Television Game of Thrones (TV) • The watch has ended

I would like it though if they at least acknowledged he's still around considering how vital he should be to the plot.

Not a spoiler but I'm always a bit on the cautious side in this thread.

I bought him in for a voice over session once and asked him (this was right after the season where he was sent on that boat) what's in store for his character, to which he responded "big things". Either he's a liar or they cut some scenes of him out...
Well, he is likely the Westeros' rowing champion by now, I'd say it's pretty big
 
All the show has confirmed is who Jon's mother is. His father is still up in the air to most casual viewers.

True, but those paying attention or watching back should pin it together given the hints in Season 5. Was pretty obvious what was going on in the Sansa/Littlefinger scene in the crypt at Winterfell.
 
True, but those paying attention or watching back should pin it together given the hints in Season 5. Was pretty obvious what was going on in the Sansa/Littlefinger scene in the crypt at Winterfell.

They beat us up with some of the previously scenes where they kept reminding the viewers that R had taken or run off with L.
 
It's been said that Rhaeger raped Lyanna multiple times in the show.

Now that Lyanna has been confirmed to be Jon's mother, its confirmed that Rhaeger is his father. The only thing left is:

whether he raped her at all, or whether it was consensual.
 
So now it's confirmed we all pretty much know how it's all going to end right? Am I right in thinking Star Wars-esque and all happily ever after?
 
So now it's confirmed we all pretty much know how it's all going to end right? Am I right in thinking Star Wars-esque and all happily ever after?

I know it is Game of Thrones but I would find a 'shock' ending like Littlefinger and Sansa taking the Iron Throne or something deeply unsatisfying.
 
It's been said that Rhaeger raped Lyanna multiple times in the show.

Now that Lyanna has been confirmed to be Jon's mother, its confirmed that Rhaeger is his father. The only thing left is:

whether he raped her at all, or whether it was consensual.
That's just the Baratheon excuse touted for Lyanna running away with Rhaegar.
 
Everybody thinks Dany is going to marry either Jon, LF, Euron or even Jamie...but what if it's Yara:eek:

I recall Dany telling the Khal's she's never bearing a baby for another man again. /shit speculation
 
I know it is Game of Thrones but I would find a 'shock' ending like Littlefinger and Sansa taking the Iron Throne or something deeply unsatisfying.

I think most people expect a big battle with the White Walkers, no doubt that will obviously happen. But if Night King is killed then they still need to ride North and destroy that White Walker castle thing. Whether they bother to do that in the show I dunno. But i'm sure they've all read Lord of the Rings and will have learnt from Isildurs mistake.
 
True, but those paying attention or watching back should pin it together given the hints in Season 5. Was pretty obvious what was going on in the Sansa/Littlefinger scene in the crypt at Winterfell.
I guess, but we've not had a flashback scene of Rhaegar yet, so I can imagine there is still a high proportion of viewers who aren't familiar with him. If Rhaegar is the father, it'll be set up as another GoT 'shock scene'.
 
I think most people expect a big battle with the White Walkers, no doubt that will obviously happen. But if Night King is killed then they still need to ride North and destroy that White Walker castle thing. Whether they bother to do that in the show I dunno. But i'm sure they've all read Lord of the Rings and will have learnt from Isildurs mistake.

Who actually knows aout the castle where the babys are made? Imagine the King Walker is killed, but he has a few babys in the place, left to grow with nobody in the kingdoms knowing about it...
 
Yeah I'm wondering if that might be why Sam is in a huge library.
Oh yeah, thats a great point and would bring some good focus on him. Learning about (and obviously through him, the viewers learning) the WW history, what happened after the Children brought them to be their saviours, etc. That would bring some much needed interest into Sam scenes.
 
I guess, but we've not had a flashback scene of Rhaegar yet, so I can imagine there is still a high proportion of viewers who aren't familiar with him. If Rhaegar is the father, it'll be set up as another GoT 'shock scene'.
You'd have to be fairly dense not to have guessed it by now, so it won't be a shock. The only shock would be if they were secretly married, which would legitimize Jon as not being a bastard.
 
I imagine HBO should be thinking about filming some sort of a prequel series given the show mass appeal, right?
 
So only 13 episodes left? That's really disappointing. So far IMO there's plenty more of the story to examine before the end.

Seems like Daenary's invasion and the white walker attack will be rushed, which is a shame.
 
So only 13 episodes left? That's really disappointing. So far IMO there's plenty more of the story to examine before the end.

Seems like Daenary's invasion and the white walker attack will be rushed, which is a shame.
13 episodes is more than enough time for them not to rush those arcs, which have been built up over a few seasons now. Well, since the beginning actually.

They've killed off so many characters and arcs, 13 episodes should suffice to focus on the 3-4 big ones (the 2 you mentioned/King's Landing, what happens in the North and Euron).

There is probably a lot of characters they left out from the books anyway. So yeah, they could have extended it a few more seasons, but then you'd probably get more complaints about fillers and the slow pace they're moving at. Not to mention budgetary issues.

But yeah, it's sad to think 13 more episodes and it''s finished :( spin offs aside.
 
So only 13 episodes left? That's really disappointing. So far IMO there's plenty more of the story to examine before the end.

