Gareth Bale

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Hardly top class for 2/3 seasons. He was brilliant for Spurs but last season he wasn't top class - great considering it was his first at a new club but he regressed in 14/15 instead of kicking on.

wdf, he was brilliant last season. Well, every time I watched him play he impressed.

And even if he has regressed this season, he's got 14 goals in 31 games, which is a pretty damn good.
 
He was never worth more than about £45m. He just sometimes looks like he is because of the way he plays - when he does something good it looks really good.

He's obviously never gonna go for anything close to that now though.
 
wdf, he was brilliant last season. Well, every time I watched him play he impressed.

And even if he has regressed this season, he's got 14 goals in 31 games, which is a pretty damn good.

I watched the majority of his games and he wasn't top class over the season (you're obviously entitled to disagree). He had a season that you can praise him for considering his injury problems at the start and having to settle into a new club. It was hardly brilliant though, he spent a lot of his matches on the periphery and he struggled in tight spaces.

He was productive then and he is still productive now, but his performances at Real Madrid haven't matched his output. The fans there are right to expect more given his cost, and I'm not surprised that they're annoyed when he refuses to track pass as well as his recent selfish play on the ball.

Suárez has been similar this season, look at his goals and assists alone and it looks like he's done well but the performances say otherwise.
 
Funny part is if he was at Atletico he'd probably be competing for the ballon d'or, sadly for him he isn't. Them driving him out of the club can only be a positive for us.
 
Anyone stop to consider that is so called "bad form" this season may be down the fact he knows the club want him out? Just a thought.

I think if we did get him we shouldn't pay any more than we did for Di Maria as they want to sell, and I also don't see it stopping us bringing in Memphis which will surely mean a switch to 4-3-3.
 
Bale is not even worth 60m right now. He's very powerful and fast, good at free kicks, but he's very limited with passing/combinations and without spaces. His biggest problem is his cost. I really don't think the club wants him out, specially considering the amount paid just recently (including rumoured 15m CL winning bonus for Tottenham). There's no way they are getting anything close to that much back. He also has a very long contract with very high salary, difficult to earn that amount somewhere else.

Suárez has been similar this season, look at his goals and assists alone and it looks like he's done well but the performances say otherwise.

I'd say the opposite about Suárez: his numbers are poor (though his assists are starting to pile up quickly) but he's added plenty to the team and has been essential in almost every big game he's played.
 
Perhaps Spurs may take him back for half the money they sold him

He didn't want to come here in the first place but chose Real instead
 
Bale is worth £50-60m to a team who can get the best out of him (i.e Spurs prior to Madrid move) but all he's really worth now to Madrid, in this form and what the fans think of him is realistically €40 million at best.
 
Bale is worth £50-60m to a team who can get the best out of him (i.e Spurs prior to Madrid move) but all he's really worth now to Madrid, in this form and what the fans think of him is realistically €40 million at best.

They talked a Serie A team into paying £40m for Higuain and Arsene Wenger into paying £40m for Ozil. Then they talked United into spending £60m breaking the British transfer record for a guy not best suited to English football who'd had one world class season.

You seriously see them selling Bale for £40-60m with his final third production, younger, way more marketable and still the second top scorer in the club after Ronaldo (and would be top scorer at most clubs).

If they sell him it's to make stupid money for the Pogba, Aguero or whoever else fund; not a desperation sell for whatever they might possibly cobble together, like Kagawa or Welbeck. They're forcing him out because they know United are desperate, not because they are.

99% of teams aren't like Barcelona and Man Utd and glad to take whatever they want for players they can no longer accommodate. Real Madrid have grown up in the last few years just like Chelsea. They're two of the better run clubs in world football these days; shocking as that may sound.

They're not going to write off £40m on a guy scoring more goals than United's top scorer, from the wing. When United are desperate for goals, youth and pace. Everyone including Real Madrid know you're forced to overspend. You paid £30m for Herrera and £60m for Di Maria. Why would they sell a 25-30 goal/assist a season 25 year old for £40m?
 
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He might not worth 60M, but real would force us to, if at we are after him.
 
  • They got a Serie A club to pay £40m for Higuain and Arsene to pay £40m for Ozil. They got United to break the British transfer record for a guy not best suited to English football who'd had one world class season, at £60m.
  • You seriously see them selling Bale for £40-60m with his production in the final third that much higher, way more marketable and still the second top scoring in Real Madrid's squad after Ronaldo (and would be top scorer for nearly every other team).
  • If they sell him it's to make stupid money to fund a Pogba, Aguero or whoever else move; not a desperation sell for whatever they can possibly cobble together; Kagawa or Welbeck style. They're forcing him out but they're not desperate.
  • 99% of teams aren't like Barcelona and Man Utd; who only seem to sell players they're desperate to be rid and will gladly take anything for them. Real Madrid have grown up in the last few years in exactly the way Chelsea have.
  • They're not going to write off £40m on a guy with more goals this season than any United player (even in a poor season). United are desperate for goals, youth and pace. Everyone watching knows that and Real Madrid are no different in spotting that weakness in your own stance.
  • You paid £30m for Herrera and Shaw and £60m for Di Maria after one top season (not the 2 back to back Bale's had at a younger age). Real aren't taking £40m for Bale from a team who spent £30m on Herrera.

