Gaa 2011

I hate Galvin. He's great the bastard. I had some great things to say on this game but I said it all in the newb thread as it's much Dublin - Kerry would be a better game IMO.

Post it here, man. I wouldn't mind reading it.

And one other thing:
Kieran O'Leary's a really good young player- his movement and work rate are excellent. I suppose people watching on tv probably wouldn't really get a sense of a lot of his work.
 
Post it here, man. I wouldn't mind reading it.

And one other thing:
Kieran O'Leary's a really good young player- his movement and work rate are excellent. I suppose people watching on tv probably wouldn't really get a sense of a lot of his work.

I was lying.

It was an interesting game though. Dublin beat Tyrone for 70 minutes and in almost every tackle, but Kerry's performance was as impressive in a very different way. They had only scored 3 points in the first 25 minutes of play, which is not a great way to start a game and a better side than Mayo would have given them a much harder time of it. But in fairness, Mayo didn't do their job but Jack O Connor did his and the second half display by Kerry was clinical, they sped up the play and hit Cooper every time and he made it happen and then with 7 or 8 points up they killed the game, in a way the Dubs have tried to do on a lead and beat themselves. Kerry did it properly in the positions they took up and when and where they chose to foul. Galvin was the epitome of what they did second half.

Mayo are a poor side and Kerry will lose to Dublin unless they can play for 70 minutes, and knowing them they probably can.
 
And knowing Dublin they'll probably ruin everything by losing to Donegal next week.

The thought of Donegal's uber-defensive tactics making it to an All-Ireland is a grim thought. I hope you hockey the feckers.
 
I think they'll do it this year to be honest. but in saying that I think there's as much chance they'll lose to Donegal as they will to Kerry. I think that if they do perform again as they sdid against Tyrone the momentum they'll have with them will be too much for Kerry unless they improve drastically. Which they will of course.
 
I thought Kerry were Kerry, natural footballers, very fluid and possessing that innate confidence that all Kerry teams seem to have. Dublin were complimented for their kick passing against Tyrone, Kerry's handpassing today was very slick with some very accurate long range passes from the fist. They will take some beating be it either Dublin Or Donegal. Unfortunately for Mayo they were, well Mayo.
 
I thought Kerry were Kerry, natural footballers, very fluid and possessing that innate confidence that all Kerry teams seem to have. Dublin were complimented for their kick passing against Tyrone, Kerry's handpassing today was very slick with some very accurate long range passes from the fist. They will take some beating be it either Dublin Or Donegal. Unfortunately for Mayo they were, well Mayo.

Not for the first 27 minutes Nialler and that's enough time to lose a game (I hope). But once Mayo ran out of steam Kerry were, as you say, Kerry.
 
Not for the first 27 minutes Nialler and that's enough time to lose a game (I hope). But once Mayo ran out of steam Kerry were, as you say, Kerry.


They should have raised the green flag within 22 seconds, I gulped a familiar gulp first gulped 28 years ago. In 1984 they destroyed the Dubs from the throw in, in my heart of hearts I knew the game was over even though there were 65 minutes left on the clock. Today I felt a similar shudder for Mayo even though Kerry seemed to labour for each first half point they scored. Whoever faces them in the final will need to be totally savvy as to what Kerry are about.
 
They should have raised the green flag within 22 seconds, I gulped a familiar gulp first gulped 28 years ago. In 1984 they destroyed the Dubs from the throw in, in my heart of hearts I knew the game was over even though there were 65 minutes left on the clock. Today I felt a similar shudder for Mayo even though Kerry seemed to labour for each first half point they scored. Whoever faces them in the final will need to be totally savvy as to what Kerry are about.

Aye a few years back they murdered us in Croker from the off, the game was over 15 mins in. I actually left early that day for the only time. Their movement and pace in that game was amazing, and they did it for 55 solid minutes and the rest of the minutes were just uncomfortable for all concerned. Galvin in particular that day had a free reign, his movement was mezmerising.

Dublin are fit now though and big and Kerry will have to do more than use their guile against them. They will have to play too, and they have a history of being able to step up. They day I describe above was all the more distressing because we arrived at that game on fire and they had really struggled in the qualifiers.

