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I think it's a bit early to form definite opinions about Bale's potential. He's only 21. Some of the greatest players in history weren't very impressive at 21, e.g. Zidane.

We simply don't know what he is capable of. Even his own manager thought only several weeks/months ago that Bale was going to be a left back. Personally, I think he is going to be a huge success. His power, energy, pace and ability to deliver crosses in the box are astonishing. And he can score goals as well, excellent goals at that. Still, it's too early to say anything definite about his future in the game. Calm down.
 
Bale has performed far better than Walcott, throughout this calendar year.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but I don't think I said otherwise Pogue.

What I did say, however, was Walcott (and Wilshere) have put in quality performances this season. Walcott's hit 7 goals in 8 games, and his finishing skills look superb ATM. And even if Bale has been better it doesn't suddenly mean Walcott hasn't been playing well.

You'd have expected the media to go ballistic over 'young English' players Walcott and Wilshere playing so well this season for various reasons... Mind you I don't ever see any British papers, but form what I gather on here that hasn't been the case.
 
This season it's up for debate. This year it isn't.

Different roles too. Walcott's been playing more centrally, so you'd expect more goals. I'd rather Bale in our team than Walcott.

Walcott plays as a RWF. He may drift inboard from time to time though.
 
Ahh, fellow muppets, join me in a moment of appreciation for the drool worthy football that this would bring...


----------------------VDS----------------------
Rafael---------Rio----------Vidic----------Evra
-------Fletcher------------------Carrick--------
Nani---------------Scholes----------------Bale
----------------Wayne Rooney-----------------

or this -

----------------------VDS----------------------
Rafael---------Rio----------Vidic----------Evra
Nani-------Scholes--------Fletcher-------Bale
------------Rooney--------Hernandez--------
 
This looks like an even more shit stat than 'assists'. How can you make 27 'chances' and not one of them end up in the back of the net?

Isn't it similar to that key passes stats that you had up last year for something?

I've no idea how it's calculated but I'd imagine that a lot of these chances created from crosses into the box to Crouch, that end up getting headed on to VDV or no-one...there is quite a few.

Last year it had Fabregas with just under 100 chances created.
 
Stats aside, Bale looks the dogs bollocks.

Look how far he's come in a season. Walcott has pretty much been the same player for 3 years.

Not lately he hasn't. It has to be said he's had a horrible run with injuries, which has obviously hampered his development.

Though this season it looks like he's really learned how to finish the ball, and seems to be better carrying it across the pitch/controlling it.
 
I love the way you just all assume he'd want to join you.

Man City and Chelsea both have better teams than you, and can offer higher wages. Not to mention Real Madrid and Barcelona plus many more top European clubs.

YOU will NOT be his number 1 destination.

:nono:
 
You're right.

Let's talk about fachts:

Bale

Played: 900mins
Goals: 2
Assists: 1

Walcott

Played: 217mins
Goals: 4
Assists: 1
Why ignore Bale's stats in the CL - including 4 goals - and in other games?
 
BREAKING NEWS: 2010 Ballon d’Or Cancelled: Gareth Bale Wins Award Despite Lack of Nomination

"In what will be shocking news to football fans around the globe, this year’s Ballon d’or has been cancelled.

All nominees for the world player award were notified prior to the news being leaked to press, David Villa has commented ‘Of course I’m disappointed but what can you do when faced with such talent? I totally understand the decision.’

His Barcelona teammate, Lionel Messi, added ‘I heard an English commentator say he has the best left foot in world football. I am grateful as it means there is another level I can attain. I’ll be modelling my game on his.’

It’s the first time the prestigious Ballon d’or has been cancelled. The organisers made the decision after they realised the omission of the world’s best player made it a farce. Instead, this year the award will be given directly to Gareth Bale to recognise his achievements at the very top of the game.

