Gaa 2012

Laois. Or dowen-da-cuntry as Dubs call ih.

Ah. I was going to say that explains the bitterness, but then Laois are nowhere near Dublin! I suppose there may be a bit of a Liverpool-United rivalry of recent years here.

Can you seriously look at second half and say that Mayo weren't regularly feigning injury? Its a joke. The Mayo defender blocked a shot with his hands, and then spends the next few minutes on the ground with all the medical staff around him! They should really have to get off the pitch if they need medical attention, unless its serious. I'd say they went down with cramps at least 5 times, and that started with about 15 mins left! If they really are that unfit, they haven't a hope against the fittest team in the country.
 
Ah. I was going to say that explains the bitterness, but then Laois are nowhere near Dublin!

Oooooooooooh......good one!

Re Mayo lying down, of course they should not have been doing it. Westmeath minors, U21s & seniors made a gameplan out of cheating Laois out of Leinster titles. But, how is a player lying down any different than the goalie sauntering up to take a 45?

In the AI final last year and this year's QF, Cluxton used up the entire injury time wandering up for 45s. The time was up today, yet Cluxton's 45 was nearly punched to the goal. The ref should have blown up at the ball going over the end-line...it would have been a massive injustice if Dublin had drawn level.
 
Can you seriously look at second half and say that Mayo weren't regularly feigning injury? Its a joke. The Mayo defender blocked a shot with his hands, and then spends the next few minutes on the ground with all the medical staff around him! They should really have to get off the pitch if they need medical attention, unless its serious. I'd say they went down with cramps at least 5 times, and that started with about 15 mins left! If they really are that unfit, they haven't a hope against the fittest team in the country.

If I was a Dub I wouldn't be saying a word about anyone feigning injuries. Especially after the Dublin player broke a Mayo players nose then the full back pulls him off the ground 3 times by his neck and jersey incident. Disgraceful behaviour that and had it being a Mayo player that did that in front of two umpires a ref and a linesman he would have more than likely being sent off, thanks be to feck the Mayo lad hadn't a serious neck injury or something. is it There were several other dirty sly hits to the faces and heads of the Mayo players too and they didn't go down either so feck your feigning injury shite and take your beating.
 
Yep, I'm a neutral here with no big hate for Dublin or love for Mayo and I reckon Dublin's roughhouse tactics in the second hand where very poor form. The ref was worth 3-4 points to Dublin today as well. If your going to waste time yourself don't complain when other teams do.
 
Oooooooooooh......good one!

Re Mayo lying down, of course they should not have been doing it. Westmeath minors, U21s & seniors made a gameplan out of cheating Laois out of Leinster titles. But, how is a player lying down any different than the goalie sauntering up to take a 45?

In the AI final last year and this year's QF, Cluxton used up the entire injury time wandering up for 45s. The time was up today, yet Cluxton's 45 was nearly punched to the goal. The ref should have blown up at the ball going over the end-line...it would have been a massive injustice if Dublin had drawn level.
Tbf to Cluxton, he just goes up, puts the ball down and kicks it. He may take longer than most to get to the ball, but once he's there there is little or no fuss. He hardly sprinted up to the ball in injury time today either, so it had its advantages and disadvantages. He's our FK taker, thats hardly against the rules, is it?

And if the ref had've blown it up when the ball went over the endline it wouldve been a joke, and caused ructions. They always give a tad extra time if there is a free/45, especially considering Mayo made a sub/went down with injury in extra time.

I agree that it was a bit shit for Laois in the QF in regards to extra time, but that was no fault of Cluxtons. As he was coming up from his goal, subs were made, so it made no difference whether he sprinted or walked, he still had to wait. It was the refs fault for not taking the subs into account.
If I was a Dub I wouldn't be saying a word about anyone feigning injuries. Especially after the Dublin player breaks a Mayo players nose then the full back pulls him off the ground 3 times with his jersey catching his neck incident. Disgraceful behaviour that and had it being a Mayo player that did that in front of two umpires a ref and a linesman he would have more than likely being sent off, thanks be to feck the Mayo lad hadn't a serious neck injury or something. There were several other dirty sly high hits to the faces/heads of the Mayo players too and they didn't go down either so feck your feigning injury shite and take your beating

I honestly didn't see that incident. I saw O'Carrol try to get your man up, but didnt see why he was down in the first place. It was horrible from O'Carrol though, and at the time I presume a Dub had decked the Mayo lad, because of how O'Carrol was trying to get the Mayo lad up to seem like nothing happened. Guess I'll see it on the Sunday game in a while. If there was an off the ball incident, then yes, its horrible, but saying that had it been a Mayo lad he wouldve been sent off is just ridiculous. Its, again, like Liverpool claiming that the FA help United win titles. Pure madness.