Seems like Daenary's invasion and the white walker attack will be rushed, which is a shame.

Do you want a couple of episodes of Dany's army sailing across the ocean or something? Perhaps Tyrion could solve the riddle of scurvy whilst Grey Worm considers career options once the war is finished and works on a stand up routine.
 
It's been said that Rhaeger raped Lyanna multiple times in the show.

Now that Lyanna has been confirmed to be Jon's mother, its confirmed that Rhaeger is his father. The only thing left is:

whether he raped her at all, or whether it was consensual.

All the little clues throughout the show point to them both being in love and running off together, anytime people (apart from Robert Baratheon obviously) who knew Rhaegar always talk about him in glowing terms and paint him as a noble, kind & well loved prince who also treated the people well, being a kidnapping rapist doesn't fit with what they've been saying. I think it was also hinted at that Lyanna Stark had reservations about Robert being loyal to her.
 
Will the episodes be a little longer since there are only a few more left?

Don't think so, Benioff and Weiss talked about a total run time of 73 hours and 13 more episodes. Given that we're very close to 60 hours now, it leaves us with thirteen 60 minute episodes for the next two seasons or twelve 55 minute episodes and a two hour long grand finale.
 
Do you want a couple of episodes of Dany's army sailing across the ocean or something? Perhaps Tyrion could solve the riddle of scurvy whilst Grey Worm considers career options once the war is finished and works on a stand up routine.
Aye. I think 13 hours/episodes is way than more enough to finish those arcs, without rushing it.
 
Do you want a couple of episodes of Dany's army sailing across the ocean or something? Perhaps Tyrion could solve the riddle of scurvy whilst Grey Worm considers career options once the war is finished and works on a stand up routine.
I think they could explore more about Bran's powers, get Dorne involved more, Perhaps explore more beyond the wall? So much more they could do but I guess they just want to finish it. Shame as I enjoy the show.
 
Do you want a couple of episodes of Dany's army sailing across the ocean or something? Perhaps Tyrion could solve the riddle of scurvy whilst Grey Worm considers career options once the war is finished and works on a stand up routine.
A couple of episodes with very rough seas causing dannys clothes to become all wet and torn whilst the boat (and this things on the boat) get bounced around.... If you have to do filler it might as well be softcore filler
 
It's been said that Rhaeger raped Lyanna multiple times in the show.

Now that Lyanna has been confirmed to be Jon's mother, its confirmed that Rhaeger is his father. The only thing left is:

whether he raped her at all, or whether it was consensual.
or if they got married - thus making John not a Bastard and infact the heir to the iron throne - or if they were not married and he is still a stark bastard
 
All the little clues throughout the show point to them both being in love and running off together, anytime people (apart from Robert Baratheon obviously) who knew Rhaegar always talk about him in glowing terms and paint him as a noble, kind & well loved prince who also treated the people well, being a kidnapping rapist doesn't fit with what they've been saying. I think it was also hinted at that Lyanna Stark had reservations about Robert being loyal to her.

Gonna put in Spoiler tag cos its speculation so....

Especially with the way Selmy talked about Rhaegar. Unless Rhaegar went mad due to love (hey, maybe thats a Targaryen thing lol), he sounded noble, somebody that preferred love not violence (though he was good at it), not somebody that sounds like he would kidnap somebody else
 
Oh yeah, thats a great point and would bring some good focus on him. Learning about (and obviously through him, the viewers learning) the WW history, what happened after the Children brought them to be their saviours, etc. That would bring some much needed interest into Sam scenes.

Wasn't that one of the reason's Jon gave for sending him there, to find out information on the WW?
 
By the way, at some point Tywin said that the Lannisters are almost broke and owe a huge amount to the Iron Bank (along with the Crown) - was this storyline expanded? I don't recall and they are still spending money without hesitation.
 
By the way, at some point Tywin said that the Lannisters are almost broke and owe a huge amount to the Iron Bank (along with the Crown) - was this storyline expanded? I don't recall and they are still spending money without hesitation.

Stannis went to the Iron Bank and (Davos) convinced them to give Stannis the money to pay for an army of sellswords to join him, citing that Tywin was old and thus Stannis was a better bet to win the Iron Throne (eventually) and repay the debt, This is how he had so many men to attack the wildlings with despite being decimated at Kings Landing. When Stannis had Shireen burned alive, the sellswords abandoned him and joined Ramsay's army.
Cersei sent Mace Tyrell to Braavos to renegotiate terms with the Iron Bank and that loose end is presumably tied up now.
 
Stannis went to the Iron Bank and (Davos) convinced them to give Stannis the money to pay for an army of sellswords to join him, citing that Tywin was old and thus Stannis was a better bet to win the Iron Throne (eventually) and repay the debt, This is how he had so many men to attack the wildlings with despite being decimated at Kings Landing. When Stannis had Shireen burned alive, the sellswords abandoned him and joined Ramsay's army.
Oh, thanks. So Lannisters doesn't concern themselves (well, there are only two and a half left) about the debt anymore, given that there is an open confrontation between them and Braavos. Still, having an army so big and the Royal Kingsguards on their payroll too has to be very costly, it's interesting if at some point they are going to suffer because of that or would the screenwriters just put it aside.