Gaa 2012
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That old chestnut, ya whah
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Eamonn Fitzmaurice?!?
Micko stayed until 1989.
1990-1992 Mickey Ned O'Sullivan All Irelands 0; Munster titles 1, League titles 0.
1993-1995 Denis Ogie Moran All Irelands 0; Munster titles 0, League titles 0.
Isn't that amazing that you have to go so far back to find a manager who didn't win an All-Ireland. The weight of expectation must be completely immense on those players and managers.
Kerry didn't win an All Ireland until 1903. Since then, the longest drought they had was 1986-1997...a period dominated by Meath, Cork and Ulster teams. Since then, it's only been 4 years and that will be reached again next year. The success rate is amazing, but we may well see a fall from the peak of football for a few years.
Fitzmaurice's job will be very difficult and he may have been better advised to hold off until the players he played with were gone. He may have to make some very tough decisions about former team-mates next year.
Yep, but like all these big jobs if you get offered it you're going to take it. It's the highest honour for a Kerry man (apart from Daithi O'Shea presenting the Rose) so you grab it with both hands and try to win your All-Ireland.
Amazing county though, They just produce amazing teams and players at a rate no-one else can come close to.
Amazing county though, They just produce amazing teams and players at a rate no-one else can come close to.
Oh yeah, now that the dubs are out it may be worth while asking.
Anyone got any All-Ireland football tickets.
Love you long time and all that!!
Anyone got any All-Ireland football tickets.
Love you long time and all that!!
what's the prediction on the hurling final next Sunday - the Cats again?
Galway
Kilkenny for me, looked strong against Tipp in the second half and are a dangerous animal when they have a point to prove.
If they can keep Canning quiet (big if) and avoid giving away too many frees within 70 yards, they're home and dry for me.
If they can keep Canning quiet (big if) and avoid giving away too many frees within 70 yards, they're home and dry for me.
I got me 2 free tickets for the hurling final today!!!!
The fecker who gave me them asked who was playing in the final! fecker shouldnt be allowed touch the tickets at all at all.
The fecker who gave me them asked who was playing in the final! fecker shouldnt be allowed touch the tickets at all at all.
You did well to get those tickets, I'm getting two for the hill from a lad on Friday morning and am very lucky to be getting them at all, they are like gold dust here atm and are going for crazy money on some sites.
I see Pat Gilroy has called it a day, said it was for family and career reasons which is understandable enough and Jason Ryan the Wexford manager resigned, I wouldn't be surprised to see Dublin going for him now, he did a good job with Wexford getting them to a Leinster final and an All Ireland semi final.
Has Dublin gone for outside managers before?
They have in hurling, but as far as I remember, they've always had Dub;in football managers. Then again, you never know, they might have had some culchie back in the day.
edit: Wasn't Tommy Lyons a culchie?
Pat Gilroy 2009-2012
Paul Caffrey 2004-2009
Tommy Lyons 2002-2004 - born Mayo.
Tommy Carr 1999-2002 - strong links to Tipp & brother hurled for them.
Mickey Whelan 1995-1997
Pat O'Neill 1992-1995
Paddy Cullen 1991-1992
Gerry McCaul 1986-1990
Brian Mullen, Sean Doherty & Robbie Kelleher 1986
Kevin Heffernan 1979-1985
Tony Hanahoe 1977-1978
Kevin Heffernan 1974-1976
before that, the wiki trail dries up.
Paul Caffrey 2004-2009
Tommy Lyons 2002-2004 - born Mayo.
Tommy Carr 1999-2002 - strong links to Tipp & brother hurled for them.
Mickey Whelan 1995-1997
Pat O'Neill 1992-1995
Paddy Cullen 1991-1992
Gerry McCaul 1986-1990
Brian Mullen, Sean Doherty & Robbie Kelleher 1986
Kevin Heffernan 1979-1985
Tony Hanahoe 1977-1978
Kevin Heffernan 1974-1976
before that, the wiki trail dries up.
What did we do before Wiki??
Make it up/Actually remember shit.
It appears some Donegal supporters gave Spillane a few pucks or assaulted him outside Croke Park after the Cork match.
http://www.donegaldemocrat.ie/news/local/spillane-assaulted-by-donegal-supporters-1-4226073
http://www.donegaldemocrat.ie/news/local/spillane-assaulted-by-donegal-supporters-1-4226073
Ok, my football predictions were'nt too accurate, but woow my hurling ones were'nt too bad. I just hope come Sunday afternoon, Galway upset my final predictions!
Come on the Tribesmen!
Not long to go now! This time tomorrow Galway will be looking to do what no team has done in the past and beat whats deemed as the best Hurling team in history twice in a row and win our 1st All Ireland since 1988 in the process. Can it be done?!
Keith Barry predicted a 1 point victory for Galway so did that postman above in Donegal, he saw a cat walking backwards into a hay shed or something so its looking good lads!