Exciting match though if we do get there.
 
I disagree with your analysis of the game in pretty much every one of your above posts moses. You're not giving Kerry enough credit for their performance.

In my own opinion, Kerry were a good performance from Donaghy short of an unbelievable performance in that game. First half they kicked a lot of ball into Donaghy that just didn't stick while they had runners going past him if he had got his hands on it - on another day for him Kerry would have been out of sight after the 25 minutes in which you reckon they were poor.

I'll make a bold prediction here, if Dublin get to the final, Kerry will have them put away by half time. I remember going to the 2004 final thinking that Mayo were up against the poorest Kerry team for the previous 8 years and it was all over for us 15 minutes in. They'll do the same to Dublin in September.
 
I disagree with your analysis of the game in pretty much every one of your above posts moses. You're not giving Kerry enough credit for their performance.

In my own opinion, Kerry were a good performance from Donaghy short of an unbelievable performance in that game. First half they kicked a lot of ball into Donaghy that just didn't stick while they had runners going past him if he had got his hands on it - on another day for him Kerry would have been out of sight after the 25 minutes in which you reckon they were poor.

I'll make a bold prediction here, if Dublin get to the final, Kerry will have them put away by half time. I remember going to the 2004 final thinking that Mayo were up against the poorest Kerry team for the previous 8 years and it was all over for us 15 minutes in. They'll do the same to Donegal in September.

Cant disagree with that :smirk:
 
I disagree with your analysis of the game in pretty much every one of your above posts moses. You're not giving Kerry enough credit for their performance.

In my own opinion, Kerry were a good performance from Donaghy short of an unbelievable performance in that game. First half they kicked a lot of ball into Donaghy that just didn't stick while they had runners going past him if he had got his hands on it - on another day for him Kerry would have been out of sight after the 25 minutes in which you reckon they were poor.

I'll make a bold prediction here, if Dublin get to the final, Kerry will have them put away by half time. I remember going to the 2004 final thinking that Mayo were up against the poorest Kerry team for the previous 8 years and it was all over for us 15 minutes in. They'll do the same to Dublin in September.

That's a massive leap, from scoring 3 points to being out of sight?

Yep, I know Kerry can step up, I said that more than once but they gave a poor Mayo side a chance.
 
That's a massive leap, from scoring 3 points to being out of sight?

Yep, I know Kerry can step up, I said that more than once but they gave a poor Mayo side a chance.

In those 25 minutes, they scored 3 point, missed 2 clear cut goal chances and kicked 5 wides. Like I said, out of sight.
 
Mayo dropped a few balls into the keepers hand and knocked a few wides. I'm juts going on one game, and they gave a really poor side a sniff is all I'm saying. At half time the outcome was not as clear cut as you say it was.

edit - and that's the sort of profligacy that is used to damn many a team over the last while, the dubs in particular.
 
Hi all GAA heads, was missing for a few weeks, a very sick PC, in fact had to shell out for a new one!

No point in dwelling over what happened in the past 6 weeks in the GAA world. Biggest shock I got, was the tame performance of the Galway hurlers against W'ford!... Not overally suprised at Cork losing to Mayo.

Sunday will be extremely interesting. Donegal will do "what they say on the tin"!..... Can Dubs overcome them?.... It's 50/50 really. Dubs will have to be in top form in all areas. As this is a big ask, I give a hesitant vote to Donegal & their meanest of defences!
 
Howaya.

Do you not think this Dublin team is a bit bigger and fitter than past manifestations?
 
I think we should stay schtum Moses, come back on Sunday evening no matter what.
 
Aye, I might not log on straight away, I have a 3 hour drive home afterwards. Could be a long 3 hours.
 
Mayo dropped a few balls into the keepers hand and knocked a few wides. I'm juts going on one game, and they gave a really poor side a sniff is all I'm saying. At half time the outcome was not as clear cut as you say it was.

edit - and that's the sort of profligacy that is used to damn many a team over the last while, the dubs in particular.

Accusing a team of profligacy in a game in which they score 1-20 is a bit much.