And I am taking my beating. We were absolutely shite. Didn't deserve to win, and haven't played well all Championship. I said a few times in this thread that we'd struggle against Mayo. It was always going to be a tough game, and I wasnt overly surprised we lost. But Mayo acting like they did just pissed me off.
 
Sure Mayo went down and stayed down. Don't be like Papi and cry when one team does it and excuse another. We shouldn't have let them get 10 points ahead. GAA players will do it as others do it. Dublin lost aganst Cork a few years back because they were naive; I was shouting for our hobbling half back to go down. He didnt, we lost.

One rule which needs looking at is a GAA version of the professional foul. I've seen it in a few games this year by various teams. You should be rewarded for trying to score goals and helped somewhat by the officials.
 
Gotta say, Sunday Game is shit these days. There's only two game, and one was a minor match. How can they show such little highlights? They started at 2-2, 10 minutes in. Skipping loads of points, and only showing scores, barely anything else. No signs of O'Carroll with that guy with the broken nose, no sign of Alan Brogan for the little time he was on, no close misses and near wides, nothing. Its annoying as once the ball is kicked, you just know it'll be a point.
 
The bottom line is that by the time we had brought Alan brogan on to inject that creativity and spark he brings to the team it was a bridge to far, the lads were always going to be up against it big time from the second half of the game. It was too easy for mayo in the first half and that was our fault and nobody else's.

Mayo deserved to win, did they roll around a bit in the second half? Yes but if it was Dublin doing that we would hardly be moaning. Does it take that long for cluxton to take frees as papi makes it out to be? No but then again he has made it abundantly clear that he is bitter against dubs in general. But fair play to mayo, they did the job that they needed to do.
 
Just saw the incident that ended up with the Mayo lad with a bloody nose, and it was nothing. That sort of stuff always happens, he just got unlucky.
 
Dublin were awful. They cannot defend. They never get close to their men. I still can't understand how they won the All-Ireland last year.

And what the hell does Eamonn Fennell have on Gilroy to continuously be picked. He is absolutely atrocious. And he's a prick.
 
Sure Mayo went down and stayed down. Don't be like Papi and cry when one team does it and excuse another. We shouldn't have let them get 10 points ahead. GAA players will do it as others do it. Dublin lost aganst Cork a few years back because they were naive; I was shouting for our hobbling half back to go down. He didnt, we lost.

One rule which needs looking at is a GAA version of the professional foul. I've seen it in a few games this year by various teams. You should be rewarded for trying to score goals and helped somewhat by the officials.

I justify it to an extent given how you Dubs did last year and thus.

As for a professional foul, Dublin would be fecked as youre the most cynical team out there.

Is it just the one chip or do you have a whole bag?

I like chips. Will you remember that when you put me up in a few weeks when I travel up ti climb Mweelrea?
 
As for a professional foul, Dublin would be fecked as youre the most cynical team out there.

There you go again, I like the sport more than I hate any given team. You are a sad man.

The atttudes of the players all over are changing, they are becoming more cynical and the rules will have to adpat.
 
I justify it to an extent given how you Dubs did last year and thus.

As for a professional foul, Dublin would be fecked as youre the most cynical team out there.

Jesus christ you cant help yourself can you?

I dont know how people can have such bitterness to another team or another set of fans in the GAA, I love the fact that fans can mingle and can sit together, there is no home or away fan sections in the stands and christ we even have other counties on the hill these days which is great especially for some well spirited banter. (Though admittedly when the dubs are playing the hill is still 98% blue.)

Anyway you are sadly one of those fans, and there are a lot less of them going around these days that just harbour pure bitterness towards other teams and fans, the kind of fan that resorts to childish imitations of what I think is meant to be how dubs talk with posts such as..

Laois. Or dowen-da-cuntry as Dubs call ih.

Will you remember that when you put me up in a few weeks when I travel up ti climb Mweelrea?

