Gaa 2011

[Red Hand Devil]

Bad winners?

You get a hammering and look for solace on internet message boards. The idea is to give stick back. The great thing about the GAA was the fans ability to take stick. I have lost more big matches as a fan at Croker than I care remember and have always gotten stick and never thought it disprespectful, just par for the course when we played like big girls.

I was there, you just seem to be a bad loser. The only thing that I haven't seen before by winning fans was the Olé-ing when we were hand passing with a minute left, but most of the Tyrone supporters had left by then, proper fans that ye are.

You come on an internet message board an call us city fans and other baseless nonsense, when really yesterday was the time to show your support, but like all the Tyrone fans I was surrounded by you were probably sat there in stunned silence.

Find me one newspaper report to back up your theory and I'll put me not hearing it dwon to bias.

"Congrats to Dublin, excellent display & fully deserved win. They'll be hard to beat thats for sure..

...the Dubs players were outstanding, some brilliant individual performances - too many to mention. Fair play!"

Yeah thats me being a bad loser alright...

 

[moses]

"Congrats to Dublin, excellent display & fully deserved win. They'll be hard to beat thats for sure..

...the Dubs players were outstanding, some brilliant individual performances - too many to mention. Fair play!"

Yeah thats me being a bad loser alright...

Crying about stick was more my point. But as usual you just like to make your nonsense statements and not feel the need to back them up. Only a fool would have a go at the team's performance so you whine about the fans 'jeering'. Jeering ffs. So yes, a bad loser.

 

[De Selby]

Cork fans are the worst I've encountered. They were throwing bottles onto the pitch and onto the lower tiers when we beat them at Croke Park a few years back- it was a bad-tempered match and when Colin Corkey got sent off some of their fans just lost it. The media never reported it, though.

 

[De Selby]

I was just wondering, RHD, do you think Tyrone are the team of the last decade?

I'm not trying to wind you up or anything, I'm just curious as to what a Tyrone fan thinks.

 

[moses]

Cork fans are the worst I've encountered. They were throwing bottles onto the pitch and onto the lower tiers when we beat them at Croke Park a few years back- it was a bad-tempered match and when Colin Corkey got sent off some of their fans just lost it. The media never reported it, though.

I'm glad in way they didn't report it, there is a huge culture of banter and tolerance at GAA matches and unless it's pandemic then the media coverage can do more harm than good. Most fans accept the fact that when you win you get the bragging rights. I have gotten the piss taken out of me royally on many a day at Croker whiel we were getting hammered.

 

[moses]

I was just wondering, RHD, do you think Tyrone are the team of the last decade?

I'm not trying to wind you up or anything, I'm just curious as to what a Tyrone fan thinks.

They have to be there or thereabouts, them or Kerry.

 

[Red Hand Devil]

I was just wondering, RHD, do you think Tyrone are the team of the last decade?

I'm not trying to wind you up or anything, I'm just curious as to what a Tyrone fan thinks.

We've done well, but Kerry have been more consistent gettin to finals & winning them tho, but we're right up there with them.

The reason why we get that tag from some folk is because we've beaten Kerry along the way to win our 3 All-Irelands, so we've had the upper-hand in that respect.

Kerry are a bittuva machine & you cant help but respect them!

 

[De Selby]

I'm glad in way they didn't report it, there is a huge culture of banter and tolerance at GAA matches and unless it's pandemic then the media coverage can do more harm than good. Most fans accept the fact that when you win you get the bragging rights. I have gotten the piss taken out of me royally on many a day at Croker whiel we were getting hammered.

Yeah, you're right. Unless it's serious violence then it should be left alone.

There's always a handful of scuffles that break out after every big match. I've seen a few- mostly involving Meath fans actually.

 

[moses]

Tyrone might get the nod because of the new style of play they brought to the table. Saturday's match was Tyrone and Dublin swapping roles from a few years ago as far as the style of play and tactical approach.

 

[moses]

Yeah, you're right. Unless it's serious violence then it should be left alone.

There's always a handful of scuffles that break out after every big match. I've seen a few- mostly involving Meath fans actually.

It's a family day out now with very little worry, which is great as it wasn't the way when I started atttending in the 80s'. Then it was the Dublin fans, I was wearing blue and was still scared of them. Happily they used to sort out most of their differences on the Hill and leave the rest alone. But they also used to wreck all the cars parked around too. Although in saying that I did see a few cars broken into around Summer Hill on Saturday; I presume that was the work of locals rather than matchgoers though.