Keith Barry predicted a 1 point victory for Galway so did that postman above in Donegal, he saw a cat walking backwards into a hay shed or something so its looking good lads!
Heading up in the morn ... come on the Tribes
Disgraceful shite that that a man coming out of his lace of work can't get to his car without being set upon by a mob of drunken arseholes.
GGGGGGGGGGGGG..Galway! I hope they do it when it really counts.
Some fecking game this is....
Replay, GAA rubbing their hands at this money spinner then!
Joe Canning has some bottle about him.
Galways tactics in 2nd half was shocking
Delighted Galway got the draw, putting a potential game-winning penalty over the bar is such a pussy move.
I was shocked Henry threw it over
€80 a ticket for the three stands. €40 for the Hill.
So its €80X73k plus €40X9k
€5840000 plus €360,000 = 6.2mil euros.
Of course you have to take out their costs put it must be worth at least €4mil to them.
€80 a ticket for the three stands. €40 for the Hill.
So its €80X73k plus €40X9k
€5840000 plus €360,000 = 6.2mil euros.
Of course you have to take out their costs but it must be worth at least €5mil to them.
They say it takes 30k to break even in Croker. They make an absolute killing there then.
The break even figure is also using a lower ticket price as well. Probably around 25euros. If the football final ends in a draw they would be minted.
Got a pair of tickets handed to me for free this morning Great games. Hoping the Dubs can win the replay.
Senior game was good. I thought that was a bit of a bottle job by Shefflin at the end there, but I suppose you can't blame him. Typical GAA blowing it up right on 73minutes to get another few million in! If there had've been a point in it, he wouldn't have blown it up, but again, you can't blame him! Galway, unfortunately, didn't really learn from the mistakes they made against Cork, and it nearly cost them. Hoping for a Galway win in three weeks, as I'm sure most of Ireland are!
Great games. Hoping the Dubs can win the replay. Senior game was good. I thought that was a bit of a bottle job by Shefflin at the end there, but I suppose you can't blame him. Typical GAA blowing it up right on 73minutes to get another few million in! If there had've been a point in it, he wouldn't have blown it up, but again, you can't blame him! Galway, unfortunately, didn't really learn from the mistakes they made against Cork, and it nearly cost them. Hoping for a Galway win in three weeks, as I'm sure most of Ireland are!
I thought Shefflin was right. Kilkenny finished the first half on a high, rattling off 3points on the trot. They were far superior in the 2nd and Galway only stayed in touch with a goal against the run of play. Shefflin made the call that with 90 seconds left, given they'd outscored Galway 11-4 to that point of the half....that Kilkenny would hold on.
Delighted for Joe too. DJ was on the radio after and said that he didn't want a win where Joe had missed. Class comment from a class hurler.
Galway played the 2nd half more to contain Kilkenny than drive on and they were lucky to get away with it.
Delighted for Joe too. DJ was on the radio after and said that he didn't want a win where Joe had missed. Class comment from a class hurler.
Galway played the 2nd half more to contain Kilkenny than drive on and they were lucky to get away with it.
That was class from DJ alright. Great game, full of twists and turns. Delighted with how Galway played despite the forward line playing as far back as they did in the 2nd half, I was in the hill and it was terrible annoying to see our half backs working like trojans trying to keep Kilkenny out and launching ball after ball into the Kilkenny backs only for them to be caught with ease unchallenged and driven back down again as quick as it came up. Galway showed great heart tough and didn't fold or cave in like teams usually do when Kilkenny came back and went a point up, that was a true test of character and a sign of just how far Cunningham has taken this team.
Hard to blame Shefflin for putting that penalty over as if he had missed the goal which there was a good chance he could have given the way Skehill was playing in goals and had Galway replied with a point Kilkenny were in serious trouble with only a minute or two left. Lots of people behind Cody were saying Cody signaled to Shefflin to pop it over too despite Cody denying it when asked last night. Canning had some bottle to level it up in the dying seconds particularly after missing a few minutes earlier, over 200 points in 20 Championship games he has to his name now, he's something else and just 23 as well.
I see the GAA have reduced the ticket prices for the replay too, €50 in the stands and €25 for the hill which is good to see.
Gaillimh Abú!
Hard to blame Shefflin for putting that penalty over as if he had missed the goal which there was a good chance he could have given the way Skehill was playing in goals and had Galway replied with a point Kilkenny were in serious trouble with only a minute or two left. Lots of people behind Cody were saying Cody signaled to Shefflin to pop it over too despite Cody denying it when asked last night. Canning had some bottle to level it up in the dying seconds particularly after missing a few minutes earlier, over 200 points in 20 Championship games he has to his name now, he's something else and just 23 as well.
I see the GAA have reduced the ticket prices for the replay too, €50 in the stands and €25 for the hill which is good to see.
Gaillimh Abú!