There were some mayo lads on the bus and on the hill yesterday and we had great banter with them, both sets of fans enjoyed it but fans like yourself are the ones where you cant even have a conversation with. Thankfully that kind of fan is a dying breed in the GAA from what I can see, so go on then. I await some kind of condescending reply or some crappy imitation of how you think dubs talk.
 
Jesus christ you cant help yourself can you?

I dont know how people can have such bitterness to another team or another set of fans in the GAA, I love the fact that fans can mingle and can sit together, there is no home or away fan sections in the stands and christ we even have other counties on the hill these days which is great especially for some well spirited banter. (Though admittedly when the dubs are playing the hill is still 98% blue.)

Anyway you are sadly one of those fans, and there are a lot less of them going around these days that just harbour pure bitterness towards other teams and fans, the kind of fan that resorts to childish imitations of what I think is meant to be how dubs talk with posts such as..





There were some mayo lads on the bus and on the hill yesterday and we had great banter with them, both sets of fans enjoyed it but fans like yourself are the ones where you cant even have a conversation with. Thankfully that kind of fan is a dying breed in the GAA from what I can see, so go on then. I await some kind of condescending reply or some crappy imitation of how you think dubs talk.

What's wrong with the Mweelrea one? Using a phone here so typos may occur.

As fir the Dubs, they love rubbing it in, but want to be left alone when they lose.
 
Just saw the incident that ended up with the Mayo lad with a bloody nose, and it was nothing. That sort of stuff always happens, he just got unlucky.

Yep players get broken noses and teeth all the time, can't say I ever saw an opposition player picking a player with his face covered in blood up off the ground 3 times and fecking him back down again like a bag of spuds though, the Mayo lad wasn't even fighting back ffs.

Not really as big into the football as the rest of ye on here as I'm from the hurling area of Galway but I have to say as far as entertainment and excitement goes I think its gone back a good bit in the last few years but particularly this year. Cynical fouling, time wasting even diving has crept into the game a bit all that and certain teams tactics would be what I'd see as the main reason for it. Gaelic football could do with a few rule changes I think, countdown timer for free kick takers, get tougher on cynical fouling and maybe come up with some sort of an idea to make teams more attacking minded besides this blanket defence shite, passing the ball back ways and sideways more often than not.
 
Jesus christ you cant help yourself can you?

I dont know how people can have such bitterness to another team or another set of fans in the GAA, I love the fact that fans can mingle and can sit together, there is no home or away fan sections in the stands and christ we even have other counties on the hill these days which is great especially for some well spirited banter. (Though admittedly when the dubs are playing the hill is still 98% blue.)

Anyway you are sadly one of those fans, and there are a lot less of them going around these days that just harbour pure bitterness towards other teams and fans, the kind of fan that resorts to childish imitations of what I think is meant to be how dubs talk with posts such as..


There were some mayo lads on the bus and on the hill yesterday and we had great banter with them, both sets of fans enjoyed it but fans like yourself are the ones where you cant even have a conversation with. Thankfully that kind of fan is a dying breed in the GAA from what I can see, so go on then. I await some kind of condescending reply or some crappy imitation of how you think dubs talk.

I've been to several club games between neigbouring parishes down through the years and recently enough too with only a couple of hundred people at them and seen ref's being assaulted by supporters, players being assaulted by supporters, some unreal personal shit insults etc being traded amongst supporters/neighbours in the same stand, saw the same several times at county games as well. Your out of touch with the GAA scene if you think its all lovey dovey I'm afraid. Bitterness and passion is alive and well in the GAA, its what makes it.
 
I've been to several club games between neigbouring parishes down through the years and recently enough too with only a couple of hundred people at them and seen ref's being assaulted by supporters, players being assaulted by supporters, some unreal personal shit being traded amongst supporters/neighbours in the same stand, saw the same several times at county games as well. Your out of touch with the GAA scene if you think its all lovey dovey I'm afraid. Bitterness and passion is alive and well in the GAA, its what makes it.

Im out of touch then because I have never seen that at any game I have been to ever, passion makes it. The bitterness is pathetic.
 
Oh and also just to clarify, I want to make clear that I dont mean everything in the GAA is rosy and nice, there are still problems present, but I mean that in my opinion there is a lot less problems than we had years ago.
 
Just back, feck me that was poor. First half from us was shite, last 25 mins were good, but we left it too late. If only Brogan had've scored that goal! Eamonn Fennel was useless. Absolutely shite. Gotta say, Mayo were cnutish. You'd swear it was a soccer match, the amount of time they spent pn the floor. They started time wasting with 20 mins to go! Shows a lack of self believe, and they so nearly shat in their nest. They'll need a huge lead over Donegal with 15 minutes to go if they are to win.