 

[De Selby]

We've done well, but Kerry have been more consistent gettin to finals & winning them tho, but we're right up there with them.

The reason why we get that tag from some folk is because we've beaten Kerry along the way to win our 3 All-Irelands, so we've had the upper-hand in that respect.

Kerry are a bittuva machine & you cant help but respect them!

Fair enough. The reason I asked is because I was reading a piece in the paper a couple of months' back and the journalist mentioned Tyrone as the best team of the last ten years. Perhaps they were.

 

[De Selby]

Tyrone might get the nod because of the new style of play they brought to the table. Saturday's match was Tyrone and Dublin swapping roles from a few years ago as far as the style of play and tactical approach.

That's a fair argument. But Tyrone never retained an All-Ireland during that period. I think if they'd done that then there'd be no debate.

 

[moses]

Saying that I would have always feared Kerry more, but that's probably just history haunting me.

 

[Red Hand Devil]

That's a fair argument. But Tyrone never retained an All-Ireland during that period. I think if they'd done that then there'd be no debate.

Yeah never retaining the All-Ireland was always a source of frustration, but every team has kinda struggled to do that, teams seem to be improving each year which make it harder to dominate - same as the Champions League in some respect!

 

[moses]

We did our best to help you by not improving for about 10 years.

 

[moses]

from a newb on the jeering

Do United fans slag City? Do Arsenal fans slag Spurs, its sport and there's always going to be huge rivalry's and GAA's no different, nor should it be. The last few times Dublin have played Tyrone there's always been a lot of tension between the fans never mind the players, There's always been a rivalry between Dublin and Tyrone, especially since the 95 all Ireland final

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where Tyrone feel they were hard done by.

The rivalry stopped for a while when Tyrone where too busy kicking the shit into every team they played because for the next fifteen years they showed no effort in playing football at all, rather there 'bully boy' tactics where 4 or 5 men would tackle the one player, there high tackles and cute dives, the aggressive and ruthless defense that would be more suitable to cage fighting, Tyrone may feel they got us back in 2005 through a certain Owen Mulligan (twat, on and off the field by the way), but if anything that just rekindled the great rivalry between the two counties that hit the fan here

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. Then there was the classic game under lights were Tyrone came out on top again, sine then Dublin have hated Tyrone (which may be immature but that's football for you) and when we got you back last year in the quarter finals it was brilliant, and this year Tyrone were certain they'd knock us out and from the start we blitzed them, Tyrone just weren't used to being the smaller, weaker team so they resorted to there 'cute' diving which unfortunately the referee bought, even still Dublin completely outplayed them and won, as you can see there's always been that extra bit of drama between the two counties and you cant expect hill 16 to be all nicey nicey about it, its football. Grow some balls and fight back, fairly.

Also, youse always drive in the fuccking bus lanes.

 

[Nialler]

RHD I'm not having a pop at you but your comment regarding jeering by Dublin fans make me think that perhaps your still hurtling a little in defeat. Jeering by GAA fans is not something unique to us Dubs it happens at all matches between rival fans and isn't always as vitriolic as you make out. Dublin have a huge support and thus can sometimes be seen to shout loudest because of the sheer volume of their support. I've witnessed and indeed been on the receiving end of some disgusting comments by Tyrone fans revelling in post match victory over Dublin. I remember being at a Dublin /Laois game in the late 90's and listening to a small minority of Laois fans subjecting Jason Sherlock to some of the most disgusting racial abuse imaginable every time he touched the ball.
On another note it was heartwarming to see a large number of Dublin fans clamoring to shake Mickey Harte's hand after the match on Saturday all of them wishing the Tyrone legend well.
Yes we Dubs are no angels but then the same could be said of certain sections among fans of all teams.

