Gareth Bale | Signed new contract

Status
Not open for further replies.
apotheosis said:
Ash i have never once suggested signing Bale. I only asked the question hypothetically. You have read enough of my posts to know what position i would like us to strengthen and my view hasn't changed on that since the end of last season.

The reason why this debate has gone on is that other posters have strongly disagreed with me suggesting Nani is less consistent than a Valencia or a Bale, which is fair enough. I can only be honest, but i have no problem with Hectic or anybody else having a differing view to mine.

I stand by my statement that in my view Nani is more a wide forward than a winger. Not only because i believe his strengths are better suited to that role, but also because i do not believe he is particularly adept at covering the full back which is a requirement of a winger in a 4-4-2 system.

I see him no more a winger than Ronaldo was for pretty much the same reasons. I also believe that Nani would be very effective played through the middle. His pace and trickery and ability to make that crucial yard of space, added to his capacity to go either left or right and shoot from distance, imo make him an exciting prospect through the centre.

So i have never once suggested i do not rate Nani, or think we should sell him in favour of Bale. Only that i do not think he is consistent as a winger because in my view his strengths are more that of a wide forward or possibly an AM or second striker. Not an AM in a 4-4-2 mind!
Click to expand...

I didn't mean about signing Bale I meant about a hard working winger as you mentioned above. I get what you're saying about Nani and I agree he would be better suited to a more free role, however unlike Ronaldo he is genuinely good defensively, sure there may be others who are better but I don't think there are really many top wingers who are better than him in terms of tracking back.

As I said before I think he offers as much protection as he should. Again if you're the captain of manchester united and one of the first choice players you shouldn't need above average protection from a winger. Maybe in the odd game where we expect to be under serious pressure you could justify it but not on a regular basis, as I said before Evra shouldn't have needed more protection than he got from Nani against Everton. I agree with you about a lack of another competent defensive midfielder putting extra pressure on us, not just out wide, but all over, and that Evra would probably look better if we had say Fletcher and Carrick playing against Everton, but that's a different discussion. In terms of Nani and his effectiveness tracking back I think he does enough of his share to cover most games- plus I would say in general he's better defensively than he showed against Everton but I'm guessing a lack of fitness meant he wasn't quite as good as he can be, but still good enough.

Going to the consistency personally I think in the last two and a half seasons Nani has shown excellent consistency, his stats are considerably higher than the other two and really the only time he has lost his form is following injuries. Last year he took that blow against Liverpool which kept him out for a bit and he couldn't quite get his form back, this year he tailed off a little but for large parts of the early half of the season he was for me our best player and unfortunately got injured as others were getting to form. Valencia started this season very poorly, Bale is finishing this season pretty poorly. For a winger consistency is hard to find, personally I don't see a winger in europe who is more consistent than Nani with the exception of Ronaldo.
 
So bale in a interview on BBC, just basically said if tottenham dont get CL, he will sit down with the management and "discuss" his future.

By the sounds of it he wants to further himself, its open season! lets go bale hunting.
 
It's so obvious he'll be a City player next season.
 
He so blatently believes his own hype :lol:

The most overrated footballer in the world. Its gone beyond embarrassing levels now.
 
He's overrated by many but he's still very good. Imagine what Sir Alex could turn him into. :drool:
 
Sam said:
He so blatently believes his own hype :lol:

The most overrated footballer in the world. Its gone beyond embarrassing levels now.
Click to expand...

He's a quality player. The way he's under rated by people on here is almost as embarrasing as when he was being ridiculously over rated.

He'll be a massive improvement for City.
 
cw1984 said:
He's a quality player. The way he's under rated by people on here is almost as embarrasing as when he was being ridiculously over rated.

He'll be a massive improvement for City.
Click to expand...

He's very good when he plays on the left wing. Nowhere near the likes of Messi and Ronaldo (:wenger:) but very good. Like a left vooted Valencia.

Its now he (and Redknapp) seem to think he's so good that he can have the freedom of the pitch, where it all falls down. He just aint that good.
 
feck yes!!! I'd have no problems whatsoever with the club spending 30m+ on him

Make it so......
 
Harry tried to turn him into the new Ronaldo this year, and although yes in some game it worked, the majority of it was a complete failure.

Every time bale is on the left with lennon on the right they looked a threat, but when lennon got injured and he started putting bale on the right and modric on the left they looked awful.

If we signed bale he should stick to the left like valencia, and make the teams spread very wide, allowing room for rooney / welbeck and the midfield to control the match.

He would probably sell for £50 odd million anyway, so yeah probably city bound.
 