Bale mania has been sweeping the world and has even touched his childhood home in Whitchurch, Cardiff. Rhys Jones, head of Whitchurch & Tongwynlais tourist board said ‘We’ve had visitors from everywhere on the planet. Last year we had 4 tourists, though we think one may have been a lorry driver lost through his Sat Nav, so this has really helped. There’s a spring near Gareth’s old primary school and people have been bottling the water to take home.’

Rafael Benitez is still struggling to recover from his team being torn apart by the Welsh Wizard, he shared his pain with us ‘What can you do? No point crying over spilt milk. We need to take the medicine like men, a spoon full of sugar should help.’

In Catalonia Carles Puyol was found having his ‘CESC MUST COME TO BARCA’ tattoo changed, tattooist Pablo Cunacho said it would be an easy job ‘Luckily Bale and Cesc are both four letter words so it’ll take no time at all. ‘

Meanwhile, more shocking news has emerged from Germany. Heinz Stein, director of communications at Berlin Aquarium was forced to face the international media after rumours started circulating regarding the death of Paul The Octopus™ “We can’t keep it a secret anymore, it’s true. We gave him four food pots, each with the name of a top football player so he could predict the world’s best. The pots, which were full, were labelled Messi, Ronaldo, Bale and Sniejder. Paul swam to the Bale pot like a torpedo and ate the entire contents in four seconds, this is far too quick but he was incredibly excited. He didn’t stand a chance, his digestive system literally exploded.”

We contacted Gareth for comment on this as the news broke but ‘his people’ were unable to grant an interview as he was busy at a local primary school. His PR manager, Max Clifford, told us ‘Gareth spends his days off helping the local community and is currently teaching football skills to children at a local school. After the Inter Milan game he went straight to the local soup kitchen to help serve the needy and vulnerable a much needed snack. You could have spoke to him on Sunday but he’s using that day off to visit his mum and cook Sunday lunch for all the family.’"

BREAKING NEWS: 2010 Ballon d
 
Dig them out and post them then. I just had PL stats to hand.

You do concede that 2 goals and 1 assist in 900mins is poor though?
I have Bale down for 6 goals and 7 assists in all competitions so far this season.

No, I don't think that 2 goals and 1 assist in 900mins is poor (even assuming that the assist stat is accurate - most stats sites are pretty useless when it comes to assists).

Why? Because it masks his generally excellent performances, and in any case it disguises the number of chances he creates for others, even if those chances have not been taken.

You need to remember that Defoe has been missing for most of the season so far - if he'd been available, or if any striker who is a notch above Crouch and Pav had been playing, I reckon Bale's assists stats would be looking better.
 
The funniest thing about that story is that I'm genuinely not sure whether or not Glaston knows it's not real.
 
You do realise Glaston, that like the Berba saga, this will not end with THFC on the winning side ;)
 
You do realise Glaston, that like the Berba saga, this will not end with THFC on the winning side ;)
Er .... but the Berba saga did leave us on "the winning side".

The 30.75m paid for nearly all of the combined fees of Modric, Gomes, Kranjcar and Crouch (for example) - 2 years after Berba left we finished 4th and currently top our group in the CL.
 
Er .... but the Berba saga did leave us on "the winning side".

The 30.75m paid for nearly all of the combined fees of Modric, Gomes, Kranjcar and Crouch (for example) - 2 years after Berba left we finished 4th and currently top our group in the CL.

:lol: Typical Glastonspaz, focusses only on the succesful signings since Berbatov left.

How's Robbie Keane getting on these days?
 
Makes me wonder why he didnt show that kind of quality against us on Saturday? There was only one slight glimpse where he cut across field and dragged his shot wide.

He utterly took apart Inter last night and in the San Siro for that matter?

Was it the opposition?
 
Makes me wonder why he didnt show that kind of quality against us on Saturday? There was only one slight glimpse where he cut across field and dragged his shot wide.

He utterly took apart Inter last night and in the San Siro for that matter?

Was it the opposition?