 

[Nialler]

RHD I'm not having a pop at you but your comment regarding jeering by Dublin fans make me think that perhaps your still hurtling a little in defeat. Jeering by GAA fans is not something unique to us Dubs it happens at all matches between rival fans and isn't always as vitriolic as you make out. Dublin have a huge support and thus can sometimes be seen to shout loudest because of the sheer volume of their support. I've witnessed and indeed been on the receiving end of some disgusting comments by Tyrone fans revelling in post match victory over Dublin. I remember being at a Dublin /Laois game in the late 90's and listening to a small minority of Laois fans subjecting Jason Sherlock to some of the most disgusting racial abuse imaginable every time he touched the ball.
On another note it was heartwarming to see a large number of Dublin fans clamoring to shake Mickey Harte's hand after the match on Saturday all of them wishing the Tyrone legend well.
Yes we Dubs are no angels but then the same could be said of certain sections among fans of all teams.

 

[moses]

On another note it was heartwarming to see a large number of Dublin fans clamoring to shake Mickey Harte's hand after the match on Saturday all of them wishing the Tyrone legend well.
Yes we Dubs are no angels but then the same could be said of certain sections among fans of all teams.

One Dublin woman in Cleary's pub afterwards said seeing Mickey Harte so sad ruined the day for her. She was roundly jeered in jest before everyone kinda agreed.

 

[De Selby]

Anti-condom weirdness aside, Mickey Harte seems like a decent fella.

Won't be sad to see the back of Eoin Mulligan and Ryan McMenamin, though.

 

[moses]

Anti-condom weirdness aside, Mickey Harte seems like a decent fella.

Won't be sad to see the back of Eoin Mulligan and Ryan McMenamin, though.

I lost my voice in my many attempts to tell Mulligan how I felt about his parentage and his weight problem.

 

[Nialler]

Mulligan has a face like the proverbial well slapped arse and I've heard he loves himself more than Brad (formerly of redcafe)

 

[moses]

Still for all his flaws that goal against us is what he'll be remembered for. I was in Croker that day, it was amazing in fairness to him.

 

[Nialler]

true

 

[Red Hand Devil]

from a newb on the jeering

That lad is one bitter twat... never read so much shite in all my life. Sure, its good to have a healthy rivalry but that hatred is his own personal mentalness - not Tyrone Gaa. The Gaa doesnt need that level of aggression from fans!

 

[Red Hand Devil]

RHD I'm not having a pop at you but your comment regarding jeering by Dublin fans make me think that perhaps your still hurtling a little in defeat. Jeering by GAA fans is not something unique to us Dubs it happens at all matches between rival fans and isn't always as vitriolic as you make out. Dublin have a huge support and thus can sometimes be seen to shout loudest because of the sheer volume of their support. I've witnessed and indeed been on the receiving end of some disgusting comments by Tyrone fans revelling in post match victory over Dublin. I remember being at a Dublin /Laois game in the late 90's and listening to a small minority of Laois fans subjecting Jason Sherlock to some of the most disgusting racial abuse imaginable every time he touched the ball.
On another note it was heartwarming to see a large number of Dublin fans clamoring to shake Mickey Harte's hand after the match on Saturday all of them wishing the Tyrone legend well.
Yes we Dubs are no angels but then the same could be said of certain sections among fans of all teams.

Well-balanced post there man

Not hurting at all mate, I was at the time but thats understandable. United cheered me up to no end on Sunday, so i didnt come on here with a chip on my shoulder about being beaten by Dublin whatsover. Sure i hadnt posted anything all weekend!

Dublin were a breath of fresh air, the quality has been pretty poor this year & last year aswell, so seeing Dublin playin that intensive brilliant football - even though it was us on the receiving end, i applauded it. Its great to see & I hope other teams take note of how you can play with intensity but also play with great panache. Marvellous it was!

I think Mickey Harte & the Tyrone players didnt deserve to be jeered like that tho, it wasnt the normal booing teams become accustomed to - it was spiteful & considering what a shit year its been for Mickey Harte & the panel - he would have felt pretty down about that, and we as a County feel his pain. You's beat us last year but none of that happened, so i guess the 7pm throw-in enables yobs to get pissed up all day & then stroll into Crokers & fling abuse left, right & centre!

Thats gonna be the end of a few of our players at County level now & gettin your face rubbed in it was uncalled for. It was a minority of course, but still with many thousands doin it. You were massively on top on the scoreboard & in play, with time running down, so to be that spiteful in booin very touch a Tyrone player got, showed a terrible disrespect to a fantastic team & manager that won everything together - Minor All-Irelands, Under-21 All-Irelands & Senior All-Irelands. Its sad gettin beat but its disappointin gettin stick like that.

