Television Game of Thrones (TV) • The watch has ended

Ice king would have cluelessly been looking for the three eyed raven forever if it wasn't for Bran messing things up in his visions. There would be no need for Jon and his suicide squad to go north and Dany couldn't have gone straight for KL after coming to Westeros.

The NK was heading south and building his army before the 3ER was even a thing in this.

He was always heading south with winter, it was repeatedly shown.
 
But Bran is only half that double act, he didn't even know himself!

And even if you are right, it's going to take the very last episode to make a difference, no?
I think it made some difference in this episode. If she trusted Jon she would have accepted his council about burning the city. We will only know the outcome at the end of the next episode. If Jon rules then Bran's vision was part of the double act that brought that about.
 
I think it made some difference in this episode. If she trusted Jon she would have accepted his council about burning the city. We will only know the outcome at the end of the next episode. If Jon rules then Bran's vision was part of the double act that brought that about.

But even then, she still takes the keep by smashing it to bits. But the history of her being mad goes back to before Jon turning her down, in fact directly before that we see her and Greyworm in the room when she dismisses him by his valyrian name. They had planned revenge, maybe not as harsh as she did, who knows, but they at least weren't letting Lannisters live.

And, even then, Bran didn't play the full role in that reveal. He didn't know it was Jon, and even then, he didn't tell anyone else but Jon.
 
You guys are book nerds though. My missus doesn't even know what a Jon Aryn is. All she knows is that Jamie pushed Bran out of a window because he saw him boning his sister but that's ok because Jamie is (was) nice now and Bran is a weirdo or something.
 
Has anything about the entire story of the show been impacted by Bran?

If his character was removed completely would anything have happened differently as a consequence?

Well Brann saw Jaime and Cersie screwing which lead to his assasinate attempt twice which started the conflict between the Starks and Lannisters which was the start of the Civil War.
 
You guys are book nerds though. My missus doesn't even know what a Jon Aryn is. All she knows is that Jamie pushed Bran out of a window because he saw him boning his sister but that's ok because Jamie is (was) nice now and Bran is a weirdo or something.

Probably take far more of the details in on a 2nd viewing as Season 1 in particular was intimidating given the sheer quantity of characters.
 
So who will be the 1000th night's commander of the lord's watch?

Pure speculation but they'll ask Jon Snow and he'll turn them down because all he can say is "I don't want it." I don't think there's going to be a Nights Watch. Others are dead and the Wildlings will be part of the allies to the north. No enemy up there.
 
Pure speculation but they'll ask Jon Snow and he'll turn them down because all he can say is "I don't want it." I don't think there's going to be a Nights Watch. Others are dead and the Wildlings will be part of the allies to the north. No enemy up there.

I'm hoping there will be more white walkers and the night king was simply one faction. That'd be swell.
 
You guys are book nerds though. My missus doesn't even know what a Jon Aryn is. All she knows is that Jamie pushed Bran out of a window because he saw him boning his sister but that's ok because Jamie is (was) nice now and Bran is a weirdo or something.

:lol: Your missus sounds exactly like mine. Focusing on the important stuff.

Well Brann saw Jaime and Cersie screwing which lead to his assasinate attempt twice which started the conflict between the Starks and Lannisters which was the start of the Civil War.

Nope, we covered this.

So who will be the 1000th night's commander of the lord's watch?

What, exactly, makes you bring up the night's watch?
 
But even then, she still takes the keep by smashing it to bits. But the history of her being mad goes back to before Jon turning her down, in fact directly before that we see her and Greyworm in the room when she dismisses him by his valyrian name. They had planned revenge, maybe not as harsh as she did, who knows, but they at least weren't letting Lannisters live.

And, even then, Bran didn't play the full role in that reveal. He didn't know it was Jon, and even then, he didn't tell anyone else but Jon.
I'd always assumed he'd have warged back in time, as in with Hodor, and caused the mad king to go mad, hence setting the whole sequence in motion. It seems not.
 