At half time the game was still somewhat in the balance, but I would still have put the house on Kerry to win going by what you saw in the first half, but maybe that's just the Mayo misery coming out in me.

And I wouldn't be damning the Dubs for profligacy either - more a lack of bottle to get over the line, similar to Mayo in many respects except Mayo's lack of bottle generally only kicks in at All Ireland final day whereas Dublin still haven't reached one of those since 1995.

I fully expect Kerry to blow away the Dubs (fully expect the Dubs to do the same to Donegal) on All Ireland final day. I hope I'm wrong though - I will be in Auckland that weekend for the Ireland/Australia RWC game so a good All Ireland final would make it a huge weekend. There'll only be one winner though.
 
Accusing a team of profligacy in a game in which they score 1-20 is a bit much.

At half time the game was still somewhat in the balance, but I would still have put the house on Kerry to win going by what you saw in the first half, but maybe that's just the Mayo misery coming out in me.

And I wouldn't be damning the Dubs for profligacy either - more a lack of bottle to get over the line, similar to Mayo in many respects except Mayo's lack of bottle generally only kicks in at All Ireland final day whereas Dublin still haven't reached one of those since 1995.

I fully expect Kerry to blow away the Dubs (fully expect the Dubs to do the same to Donegal) on All Ireland final day. I hope I'm wrong though - I will be in Auckland that weekend for the Ireland/Australia RWC game so a good All Ireland final would make it a huge weekend. There'll only be one winner though.


You're just looking for a row, I was distinctly talking about the opening 26 mins in which against a better side the game might slip away. No point in me saying it any more, I'm boring myself.
 
The Bomber Listen said afterwards that the Dubs would have blown the kingdom away had they been playing last Sunday.

You gotta respect the opinion of a legend.

Anyway its all ifs and buts.
 
The Bomber Listen said afterwards that the Dubs would have blown the kingdom away had they been playing last Sunday.

You gotta respect the opinion of a legend.

Anyway its all ifs and buts.
 
You're just looking for a row, I was distinctly talking about the opening 26 mins in which against a better side the game might slip away. No point in me saying it any more, I'm boring myself.

That's a bit bizarre, I'm only disagreeing with your opinion on the game.

The bottom line for me is that Kerry were far better than what you're giving them credit for and on another day could have scored 3-25 (or more) rather than the meagre 1-20 that they got. You can be bored by it all you like.
 
The Bomber Listen said afterwards that the Dubs would have blown the kingdom away had they been playing last Sunday.

You gotta respect the opinion of a legend.

Anyway its all ifs and buts.

Just another cute Kerry hoor!

Gotta respect the Bomber of course, but Kerry do this stuff all the time. If (when) Dublin win on Sunday, there'll be all sorts of Kerry folk in the papers in the build up to the final talking the Dubs up and talking about Kerry being the underdogs, trying to get the Dubs to buy into their inevitable hype. Then they'll attempt to blow them away in the first 15 minutes.
 
Just another cute Kerry hoor!

Gotta respect the Bomber of course, but Kerry do this stuff all the time. If (when) Dublin win on Sunday, there'll be all sorts of Kerry folk in the papers in the build up to the final talking the Dubs up and talking about Kerry being the underdogs, trying to get the Dubs to buy into their inevitable hype. Then they'll attempt to blow them away in the first 15 minutes.


Yeah thats very true but Dublin under Gilroy are a completely different Dublin to previous incarnations. He doesen't allow showboating and fist clenching to the Hill. His team are only focused on the next game. He fixes what went wrong in the previous game. Prima-donna's have no place in the teams he selects. If Dublin lose on Sunday it will be because they aren't good enough not because of pre-match psychology.
 
That's a bit bizarre, I'm only disagreeing with your opinion on the game.

The bottom line for me is that Kerry were far better than what you're giving them credit for and on another day could have scored 3-25 (or more) rather than the meagre 1-20 that they got. You can be bored by it all you like.

Stop, I said they were amazing in the second half, but that against a better side they might not have been given the chance.

And it seems the Bomber agrees.

They are the best side in the country IMO , but not above having the obvious pointed out.
 