On your point regarding Jason Sherlock, that lads been disgracefully subjected to mass racial abuse as much by Dub fans, as he has by other County's fans.. The Hills a swamp of that type of element, all you have to do is just add alcohol!

 

[moses]

another newb

The booing from Dublin supporters is terrible. The GAA is supposed to be built on respect. Respect when winning and respect when losing. It's the because we're all the same, toiling away at club level all hoping to gain success for the club and county.

That soccer element is unsavoury and no amount of derogotary and snide comments can justify what happens in Croke Park when fans boo opponents' frees.

Dublin fans will often justify it by saying that they were booed as well, but 50,000 Dubs will make a hell of a lot more noise than 10,000 culchies.

Its the first Dublin team since 1995 that isn't despised and I hope the fans don't turn the rest of the country against them. You say you mightn't care but everyone surely, would prefer to be a liked winner than a hated winner....?

(and Dublin have two major obstacles yet to becoming that winner yet).

 

[Irwinwastheking]

I've been to many many inter county games over the years, and not just ones involving Tyrone, and I can say for a fact that the only games where there is continual booing of opposition free takers especially from the very start in games involving the Dubs. Of course once they start it the opposing fans then join in, but it is the dubs that start it every time.

The dubs fans showed a typical distinct lack of class by booing what's probably going to be last appearance of some of the greatest footballers in the country over the last decade. That lack of class and basic respect for amauteur sportsmen is shown by a majority of your fans at all games, and it's little twats like that newbie who think that that's 'part of the game' that really get under my skin.

I wouldn't mind seeing the Dublin players win an All'Ireland as you have some excellent players who work very hard and keep their heads down. But because of the pricks on the Hill I hope you get hammered by someone before this season is out.

 

[Irwinwastheking]

RHD you're wrong. It's not a minority that boo, it's most certainly the majority!

 

[De Selby]

So we're all in agreement that Kerry are the team of the decade?

Grand, I'll be off.

 

[Red Hand Devil]

So we're all in agreement that Kerry are the team of the decade?

Grand, I'll be off.

Well no - its Cork. We're only 1 year in man

 

[Nialler]

For as long as I've been going to GAA matches (30 years) its been Dublin versus the other 31 counties and tbh I'm well used to it by now to such an extent that I hardly notice it anymore.
I had a good chuckle to myself listening to Colm O'rourke on the RTE panel the other night say that it would be great for the game if Dublin won an ALL-IRELAND with a big sneer on his face. He was obviously being sarcastic. No Meath man in their right mind would ever admit to this modern cliche. Sure I remember being in a pub in Navan watching Padraig Harrington play off against Sergio Garcia trying to win his first major and everyone in the bar urging Garcia to "bate that Dublin cnut". Imagine they wanted a Spaniard to "bate" an Irishman because he was from Dublin!
I suppose what I'm saying is that we're used to standing alone against our manure smelling country cousins so bring it on, it doesen't really bother us. Seriously.

 

[Nialler]

For as long as I've been going to GAA matches (30 years) its been Dublin versus the other 31 counties and tbh I'm well used to it by now to such an extent that I hardly notice it anymore.
I had a good chuckle to myself listening to Colm O'rourke on the RTE panel the other night say that it would be great for the game if Dublin won an ALL-IRELAND with a big sneer on his face. He was obviously being sarcastic. No Meath man in their right mind would ever admit to this modern cliche. Sure I remember being in a pub in Navan watching Padraig Harrington play off against Sergio Garcia trying to win his first major and everyone in the bar urging Garcia to "bate that Dublin cnut". Imagine they wanted a Spaniard to "bate" an Irishman because he was from Dublin!
I suppose what I'm saying is that we're used to standing alone against our manure smelling country cousins so bring it on, it doesen't really bother us. Seriously.

 

[moses]

That lad is one bitter twat... never read so much shite in all my life. Sure, its good to have a healthy rivalry but that hatred is his own personal mentalness - not Tyrone Gaa. The Gaa doesnt need that level of aggression from fans!

For a sensitive chap so put out by jeering at a game you have no problem insulting people yourself.

