Or ideally just get Di Maria back to top form and it'd be like a perfect new signing. Swapping for Verratti would be stupid as Di Maria is worth a lot more, even if he had a bad season.
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Nah, I disagree with that.
Verratti would be a proper dream signing, a young, World Class player that'd be perfect for us under Van Gaal.
I'd happily swap di Maria and cash for Verratti, in fact.
I think a straight swap would be more reasonable.
Is he psg,s best player ?
I don't agree in saying that is stupid....have you seen Veratti play?
He is exactly what we need in the cm and should be a target for us.
Veratti plus some cash would be ideal.
He is definitely their best midfielder and is the future of the Italian midfield.
Good to see quality young Italian players. Seriously it just feels surreal seeing the lack of talent there compared to how it used to be.
Ain't that the truth....the 90's were amazing for Italian football.....but seriously if we have a shot a Veratti, we should take it.....he is exactly what we need.
He's class, but this is di maria we're talking about, a year ago he was talked about as one of the top 10 in the world and was leading real madrid to la decima. People tend to forget how good he can be because he has been poor for a while, but he's still worth over 40m and PSG would definitely offer that. Is Verratti worth 50m? Definitely not, at least not yet.
You are right, Di Maria is still worth more than Veratti, a straight swap wouldn't be a good deal for us unless they add some £££'s on top of it.
If he has another bad season, his value will half, even though here will always be cash flush suitors in the PL for him.
Looking at Van Gaal's style of football, and how easily teams figured us out this season once we hit some kind of form, we need players who can pick a lock - Bale isn't that.
We've seen with di Maria how a Real Madrid counter attacker works with Van Gaal's possession football.
I'd rather we spent our money elsewhere to be honest.
We've seen with di Maria how a Real Madrid counter attacker works with Van Gaal's possession football.
I'd rather we spent our money elsewhere to be honest.
http://www.manchestereveningnews.co...anchester-united-gareth-bale-transfer-9379702
http://www.independent.co.uk/sport/...-gareth-bale-and-raphael-varane-10293448.html
Reports of £110m being rejected by Madrid for Bale and Varane. Pretty substantial really.
http://www.independent.co.uk/sport/...-gareth-bale-and-raphael-varane-10293448.html
Reports of £110m being rejected by Madrid for Bale and Varane. Pretty substantial really.
So what...around £80m for Bale, £30m for Varane? Sounds pretty fair. Wouldn't want us to go too much higher to be honest.
If there's any truth to these rumours we're interested in Bale then surely we've gotta be trying to use DDG as some kind of leverage. We don't have much leverage due to the circumstances, but the idea of keeping DDG for another year is surely worth something. They want to get this deal wrapped up.
Perhaps this is why we still haven't heard anything concrete about Dave?
Perhaps this is why we still haven't heard anything concrete about Dave?
I wouldn't be surprised if that were the case to be honest. Actual "swap" deals are rare, but surely their will be discussions when represnetatives of the respective clusb get together.
80mn for Bale would be way too much, especially after his last season and how the fans turned against him. I wouldnt pay more than 65mn. 30mn for Varane is fair though, he's a huge talent.
Im hoping FSW is trying to convince Perez that Chech is the man after he worked with him at Chelsea... its a long shot though.
Given FSW reputation for rather defensive football though you do have to wonder (presuming Ronaldo is safe) who will miss out - Benzema, Bale, Rodriguez, Isco, Kroos, Modric... you have to think if he is going to play a defencive midfielder then perhaps two of them will regularly find themselves on the bench - and in the past he did struggle to deal with some of the stars at inter so there could be some scope for giving players an exit route (modric / kroos anybody?)
I sighed big time inwardly when I read the rumoured 110m rejected bid. It's so unlike us to just slam down cash like that. Also, I'm not sold on Bale.
That should close the debate for me. Bale is totally inept at playing in a system where possession football rules.
AVB Spurs played some of the slowest possession football seen in the PL and Bale ripped it up.
For me, Bale must play through the middle as our 9 if we sign him. He has the speed, power, size and finishing for it. Not the best close dribbler though and I think he'll be less effective on the wing. Obviously, he is no target man. Nor is Aguero. Nor is Suarez, or was Henry etc. I see him being in that mould of striker for us, he'd score loads and terrorise defences if he comes here.
He is absolutely shit as a #9, he doesn't have the instinct of a striker, his movements are bad and his feet aren't quick enough in the box.
Yep. Tottenham fans were complaining about many of the same things that we were. "Tedious" "sideways passing" etc. They were like a less capable version of us, with an even higher defensive line (thus less space).
Dont want Bale, People rave about his scoring record at Spurs....a lot of players could match that if they took a shot almost every single time they had the ball.
If that was true, then more players would be matching his record.
But they aren't.
Why don't they then? It would probably help out their teams.
why not? he's of the best at his position, no?
I think he could excel in the role. You don't need Hazard-like feet to be a top striker, you do to be a top winger. As for his 'movement' - again, that is more for a certain type of striker. In a fluid three with Depay and Di Maria, he can just float around and cause trouble.
Many people think Rooney is best as a 9, but he spends half of the game in central midfield.
So you're saying he isn't a top winger?
He's a top forward, but the qualities that make him a top player aremore greatly weighted to the 'striker' half of his 'forward' duties, as opposed to the 'midfielder' part. The fact that he has these qualities make him a top player, but he is not optimised as a winger as he struggles to beat players and he's not the most creative player.
He and Hazard are both top forwards, but Hazard is a better 'winger', Bale is better at the 'striker' stuff expected of a winger.
So Bale is an inside forward, and Hazard is more wide support?
You don't need hazard feet but you need to at least have Giroud's feet, Bale isn't a striker, he is a wide forward.
Edit: Being a great striker isn't about being a great finisher, it's about being able to adjust your position in fraction of second, adjust your stepping in a fraction of second, running in the right space at the right time.
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Mainly because every time he makes that stupid heart symbol thingy it irritates me to the point where I want to rip his fingers off and insert them in him.
He's poor in the air and isn't someone who's much good at bringing others into play. I don't think excellent pace and long range shooting is enough to be a striker, his attributes are better suited to a wide position given that he crosses well too.
After the way he has been treated by the Madrid fans you'd think he would cut that shit out...they got no love for Bale over there.
According to Daily Express we offering Real 204 million euros for Bale and Varane 
Even better that Real has no interest at all to sell one of them.
Even better that Real has no interest at all to sell one of them.
Bale would be a great signing, dream like in fact.
He is premier league proven, a match winner, an athlete and he's young. No brainer really. Are people actually forgetting what he is capable of?
He is premier league proven, a match winner, an athlete and he's young. No brainer really. Are people actually forgetting what he is capable of?
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