Thanks for the dramatic bullet points but I said the lowest price is how much he's worth to Madrid, not what they'd sell him for. In my opinion his value hasn't grown and he was only worth £50-60 million tops when Madrid bought him.
 
Thanks for the dramatic bullet points but I said the lowest price is how much he's worth to Madrid, not what they'd sell him for. In my opinion his value hasn't grown and he was only worth £50-60 million tops when Madrid bought him.
His value, if it's set at the price he was bought for, hasn't grown

But he has grown as a player and shown that he can produce in the biggest matches. If DiMaria is worth 60m the Bale is surely worth more
 
In light of the new tv deal,Id be willing to give Madrid their 86m back to get him- a fair price would be 60 to 70m. Is he a van Gaal type of player though? And thats my biggest issue with this whole thing.
 
In light of the new tv deal,Id be willing to give Madrid their 86m back to get him- a fair price would be 60 to 70m. Is he a van Gaal type of player though? And thats my biggest issue with this whole thing.

What is a LVG type player though? I think if Bale is available for around the same fee as purchased by Madrid we should buy him (I don't think we will get a clear run at him also as City will be interested and Chelsea). We need that kind of pace in our team that is complimented with his end product.
 
What is a LVG type player though? I think if Bale is available for around the same fee as purchased by Madrid we should buy him (I don't think we will get a clear run at him also as City will be interested and Chelsea). We need that kind of pace in our team that is complimented with his end product.

Someone that works for the team and is careful in possession, Di Maria is his one exception to the latter part, but Bale's lack of tracking back I think could be off putting to LvG.
 
What is a LVG type player though? I think if Bale is available for around the same fee as purchased by Madrid we should buy him (I don't think we will get a clear run at him also as City will be interested and Chelsea). We need that kind of pace in our team that is complimented with his end product.
Who sanctioned the purchase of Herrera? If it was indeed Louis then his dealings worry me a bit. I'd love to know what he sees in Bale(in general).

Someone that works for the team and is careful in possession, Di Maria is his one exception to the latter part, but Bale's lack of tracking back I think could be off putting to LvG.
I dont think Louis minds having a player who plays "outside the lines" so to speak but they have to be consistent ala Robben. I just cant see him accomodating both Angel and Gareth.
 
Who sanctioned the purchase of Herrera? If it was indeed Louis then his dealings worry me a bit. I'd love to know what he sees in Bale(in general).

I dont think Louis minds having a player who plays "outside the lines" so to speak but they have to be consistent ala Robben. I just cant see him accomodating both Angel and Gareth.

Nothing wrong with buying Herrera, he is a good player who has improved us. We did however overpay for him.
 
No thanks, he isn't worth 60 right now
I'd be happy for us to sign him for close to that, myself.
He's a Premier League player, not a La Liga one. He's wasting his time there, much like Fabregas did (arguably).

We still need a match winner/complete forward.
 
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I'd take Bale over Di Maria admittedly. Bale and the PL go together like bread and butter.
 
I'd be happy for us to sign him for close to that, myself.
He's a Premier League player, not a La Liga one. He's wasting his time there, much like Fabregas did (arguably).

We still need a match winner/complete forward.

You're correct
 
I'd sign him, only for between £40-60m. I'd also sign Depay and sell di Maria to PSG. I can't see that happening, think we'll keep di Maria and sign Depay though.
 
I'd sign him, only for between £40-60m. I'd also sign Depay and sell di Maria to PSG. I can't see that happening, think we'll keep di Maria and sign Depay though.

Why not sign both and put Di Maria back into his best position?
 
He hasn't really proved himself in Premierleague more than in La Liga. He has proved in both leagues that he can be a matchwinner, but not really a great player throughout the whole 90 minutes. I don't think his all around play was any better at Spurs, if anything, he could be quite invisible in lot of games for them too only to score last minute winner.
 
I'd sign him, only for between £40-60m. I'd also sign Depay and sell di Maria to PSG. I can't see that happening, think we'll keep di Maria and sign Depay though.

Or Sign Bale and Depay and move Di Maria to the left side of central midfield. Buy a defensively sound box-to-box player (Schneiderlein) and a defender and we're sorted.

This football management lark is easy...
 
Why not sign both and put Di Maria back into his best position?
That would be ideal, with Rooney as a lone striker. I just think we'll end up with Rooney in CM next season again, as we'll have RvP and I think we've got a deal in place for Falcao. If we achieve top 4, then Januzaj will get game time too which will be a big plus.
 
Bale at £70m or Depay at £25m?
 
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