD
Reus to Real Madrid
Bale to UTD
Reus to Real Madrid
Would not bet my house on it but stranger things happened.
Before reus signed that new contract last month i think this would be a probable scenario.
When was the last time we were linked to Bale by a credible source ?
In that Scenario Real would use the Bale Money to get him. Anything above 50 Mio EUR might be hard to resist for Dortmund.
Thats exactly what Di Maria is fantastic at. But in our current set up, he gets very few (if any) opportunities to do that in a game. Why would it be any different for Bale?
Think Di Maria would benefit greatly from being in the same team as Bale. Di Maria's best season came from breaking deep from midfield with players in front of him this season he's played as a winger in which he is not much better than Nani.
I agree. But I doubt we'll see Di Maria in midfield for LVG again, any time soon.
If this Madrid ban is upheld, do Madrid sell Bale to fund a spending spree?
Is this why we are reportedly keeping Depay on the back burner as a reserve?
Why am I asking so many questions?
Is this why we are reportedly keeping Depay on the back burner as a reserve?
Why am I asking so many questions?
Why would you care what he's going to be doing in his 30's?
For 80-100 million you'd want a number of good years out of a player? surely? RvP is only 31 and looks ready for the glue factory, we basically got 1 good season out of his 24mill transfer and 200k a week wages... not saying it wasnt worth it, but ideally you want some longterm value with your cash?
or am i reading your question wrong?
He's 25, unlike RVP when we signed him. He's got +-6 years left of his pace. 6 years is a long time in football. If he comes in, tears it apart for 6 years, why would you care about what he'll do after that? 33/34/35 year olds don't contribute much at the very highest level of club football.
He's 26 by the time next season kicks off, thats 4 years until he hits 30, i'd be more worried in his case just due to his style, his game is built on speed and power, physical statistics as much as technical ability or whatever, if he starts to trail off, I doubt he has the all round game to reinvent himself in another position ala Giggs/Scholes in later years.
I take your point, 5 or so years is a long time in football, but I'd still be careful, we're talking 80-100mill, you want a lot of years performance for that kind of figure.
Jesus, 25 is too old now? Let's just sign teenagers only shall we?
Love how some gloss over what was actually written, the type of player he is, he relies heavily upon physical, athletic qualities and just his pure explosiveness, qualities which more often that not erode faster than players with other characteristics to their game, you know, such as footballing awareness, technical ability, vision and so on, thats why players like Giggs & Scholes were able to go on so long, and reinvent themselves, similarly someone like Messi you could imagine if he lost his pace, could function in a deeper creative role, Bale.. not so much,
again, we're not talking 30mill, 50mill we'd be talking 80 to 100 for his few peak years.
Edit just to add to attempt to clear up what I meant further, I would sanction that type of huge money for a DDG or the like, simply because he could go on until he's 40, so obviously not everyone deemed already at their peak would be offlimits, just from an obvious stand point. similarly, a player in a similar vein as a Carrick I would purchase regardless of age, because his whole game since his youth has been built upon mental aspects more-so than physical, and why he's still looking to be improving the older he gets with us. etc I cant see the same being true of Bale, you'd have a more strict peak period before a decline.
again, we're not talking 30mill, 50mill we'd be talking 80 to 100 for his few peak years.
Edit just to add to attempt to clear up what I meant further, I would sanction that type of huge money for a DDG or the like, simply because he could go on until he's 40, so obviously not everyone deemed already at their peak would be offlimits, just from an obvious stand point.
similarly, a player in a similar vein as a Carrick I would purchase regardless of age, because his whole game since his youth has been built upon mental aspects more-so than physical, and why he's still looking to be improving the older he gets with us. etc I cant see the same being true of Bale, you'd have a more strict peak period before a decline.
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With the way he plays a patient build up Sam buddy I think you are correct. I think he would be the difference in European games as he's so hard to contain from this position. He picks the ball up beats a midfielder (who are not used to this type of player) and suddenly it's chaos as he is running at your centre halfs. As s winger he's around Nani level.
I hope we don't end up with Bale. I see it as a massive risk with the fees involved. I don't think he's good enough to live up to his price tag or anything near it.
Too simple. Lets try this:
Di Maria to PSG
Bale to United
Hazard to Madrid
Reus to Chelsea
Draxler to Dortmund
I partially agree. I think he's great (thought I think that he has never been on top 10 players int he world) and very suited to this league, but Bale and posession football doesn't sound very possible.
He would be worth every penny in my opinion.
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