The problem with spending stupid money on a player like Bale is I don't think he has much longevity. He relies pretty much soley on his pace to beat people, as oppsised to skill/intelligence. He is very much a one trick poney. And thats not me having a dig, its just his game. And he is good at it tbf. But once he loses that pace (either through age, or potentially a serious injury) you'd be left with a player that isn't half as good. And for the kind of money thats being quoted (£50 odd million ffs! :wenger:) IMO thats a massive gamble to be taking.
 
Barca need an attacking LB after the Abidal situation... might happen.
Not the best defender, but neither is Alves.
 
Bale is quality, but his game is overly reliant on pace.

One serious injury, and he'll turn into another Owen.
 
According to reports in Spain, Barca have aleady signed Jordi Alba. Looks like he's city bound then.
 
Let City have him. Nani and Valencia are fantastic and Young is a decent cover. If we're buying a winger just buy some young prospect, or someone who can play in the middle too.
 
Kraftwerker said:
I wonder if Fergie could mould him into Evra's replacement, or has that left-back ship sailed for him?

We could really do with a left-footer for that position and the overlapping runs.
Click to expand...

This.

Bale and young on the left, valencia and nani on the right, rooney and hazard up top.

:drool::drool::drool:
 
Surprised so many would want us spending 30mil on him. I personally see no reason to buy a player of his ilk to the team. We already have 2 quality wingers and 1 very good one. If we want additional cover there, i'd rather we buy a young talented and cheap player there and mould him or if we want to go for top quality, buy someone who can perform multiple roles.
 
Varun_Utd said:
Surprised so many would want us spending 30mil on him. I personally see no reason to buy a player of his ilk to the team. We already have 2 quality wingers and 1 very good one. If we want additional cover there, i'd rather we buy a young talented and cheap player there and mould him or if we want to go for top quality, buy someone who can perform multiple roles.
Click to expand...

well fergie was in for him before and he is still very young, if the price is right we never know fergie might still be interested.
 
gulli_G said:
well fergie was in for him before and he is still very young, if the price is right we never know fergie might still be interested.
Click to expand...

With Levy at the helm, you cant be sure the price wont be right.
 
To me, it would either have been Young or Bale; we bought Young. Bale can play as a fullback, but not a particularly good one. If you think Evra is caught out of position and defense poorly, you haven't seen nothing till Bale arrives!

As an out and out winger he is class, but do we need him? I would rather welcome both Kagawa and Lucas as they can also play on the wing, but are mainly cm and am.
 
Difficult to see Fergie going back in for a player that has once rejected us. Im sure he had the chance to do the same for arjen robben when robben left madrid.
 
He'd cost a huge, huge amount. Based on Spurs-to-United transfer history, signing Bale would probably break our transfer record.

Despite that, I don't think he's considerably better than Valencia to warrant the money and he's not as good as Nani. Therefore no. Not saying I'm not a fan of his pace, stamina & left foot, though.

And yeah I also get the impression he believes his own hype.
 
Can't see it, Spurs will and should hold out for City/Chelsea money for him therefore ruling us out.
 
Gazza said:
He'd cost a huge, huge amount. Based on Spurs-to-United transfer history, signing Bale would probably break our transfer record.

Despite that, I don't think he's considerably better than Valencia to warrant the money and he's not as good as Nani. Therefore no. Not saying I'm not a fan of his pace, stamina & left foot, though.

And yeah I also get the impression he believes his own hype.
Click to expand...

Yeah I'd agree with this. If he somehow was going for twentyish million and we'd secured a midfielder than no issue, but with the type of money he'd cost, I really don't think we could justify the cost considering we've got excellent options out wide.
 
Ash_G said:
Yeah I'd agree with this. If he somehow was going for twentyish million and we'd secured a midfielder than no issue, but with the type of money he'd cost, I really don't think we could justify the cost considering we've got excellent options out wide.
Click to expand...

Yeah, this is where the argument that "transfer fees shouldn't be used to judge a player" needs a loophole - Bale for 18-20m would be an amazing signing, but value for money drops considerably after that.
 
Bale will be phenomenal in a better team. City will be much stronger when they sign him over the summer. The fans on here saying he is rubbish are the very same fans that were crying their eyes out when we signed Valencia only to change their tunes extremely quickly soon afterwards
 
Solius said:
He's overrated by many but he's still very good. Imagine what Sir Alex could turn him into. :drool:
Click to expand...

This, plus out wide is one area we really don't need more players in.
 
I can see him going to Manchester City, with Spurs getting Adam Johnson or Milner in return(plus Cash).
 
Status
Not open for further replies.