Yeah, but why? What's left to watch other than, you know, literally the night?

I find it interesting you still think they'll play a part.

Maybe the ice king can be resurrected/recreated? Maybe the mark he left on Bran is significant? We don't know if all the children of the jungle died, maybe some survived and they decide they want to create a new ice king?
 
I'd always assumed he'd have warged back in time, as in with Hodor, and caused the mad king to go mad, hence setting the whole sequence in motion. It seems not.

Nope, the mad king thing was just a theory. It would have been cool though tbh.

He literally does feck all. Even Euron at least rids us of the Sandsnakes and kills a dragon.


Maybe the ice king can be resurrected/recreated? Maybe the mark he left on Bran is significant? We don't know if all the children of the jungle died, maybe some survived and they decide they want to create a new ice king?

And this all happens in the last episode? Bizarre.

Though I do also still hope the NK has warged into one of those ice ice babies. Oh and you know who does turn out to be the you know what...
 
Did everyone forget Bran said "chaos is a ladder" to Littlefinger! That alone justifies his character.

I'm kidding I never liked Bran.
 
And this all happens in the last episode? Bizarre.

Though I do also still hope the NK has warged into one of those ice ice babies. Oh and you know who does turn out to be the you know what...

No, they just have to appoint a 1000th night's commander and say something along the lines of 'you never know what will happen in the future'. The rest would be an open ending. That's so much better than implying that the undead are gone forever [speculation](and potentially the Targs/Lannisters too)[/speculation] and that everyone remaining in the known world will live happily ever after.
 


Guys, you’ve gone full Star Wars.

Never go full Star Wars


:lol: Nerds and their ceaseless entitlement.

Only just watched episode 5. It was good. Looked great. Moody yet exciting. Nice and dark too. Solid 7/10.

Was quite looking forward to catching up on this thread but I’m guessing it’s umpteen pages about why characters x, y and z didn’t get the glorious send off they deserve, blow by blow analysis of why Cersei’s siege tactics were ALL WRONG and relentless and excessive use of the word “arc”?

If so, I should probably pass.
 
:lol: Nerds and their ceaseless entitlement.

Only just watched episode 5. It was good. Looked great. Moody yet exciting. Nice and dark too. Solid 7/10.

Was quite looking forward to catching up on this thread but I’m guessing it’s umpteen pages about why characters x, y and z didn’t get the glorious send off they deserve, blow by blow analysis of why Cersei’s siege tactics were ALL WRONG and relentless and excessive use of the word “arc”?

If so, I should probably pass.
There was a 2 page discussion on Dany and her lack of make-up and how that was the wrong way to portray possible mental illness.

I think...
 
:lol: Nerds and their ceaseless entitlement.

Only just watched episode 5. It was good. Looked great. Moody yet exciting. Nice and dark too. Solid 7/10.

Was quite looking forward to catching up on this thread but I’m guessing it’s umpteen pages about why characters x, y and z didn’t get the glorious send off they deserve, blow by blow analysis of why Cersei’s siege tactics were ALL WRONG and relentless and excessive use of the word “arc”?

If so, I should probably pass.

Not at all, we've all had a jolly good time discussing much more important things, like naming the horse.

Well worth a read!
 
Definitely started by one of our supporters.

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:lol: Nerds and their ceaseless entitlement.
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Everyone talks about how intransigent the Boomer generation have been to the prospect of societal change, but if the recent reactions to the likes of Ghostbusters, Star Wars and this prove anything, it’s that the “nerd” generation are going to prove a much bigger and more infuriating obstacle when they become the heavyweight political majority. God help our children...
 
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Everyone talks about how intransigent the Boomer generation have been to the prospect of societal change, but if the recent reactions to the likes of Ghostbusters, Star Wars and this prove anything, it’s that the “nerd” generation are going to prove a much bigger and more infuriating obstacle when they become the heavyweight political majority. God help our children...
We have to get our children to infiltrate them Mockey ;)