Donegal to destroy Mayo in the final.

Hilarious that you accuse someone else of bitterness in your very next post.

All this shite about cluxton taking 2 minutes for a kick, the mayo physio was on the pitch nearly more than the mayo players in the second half, and the mayo goalkeeper was being a tosser as well. And that's not me being bitter that's the simple truth of it

Can you seriously look at second half and say that Mayo weren't regularly feigning injury? Its a joke. The Mayo defender blocked a shot with his hands, and then spends the next few minutes on the ground with all the medical staff around him! They should really have to get off the pitch if they need medical attention, unless its serious. I'd say they went down with cramps at least 5 times, and that started with about 15 mins left! If they really are that unfit, they haven't a hope against the fittest team in the country.

There's an awful lot being made of Mayo players going down injured and what not, but very little of it was cynicism. In the first half we had a lad break his finger, second half we had Varley break his nose, McLaughlin get a serious smack on the back of the head and Cafferky had a bad clash of heads with O'Gara. All legitimate reasons to go down.

Who else went down? There were a couple of lads that went down with cramp, but was it really more than a couple? Was it really worth talking about?

I can't remember a football game that had 5 minutes of injury time (apart from the rare occasion where an ambulance is called or someone breaks a leg or that), let alone a game where 5 minutes are signaled and 7 are played. Is there that much grounds for complaint?

Just saw the incident that ended up with the Mayo lad with a bloody nose, and it was nothing. That sort of stuff always happens, he just got unlucky.

Agreed, nothing really happened there. Varley went to shoulder the Dub as he ran by, caught him in the wrong place and broke his nose.

Rory O'Carroll proved to be quite the arsehole thereafter though.
 
There's also a trend in GAA to dish out criticism far quicker than to hand out praise - I think it's an RTE inspired theme myself with the negative pricks they tend to roll out.

People focusing on how one team were poor tends to overlook the other team completely and Mayo have been a prime example of that all year. We scored 4-22 against Leitrim ("ah sure it's only Leitrim"), played poorly against Sligo but won ("ye all saw their true colours there, Mayo are shite"), scored 3-16 against Down ("Ulster football must be fecked") and now 0-19 against the reigning All Ireland champions ("never showed up for the first half").

Mayo were class yesterday for 50 minutes, real top quality football and well deserving of victory. Dublin showed themselves to be truly top quality champions in the last 20 minutes, they were never beaten until the 77th minute and even then we had to check the score board to make sure.

Why not focus on the positives of what was a hugely entertaining game?
 
Oh and also just to clarify, I want to make clear that I dont mean everything in the GAA is rosy and nice, there are still problems present, but I mean that in my opinion there is a lot less problems than we had years ago.

If anything the problems are worse now than they ever were, loads of clips on youtube of assaults on players and ref's by supporters even at underage matches, such events regularly make the national headlines during the winter months when the county club and AI championships are in full swing, the Derrytresk and Dromid incident a few months ago being the last one. Racism is also becoming a problem in the GAA but thankfully they are coming down hard on that.
 
There's also a trend in GAA to dish out criticism far quicker than to hand out praise - I think it's an RTE inspired theme myself with the negative pricks they tend to roll out.

People focusing on how one team were poor tends to overlook the other team completely and Mayo have been a prime example of that all year. We scored 4-22 against Leitrim ("ah sure it's only Leitrim"), played poorly against Sligo but won ("ye all saw their true colours there, Mayo are shite"), scored 3-16 against Down ("Ulster football must be fecked") and now 0-19 against the reigning All Ireland champions ("never showed up for the first half").

Mayo were class yesterday for 50 minutes, real top quality football and well deserving of victory. Dublin showed themselves to be truly top quality champions in the last 20 minutes, they were never beaten until the 77th minute and even then we had to check the score board to make sure.

Why not focus on the positives of what was a hugely entertaining game?

Good post. The last one about how long the Mayo lads were on the ground for was very accurate too. As GAA fans we love to hammer the loser as much as praise the winner, and without having picked up a paper today you can bet for every one page of coverage praising Mayo there will be 3-4 doing a Dublin Post-Mortem and playing the blame game.
 