Brown > Maicon
 
:lol: Typical Glastonspaz, focusses only on the succesful signings since Berbatov left.

How's Robbie Keane getting on these days?
Typical Pogue Mabonehead: can't see the wood for the trees.

The underlying point is that Spurs used the Berba money to help us strengthen the squad overall and that has resulted in us now playing in the CL and attracting in players like VdV.

To suggest that Spurs have become weaker since losing Berbatov is obvious nonsense. There was a short-term downward blip, more due to the Jol/Ramos saga than anything else, followed by a big step forwards.
 
Typical Pogue Mabonehead: can't see the wood for the trees.

The underlying point is that Spurs used the Berba money to help us strengthen the squad overall and that has resulted in us now playing in the CL and attracting in players like VdV.

To suggest that Spurs have become weaker since losing Berbatov is obvious nonsense. There was a short-term downward blip, more due to the Jol/Ramos saga than anything else, followed by a big step forwards.

I guess that's why nobody suggested it, you tedious mongtard.

The "losing side" comment was about the battle to hold onto your best player. Formerly Berbatov, now Bale.
 
:lol: Typical Glastonspaz, focusses only on the succesful signings since Berbatov left.

How's Robbie Keane getting on these days?

In fairness his point is still relevant though... Berbatov's fee has paid for nearly all of those players. Which is quite impressive, especially when you consider how those players have fared respectively, they've been pretty good for Tottenham. Still Berbatov was far and away their best player, and they'd be a better side with him in it.

As for Keane, they essentially got a few million (?) for Keane missing half a season.
 
Rafael actually, not Brown.

Phil Neville also shut him out with ease the weekend before.

Maybe the PL coaches/defenders have a much better idea of how to defend against him but he's still an unknown quantity in Europe?

My argument would be that Maicon has made Bale look very very good over the last few games. That's not saying that Bale hasn't played well. But that for some reason Bale was raping Maicon time and time again, and he didn't learn.. and for that matter neither did Rafa.

You'd have thought he'd have identified a problem and made a change, but no. Traditional Rafa.
 
My argument would be that Maicon has made Bale look very very good over the last few games. That's not saying that Bale hasn't played well. But that for some reason Bale was raping Maicon time and time again, and he didn't learn.. and for that matter neither did Rafa.

You'd have thought he'd have identified a problem and made a change, but no. Traditional Rafa.

Too busy dueling with Hodgson.
 
In fairness his point is still relevant though... Berbatov's fee has paid for nearly all of those players. Which is quite impressive, especially when you consider how those players have fared respectively, they've been pretty good for Tottenham. Still Berbatov was far and away their best player, and they'd be a better side with him in it.

As for Keane, they essentially got a few million (?) for Keane missing half a season.

You can't repeatedly sell your best players if you want to win the league (or become an established CL side) no matter how many signings you make after they leave (and with Harry in charge, they'll make a lot of new signings if Bale gets sold for a wad of cash)

If Spurs are serious about progressing to the next level, holding onto Bale is a priority. There's a possibility they might do this but history would indicate otherwise.
 
Rafael actually, not Brown.

Phil Neville also shut him out with ease the weekend before.

Maybe the PL coaches/defenders have a much better idea of how to defend against him but he's still an unknown quantity in Europe?

Prem defenders have more pace. Inter just couldn't handle the fast breaks by Bale and that Rafa is a bonehead manager for not playing Milito.

Mourinho if still at Inter would have played 4-3-3 with Eto attacking down the right forcing Bale to help out Ekotto.
 
I guess that's why nobody suggested it, you tedious mongtard.

The "losing side" comment was about the battle to hold onto your best player. Formerly Berbatov, now Bale.
No, the "losing side" comment clearly implies that Spurs came off worse for the deal, when obviously we didn't.

No more would I suggest that Man. Utd came off worse for selling Ronaldo for 80m. If a player wants to leave and if a huge sum is offered, then a club will take it and move on - that applies to your club also.