 

[Irwinwastheking]

For as long as I've been going to GAA matches (30 years) its been Dublin versus the other 31 counties and tbh I'm well used to it by now to such an extent that I hardly notice it anymore.
I had a good chuckle to myself listening to Colm O'rourke on the RTE panel the other night say that it would be great for the game if Dublin won an ALL-IRELAND with a big sneer on his face. He was obviously being sarcastic. No Meath man in their right mind would ever admit to this modern cliche. Sure I remember being in a pub in Navan watching Padraig Harrington play off against Sergio Garcia trying to win his first major and everyone in the bar urging Garcia to "bate that Dublin cnut". Imagine they wanted a Spaniard to "bate" an Irishman because he was from Dublin!
I suppose what I'm saying is that we're used to standing alone against our manure smelling country cousins so bring it on, it doesen't really bother us. Seriously.

I watched that play off in the Great Norhtern hotel in Bundoran, and I can tell you that to a man we were all shouting for Harrington and praying for him to win. I can't comment on what you saw but it was different to the attitudes of every smelly countryman I spoke to.

And me a Tyrone manure man just recently argued with several of your cosmopoliton collegues regarding Robbie Keanes status as a legend. Me being for more complimentary than all your buddies.

For a sensitive chap so put out by jeering at a game you have no problem insulting people yourself.

I'm sure RHD like myself have no problem taking a bit of abuse on-line, but for a little shit like that to say that he thinks booing legends of the game is fine, and compare it to other non-related issues just to justify his position shows he a twat.

 

[Nialler]

Slightly off topic but here's a little story that would have been a big story had Tyrone won.
Peter Harte used earphones while practising his freetaking during training last week with "Come on you Boys in Blue" playing at full volume so as to prepare himself for taking frees towards the Hill 16 end during the match.

In hindsight perhaps he should have turned the volume up to "eleven" a la Spinal Tap.

 

[Nialler]

Slightly off topic but here's a little story that would have been a big story had Tyrone won.
Peter Harte used earphones while practising his freetaking during training last week with "Come on you Boys in Blue" playing at full volume so as to prepare himself for taking frees towards the Hill 16 end during the match.

In hindsight perhaps he should have turned the volume up to "eleven" a la Spinal Tap.

 

[moses]

I'm sure RHD like myself have no problem taking a bit of abuse on-line, but for a little shit like that to say that he thinks booing legends of the game is fine, and compare it to other non-related issues just to justify his position shows he a twat.

A degree of jeering and booing a legend bewteen the first and last whistle is ok in my book; there are no sacred cows in sport, we all accept what an amazing team they have been, but when they are the oppo they are the oppo. Dublin players take guff too. I have no problem discussing this breach of the rather flexible moral code were it not solely aimed at Dubs.

edit - just for the record, I attend games and never boo the opposition, I do tend to hurl insults at players like Mulligan, is that ok? Anyway the booing goes on by both sets of fans in most games. So the outrage is slightly hyporitical.

 

[De Selby]

For as long as I've been going to GAA matches (30 years) its been Dublin versus the other 31 counties and tbh I'm well used to it by now to such an extent that I hardly notice it anymore.
I had a good chuckle to myself listening to Colm O'rourke on the RTE panel the other night say that it would be great for the game if Dublin won an ALL-IRELAND with a big sneer on his face. He was obviously being sarcastic.

I'm afraid that's just not true. I know plenty of Kildare fans who have no problems with Dublin. I also know quite a few Kerry fans who are exactly the same. In fact, to a man, the Kerry lads have only good things to say about Dublin GAA (probably born out of nostalgia for those matches in the '70's) and the city itself.

And I watched the coverage on Saturday and I never detected any sarcasm in O'Rourke's comment. I think he was genuine.

I'm sure RHD like myself have no problem taking a bit of abuse on-line, but for a little shit like that to say that he thinks booing legends of the game is fine, and compare it to other non-related issues just to justify his position shows he a twat.

Steady on there, Irwin.

 

[Red Hand Devil]

Slightly off topic but here's a little story that would have been a big story had Tyrone won.
Peter Harte used earphones while practising his freetaking during training last week with "Come on you Boys in Blue" playing at full volume so as to prepare himself for taking frees towards the Hill 16 end during the match.

In hindsight perhaps he should have turned the volume up to "eleven" a la Spinal Tap.

Jesus he was brutal eh?!

I really had high hopes for him in this match but he froze. He's a young lad tho, so hopefully he'll learn from playin on an occasion like this, its not easy thats for sure!

Oh, i dont get the "eleven" part man, whats that?