No problem. Youre putting me up in a few weeks....

Nice the way Gilroy never mentioned Mayo in his interview after....at least not in the clips I saw anyway.

He did mention the cynical fouling in a smart arse manner, but wasn't too bad about it saying that they were probably right to pull the men down on the way to goal at the end.
 
Dublin were awful. They cannot defend. They never get close to their men. I still can't understand how they won the All-Ireland last year.

And what the hell does Eamonn Fennell have on Gilroy to continuously be picked. He is absolutely atrocious. And he's a prick.
Yep. We were shite, and Fennell is worse than useless. How Bastick was taken off before Fennell is beyond me. Fennell is presumably there to catch the high balls, and pass it on, but when he isn't winning his fair share of high balls in the midfield, he's of no use. He's slow and immobile, and not in the slightest bit skillful.
Yep players get broken noses and teeth all the time, can't say I ever saw an opposition player picking a player with his face covered in blood up off the ground 3 times and fecking him back down again like a bag of spuds though, the Mayo lad wasn't even fighting back ffs.

Not really as big into the football as the rest of ye on here as I'm from the hurling area of Galway but I have to say as far as entertainment and excitement goes I think its gone back a good bit in the last few years but particularly this year. Cynical fouling, time wasting even diving has crept into the game a bit all that and certain teams tactics would be what I'd see as the main reason for it. Gaelic football could do with a few rule changes I think, countdown timer for free kick takers, get tougher on cynical fouling and maybe come up with some sort of an idea to make teams more attacking minded besides this blanket defence shite, passing the ball back ways and sideways more often than not.
I said nothing about O'Carroll reefing the Mayo lad up. That was horrible, but the actual incident which put the Mayo lad on the floor was nothing.

Don't go saying football is a dirty game while saying you're more into hurling! The game between Tipp and Kilkenny was a joke. So much niggly stuff, on top of full on hurl swinging at an opponent and neck-grabbing. For example, go to 1.03.21 in this video:



How he didn't get sent off there was a joke. It's not as if the ref can claim he didn't see it. It seems hurling refs these days are letting lots of stuff go, to keep the 'manly' aspect of hurling there. There was nothing manly about that from Maher, he could've took your mans head off ffs! So much things like that happened in that match, where the ref just let it go.
There's an awful lot being made of Mayo players going down injured and what not, but very little of it was cynicism. In the first half we had a lad break his finger, second half we had Varley break his nose, McLaughlin get a serious smack on the back of the head and Cafferky had a bad clash of heads with O'Gara. All legitimate reasons to go down.

Who else went down? There were a couple of lads that went down with cramp, but was it really more than a couple? Was it really worth talking about?

I can't remember a football game that had 5 minutes of injury time (apart from the rare occasion where an ambulance is called or someone breaks a leg or that), let alone a game where 5 minutes are signaled and 7 are played. Is there that much grounds for complaint?



Agreed, nothing really happened there. Varley went to shoulder the Dub as he ran by, caught him in the wrong place and broke his nose.

Rory O'Carroll proved to be quite the arsehole thereafter though.
First of all, I'm pretty sure Varley is fine now, no broken nose, which is good news.

5 minutes of injury time was justified, and you couldn't have complained if it was 6 or even 7. He played 7 minutes as another Mayo lad went down in that time, while a few subs were made. Also, he wasn't going to blow it up in the middle of a Dublin attack. They never do.

Yeah, what O'Carroll did was arse-hole-y.

There's also a trend in GAA to dish out criticism far quicker than to hand out praise - I think it's an RTE inspired theme myself with the negative pricks they tend to roll out.

People focusing on how one team were poor tends to overlook the other team completely and Mayo have been a prime example of that all year. We scored 4-22 against Leitrim ("ah sure it's only Leitrim"), played poorly against Sligo but won ("ye all saw their true colours there, Mayo are shite"), scored 3-16 against Down ("Ulster football must be fecked") and now 0-19 against the reigning All Ireland champions ("never showed up for the first half").

Mayo were class yesterday for 50 minutes, real top quality football and well deserving of victory. Dublin showed themselves to be truly top quality champions in the last 20 minutes, they were never beaten until the 77th minute and even then we had to check the score board to make sure.