Great game, great atmosphere. Draw a fair result. Hope to make replay as well. I think Galway can learn more from this game than Cats, so I fancy we could be celebrating in 3 weeks.
ps; I believe Jason McAteer, Robbie Fowler & Steve McMenamon were at the game. It would be interesting to get their thoughts on it!
pps; Thank God, the replay does not clash with United's game,. We play Spurs Sat. eve @5.30.
ps; I believe Jason McAteer, Robbie Fowler & Steve McMenamon were at the game. It would be interesting to get their thoughts on it!
pps; Thank God, the replay does not clash with United's game,. We play Spurs Sat. eve @5.30.
I'm surprised at all the comments about "great game" and all that on here. Granted, I watched it Monday evening Sydney time, so I already knew the result, so I didn't have the same tension or nerves that I would have had watching it live.
However, the game itself was pretty poor quality, a lot of wides - way more than normal for a good quality game of hurling, or at least it felt like more than normal - including several missed frees from both teams and feck all scores from play.
Kilkenny dominated the last 40 or so minutes of the game yet only scored 8 points from play - poor stuff.
I'm hoping it won't happen again in the replay - I've a feeling that one or other of them will find form and blow the other away.
It has me thinking though - is there any team other than Galway that will look back on 2012 as a good year or even a year in which they improved? Kilkenny seem to be on the way down, Tipp weren't near last year's level, Cork will be reasonably happy maybe?
Other than that, Limerick, Clare, Wexford, Offaly, Waterford... can anyone see any of them challenge over the next while? Dublin have had nearly every penny in the GAA thrown at developing hurling there over the last while, and maybe they can come good, but 2012 wasn't a step up from 2011 for them either.
Or am I overplaying the standard of hurling from a few years back? Mid 90s, it seemed like everyone in it had a chance. For 2013, is there anyone outside Kilkenny, Galway and Tipp likely to challenge for Liam?
However, the game itself was pretty poor quality, a lot of wides - way more than normal for a good quality game of hurling, or at least it felt like more than normal - including several missed frees from both teams and feck all scores from play.
Kilkenny dominated the last 40 or so minutes of the game yet only scored 8 points from play - poor stuff.
I'm hoping it won't happen again in the replay - I've a feeling that one or other of them will find form and blow the other away.
It has me thinking though - is there any team other than Galway that will look back on 2012 as a good year or even a year in which they improved? Kilkenny seem to be on the way down, Tipp weren't near last year's level, Cork will be reasonably happy maybe?
Other than that, Limerick, Clare, Wexford, Offaly, Waterford... can anyone see any of them challenge over the next while? Dublin have had nearly every penny in the GAA thrown at developing hurling there over the last while, and maybe they can come good, but 2012 wasn't a step up from 2011 for them either.
Or am I overplaying the standard of hurling from a few years back? Mid 90s, it seemed like everyone in it had a chance. For 2013, is there anyone outside Kilkenny, Galway and Tipp likely to challenge for Liam?
Explain to me why you think Kilkenny are on the way down? They won the All Ireland last year, they are back in the final again this year, Shefflin is still racking up 9/10 points a game, they have quality all over the pitch and another batch of U-21's in the final at the weekend ready to take over.
In relation to the final last Sunday when it comes to entertainment it was top notch. Brilliant displays, great scores, loads of mistakes and controversial decisions right up to the final whistle. All reasons why many regard it as a great game. Hopefully the football final will be as good in a fortnights time.
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For 2013: Clare a young team looked very good this year and are definitely on the way up, Limerick held out against Kilkenny right up until the last 10/15 mins another young team and Cork gave Galway a game all teams that I'd imagine will be very dangerous next year and on their day would be well capable of beating anyone. You'd be surprised how much progress a team can make in 12 months, look at Galway this year.
In relation to the final last Sunday when it comes to entertainment it was top notch. Brilliant displays, great scores, loads of mistakes and controversial decisions right up to the final whistle. All reasons why many regard it as a great game. Hopefully the football final will be as good in a fortnights time.
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For 2013: Clare a young team looked very good this year and are definitely on the way up, Limerick held out against Kilkenny right up until the last 10/15 mins another young team and Cork gave Galway a game all teams that I'd imagine will be very dangerous next year and on their day would be well capable of beating anyone. You'd be surprised how much progress a team can make in 12 months, look at Galway this year.
Re Kilkenny - just get the feeling that the likes of JJ and (dare I say it) Tommy Walsh aren't as dominant as in the past. Sunday was also about the most ineffective I've seen Larkin and Fogarty - just not at the races the same way they were a few years back.
No doubt that the entertainment was top notch, but other than for the romance of having Galway involved and the great support and atmosphere that brought, it was a largely forgettable final.
Then again, I'm a forward all my life, any game where backs are on top annoys me!
Fair enough but I don't think Kilkenny are in decline at all, I think over the last decade or so they raised the bar, they took hurling to a new level and it's only now that teams are starting to catch up. The stories I'm hearing about what Anthony Cunningham and this Galway team are doing behind the scenes training and preparation wise this year is remarkable.