IF there comes a point when Bale wishes to leave, and IF a sum of around 50m were offered, then I expect Spurs would take it, move on and end up with an even stronger squad as a result.

However, right now we're in the CL and doing OK .... sorry if that bugs you.
 
In fairness his point is still relevant though... Berbatov's fee has paid for nearly all of those players. Which is quite impressive, especially when you consider how those players have fared respectively, they've been pretty good for Tottenham. Still Berbatov was far and away their best player, and they'd be a better side with him in it.

As for Keane, they essentially got a few million (?) for Keane missing half a season.

We get it we got ass raped for Berba and now VDv is playng like Berba did a few seasons back.

You win some, you lose some.
 
You can't repeatedly sell your best players if you want to win the league (or become an established CL side) no matter how many signings you make after they leave (and with Harry in charge, they'll make a lot of new signings if Bale gets sold for a wad of cash)

If Spurs are serious about progressing to the next level, holding onto Bale is a priority. There's a possibility they might do this but history would indicate otherwise.

That's true, and you can use us as an example... Though Wenger has a lot more foresight than the Wheelin' dealin' 'Arry in this area.

And don't get me wrong, I wasn't saying anything like them selling Bale would be a plus (like it may have been with Berbatov, though I don't know if the money would've been available anyway - I think it may have been) if it meant 'Arry had more money to spend.
 
Prem defenders have more pace. Inter just couldn't handle the fast breaks by Bale and that Rafa is a bonehead manager for not playing Milito.

Mourinho if still at Inter would have played 4-3-3 with Eto attacking down the right forcing Bale to help out Ekotto.

You could see it a mile off too. EVERY Inter player had committed to the move, they were all up around the halfway line pressing hard, and then they lose the ball, and suddenly Bale's off like a flash.... And that was that.
 
IF there comes a point when Bale wishes to leave, and IF a sum of around 50m were offered, then I expect Spurs would take it, move on and end up with an even stronger squad as a result.

:lol::lol:

Right this is getting ridiculous now. Gareth Bale? £50 million? Jesus Christ.
 
No, the "losing side" comment clearly implies that Spurs came off worse for the deal, when obviously we didn't.

No more would I suggest that Man. Utd came off worse for selling Ronaldo for 80m. If a player wants to leave and if a huge sum is offered, then a club will take it and move on - that applies to your club also.

IF there comes a point when Bale wishes to leave, and IF a sum of around 50m were offered, then I expect Spurs would take it, move on and end up with an even stronger squad as a result.

However, right now we're in the CL and doing OK .... sorry if that bugs you.

No, no it doesn't. He was clearly referring to the challenge of holding on to Gareth Bale.

And believe me, Spurs' constant success doesn't bug me in the slightest. I'd much rather they be in the CL next season than City or Liverpool. I've always enjoyed watching Spurs (especially during the annual beat-down at Old Trafford) and I'd rather see them do well than a club that's been bought out by a sugar-daddy, or our greatest historical rivals. I always root for Spurs in the north London derby too.

It's you that bugs me. You're the worst kind of one-eyed rival fan. Completely pointless. The Goebbels of redcafe, constantly trying to convince everyone how amazing your team is with absolutely nothing to say on any other subject and a complete silence on anything negative to do with your own club. A good example being the dozens and dozens of posts on here after beating Inter, yet sweet feck all to say about the game last weekend (despite a whole bunch of posts in the match-day thread leading up to the game).

You're a shit poster that supports a football club I usually have a lot of time for. A horrible combination.
 
Rafael actually, not Brown.

Phil Neville also shut him out with ease the weekend before.

Maybe the PL coaches/defenders have a much better idea of how to defend against him but he's still an unknown quantity in Europe?

Italian teams have no idea how to defend against wide players.

I think you have to take the two Inter games out of the equation if you want to make a realistic assesment of Gareth Bale as a potential signing.
 
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