Why not focus on the positives of what was a hugely entertaining game?
Agree with this, and the Sunday Game has gone to shite imo. But its not only in GAA, it seems to be all over Ireland these days.
If anything the problems are worse now than they ever were, loads of clips on youtube of assaults on players and ref's by supporters even at underage matches, such events regularly make the national headlines during the winter months when the county club and AI championships are in full swing, the Derrytresk and Dromid incident a few months ago being the last one. Racism is also becoming a problem in the GAA but thankfully they are coming down hard on that.

Yeah, I regularly hear of bust-ups at club level. Sure I even heard of two mentors from an U10 match fighting on the side line! It's crazy. Racism is still a problem in the North especially, and some players have been forced to stop playing as a result of it.
 
Will Gilroy get another year?? Is there any desire from the fans up there to get rid?

He seemed clueless this year, especially yesterday.

Playing, and persisting with Fennell yesterday was a disgrace. Even attempting to put on Alan Brogan was stupid. You could see that he could barely run a minute after he came on! Playing McAuley at 11 was again, stupid. He's our best midfielder, and it should've been a McAuley-Bastick duo in midfield. McAuley offers everything Fennell does, and a whole lot more.

Vs Laios in the QF, he put on Kilkenny, widely tipped as the best young forward in Ireland, and played him in midfield/half forward! He showed yesterday in glimpses that he is a corner forward, and is a great point scorer, getting 3 points from play.

Wouldn't be surprised if he left tbh.
 
There's also a trend in GAA to dish out criticism far quicker than to hand out praise - I think it's an RTE inspired theme myself with the negative pricks they tend to roll out.

People focusing on how one team were poor tends to overlook the other team completely and Mayo have been a prime example of that all year. We scored 4-22 against Leitrim ("ah sure it's only Leitrim"), played poorly against Sligo but won ("ye all saw their true colours there, Mayo are shite"), scored 3-16 against Down ("Ulster football must be fecked") and now 0-19 against the reigning All Ireland champions ("never showed up for the first half").

Mayo were class yesterday for 50 minutes, real top quality football and well deserving of victory. Dublin showed themselves to be truly top quality champions in the last 20 minutes, they were never beaten until the 77th minute and even then we had to check the score board to make sure.

Why not focus on the positives of what was a hugely entertaining game?

That's just the media.

If we won I wouldn't care any more or less about Mayo. If it I was a neutral it'd be different.

Papi and scousers apart that's how it works for most folk.

I think all of us Dubs said fair play yesterday in this thread ... and yes, then did some navel gazing.
 
Don't go saying football is a dirty game while saying you're more into hurling! The game between Tipp and Kilkenny was a joke. So much niggly stuff, on top of full on hurl swinging at an opponent and neck-grabbing.

How he didn't get sent off there was a joke. It's not as if the ref can claim he didn't see it. It seems hurling refs these days are letting lots of stuff go, to keep the 'manly' aspect of hurling there. There was nothing manly about that from Maher, he could've took your mans head off ffs! So much things like that happened in that match, where the ref just let it go.

I never brought dirty play into the equation at all when talking about football or hurling, I wasn't even comparing the codes but just saying I thought football wasn't as entertaining as it once was these days.

I know both are dirty with hurling being miles worse. I think I made reference to the dirty play of the Tipp lads in that match v KK in a post here. The incident where Maher went in with one hand on the hurl nearly slicing off a few of Michael Rices fingers and still stayed on the pitch was a disgrace. KK are well known for their dirt as well too though and your right the refs are letting a lot more incidents go nowadays. Unfortunately it'll probably take a serious injury to a player for that to stop though.


Yeah, I regularly hear of bust-ups at club level. Sure I even heard of two mentors from an U10 match fighting on the side line! It's crazy. Racism is still a problem in the North especially, and some players have been forced to stop playing as a result of it.

Few incidents of it happening down south as well.

http://www.irishtimes.com/newspaper/ireland/2012/0814/1224322137653.html

Thankfully though the GAA is coming down hard on it. Hopes are high here in Galway of a young Brazilian playing for the senior team in a few years time, a full forward line of Joe Canning and Denilson would be scary enough!
 
Not sure about Gilroy for another year.

Weren't there rumours he wanted to quit after they won last year and was persuaded into giving it one more go to try and retain the title?

I think he might pack it in.

In other news: what do people think of Eamonn Fitzmaurice getting the Kerry manager's job?
 
More of the same for Kerry. Problem for the rest of us is that 'more of the same' down there is usually good enough for a Sam or two. Who was the last Kerry manager not to win one?