The Bomber Listen said afterwards that the Dubs would have blown the kingdom away had they been playing last Sunday.

You gotta respect the opinion of a legend.

Anyway its all ifs and buts.

I'd say the Dublin team would ignore those kind of remarks.

Kerry people are experts at putting on the poor mouth when it comes to the football team. Or anything at all, really.
 
I'd say the Dublin team would ignore those kind of remarks.

Kerry people are experts at putting on the poor mouth when it comes to the football team. Or anything at all, really.

Aye, I'd be shocked if the Dublin management hadn't got some plan to protect the Dublin team from the media, well not the media as much as the Evening Herald.

As for Kerry, yep, masters of that.

In a totally unrelated story, I remember a semi-final in the early days of the backdoor system with Cork v Kerry at Croker, so I went along for the craic and was amazed at the support, it was about 4-1 in favour of Cork. When I asked the Kerryman next to me what the story was with that he answered without looking up from his program, 'no point travelling up twice in a month'.
 
Yeah, there's a sense of entitlement with a lot of Kerry supporters. I can understand why it would grate with many fans from other counties.

Most of my friends are Kildare supporters and they get excited about the provincial title, never mind the All-Ireland proper. Dublin fans are the opposite now- they couldn't give a shit about winning Leinster, they just want the All-Ireland.
 
Yeah, there's a sense of entitlement with a lot of Kerry supporters. I can understand why it would grate with many fans from other counties.

Most of my friends are Kildare supporters and they get excited about the provincial title, never mind the All-Ireland proper. Dublin fans are the opposite now- they couldn't give a shit about winning Leinster, they just want the All-Ireland.

Ah Kerry have won enough to be a bit cocky in fairness, and they were back 4 weeks later as predicted. I don't have any problem with a sense of entitlement, when Kerry are beat they rarely whine and for me that's what counts.

We won 6 Leinsters in a row or 6 out of 7 or something, and lost to the first decent team that we met every year, usually one that had come through the qualifiers, so it does change your focus, or the appeal, it's not about entitlement with us at this point as much as it's about desperation. We were all willing to focus on September and not worry about putting huge scores up against rubbish teams. It just felt more low key this year. Although I might be inventing that to make myself feel better.
 
Well, you've been getting gradually closer since '09. Gilroy could have packed it in after Kerry gave you a beating, but he's kept at it and you're doing well now. Plus, he seems like a decent enough fella...unlike some of his predecessors- Paul Caffrey and Tommy Lyons spring to mind.

There also seems to be a lot of big feckers on your team now. Even the smaller lads like Alan Brogan are fairly well built. Contrast that with Kerry who have Darren & Declan O'Sullivan, Gooch, O'Leary, Young, Marc O'Se, Walsh...we'll be fecked physically if we meet in the final.

Maybe.
 
The size and strength is a notable addition this year, we no longer seem to need to take little mid game naps.

Thing is Kerry have so much nous, being bigger and faster than them physically may mean feck all.
 
Their warm-ups are a sight to behold. It's half Gaelic football, half rugby before a game.
 
Hogan Stand Upper, section 730 for anyone that wants to say hello on Sunday.

Will you go to the final De Selby?
 
Does the Pope shit in the woods?

It's going to be a nightmare getting tickets if it's Dublin-Kerry, though. Biggest rush for tickets ever, I'd say.
 
Absolutely, mine is guaranteed if we get there and if me brother dies before the 3rd Sunday I'll include you in the auction for his ticket.
 
Absolutely, mine is guaranteed if we get there and if me brother dies before the 3rd Sunday I'll include you in the auction for his ticket.

My dad's a member of Laune Rangers Gaa club in Kerry, so free ticket for me!:D
Anyone know a way I can get some of the GAA games in England?
Dad's from Kildare and it'd be great if I could find away to let him watch the games.

Well, I think the RTE website shows the final worldwide. The rest of the Championship fixtures are for people in the RoI only. There's always the normal streaming sites on the 'net as well.

And it might sound like an obvious question, but have you tried heading down to your local Irish pub to watch the games? I'd say the vast majority of Irish pubs screen Championship fixtures.