Yeah, I thought the same myself to be honest. Poor in the 2nd, though.
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Yeah, I thought the same myself to be honest. Poor in the 2nd, though.
The first thing I've thought of
But seriously I won't give credit to these stats, there are quite a few factors
But seriously I won't give credit to these stats, there are quite a few factorsRVP was absolutely key to a team regaining the title. Gareth Bale was absolutely key in a team going from 4th to 5th. It showed the importance of Modric, not Bale. It'd be like handing Kane the POTY this year, both times he was a worth YPOTY.
I couldn't quite understand the inter-relevance of your statements
What did the agent say?
It reminds me of when Scott Parker was getting accolades for 'carrying West Ham' as they got relegated. Bale carried Spurs to the same place they always finish anyway. Suarez last season was much more of a 'carrying' figure as he genuinely almost carried a similarly average bunch to a title.
If Bale was playing like Hazard is today he'd be getting pelters.
They need someone to blame and at his price hes an easy target. Ronaldo had a period of getting stick from their pathetic fans, despite his goal scoring record.
Hazard's season has ended, while Bale has everything to fight for
I tend to agree with this. I do think Hazard has been the most underwhelming player to win the POTY award since Bale won it back in 10/11. In terms of pure numbers, Hazard's are lower than Nani's in 2010/11 (Bale's first). Nani in 10/11 had 27 combined goals + assists, from 3 (including the current Chelsea game) less games than Hazard has played and wasn't his teams penalty taker (Hazard has 23 combined). Even in a supposedly poor season Bale is just one goal short of Hazard. I just don't see why Hazard is so highly rated, he's clearly a very good player, but he's still a step or two below the very best around today.
To be fair to Hazard he does more apart from goals and assists than Bale.
I'd say they're more or less at a similar level. Both are well below Neymar/Robben/Suarez.
Nani was fecking robbed that season purely because of media narrative
I agree though Hazard has been the most underwhelming winner for a while. By best player in the premier league standards I think he has been slightly overrated if I'm being totally honest.
I don't buy that. Hazard hasn't just decided he's going to take it easy, having just tracked back to win the ball on the edge of his box proves it.
I wasn't really wanting to wade into the who's better debate, it just seems like Bale gets a harder ride here for some reason.
Hazard is more like a Ribery though, he's more of a playmaker and helps control the flow of a game.. you can't measure his quality through pure statistics for me, which kind of makes Messi seem even more mind-bogglingly brilliant.
Agreed. Which is why Bale tends to cop a fair bit if he's not producing numbers in the 30s. Still believe that if Bale came here he'd be putting up big numbers.
Nani was fecking robbed that season purely because of media narrative
I agree though Hazard has been the most underwhelming winner for a while. By best player in the premier league standards I think he has been slightly overrated if I'm being totally honest.
I agree, I think he deserved the award but I don't think he's the best player in the league. Aguero takes it by a fair distance for me. As above, I think Bale would battle Aguero for best in the league.
We need to be fair though. 30s are absolutely huge numbers. And everyone at Madrid seems to have to play to servant to Ronaldo unlike the treatment say, an Aguero would get.
I reckon he would hit 15+goals and 10+ assists easily. If he's unhappy in anyway then we should be trying our best to sign him.
Everyone would want him.
"Technically lacking" is such a bullshit statement.
He is not lazy whatsoever. Check his distance covered stats.
I think we will be willing to throw more cash down than anyone for him. If he leaves, we will be favourites to land him imo.
He was born to be a United superstar - the only truly top draw domestic talent in ten years. Tragic that we missed out on him.
Those dont look like very good statistics. Bale matured as a player far later than Hazard who was great in France before as well.
I'd like to see a comparison of their statistics over their best two seasons per 90 minutes.
*heads off stat finding*
Sorry, I meant combined goals and assists, not goals alone, I don't think he's miles away from that despite his poor season. Agreed he suffers from the Ronaldo treatment.
You must not watch him much.
I think it's pretty obvious that Bale didn't fully hit his stride until his last season in the PL. I bet if you take their most recent seasons and not just nitpick at Bale's PL ones, it'd be a different story.
It looks like he's lacking in those areas now but on the other hand, his form and confidence is probably low. I guarantee you neither manager would turn down the chance to sign him. Each manager has an ego that they can get the best out of a player.
Feck squawka and my inability to take screeshots.
he blamed his teammates for not passing him the ball enough which led to the dip in his play this yr.I couldn't quite understand the inter-relevance of your statements
Bale should have expected that coming to a team with Ronaldo who is okay with an attacking teammate getting the ball only when he doesn't want it. And he wants it all the fkcing time
You could generate your comparison and then simply post the link.
"Gareth Bale is becoming isolated at Real Madrid because he can't speak Spanish"
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/fo...ale-isolated-Real-Madrid-t-speak-Spanish.html
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/fo...ale-isolated-Real-Madrid-t-speak-Spanish.html
Wow, his agent sounds like a really sensitive guy.
His agent will do him no favors moaning about his teammates like that.
That can't be right mate. Are you sure about those stats?
Why does his agent talk to the press so much? Just shut up.
His agent is stirring suitors me thinks
Who's briefing the English press about Bale's desire to stay at Madrid then? Almost every paper has ran that story.
Bale had 37 goals in those 3 league campaigns and funnily enough Hazard has 37 in his first 3 league seasons in England. Dunno about assists
Interesting indeed. Iirc the last 2 seasons before he left were the best for Bale, the season before that he wasn't anything special.
Bale in his last years at Spurs was a monster. Hazard is playing in the best side in England, Bale played in a average Spurs side that he carried.
Hazards playing better at the moment, but if Bale played in England again I think he'd do better than Hazard, especially if he was at a better side than Spurs.
Hazards playing better at the moment, but if Bale played in England again I think he'd do better than Hazard, especially if he was at a better side than Spurs.
To be fair to Bale here, Hazard is playing with better players than Bale was, which helps his numbers. Like Bwuk says.
They were talking about this on The Sunday Supplement and Antonio Valencia came up, they said after nearly 7 years in England he still cant speak English which is absolutely mind boggling to me.
It's painfully obvious how many here don't watch him when they keep saying he's one of the best players in the world and all that. Nowhere close. He's a good goalscorer, and a reliable source of goals when playing out wide which is a great attribute to have, but other then his shooting from range and his finishing, the only parts of his game that are above average at all are his physical attributes. Without those, he'd be a mid table player IMO. His dribbling, passing and crossing is all decent at best really, he just uses his pace and strength to run past people when given the space. He's not a really smart or creative player or something like that like some others, again, that's all just decent at best.
Always maintain that his last season at Spurs was incredibly overrated because he banged in like 5 or 6 game winners from long range. He scored 21 goals in the league, which is obviously really good, but people make it out as if he was unplayable or just had a ridiculous season, which it definitely wasn't. If he had an unbelievable season, then Spurs would have made the champions league that year ahead of a very weak arsenal side instead of finishing 5th.
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