Frenkie de Jong | The last muppeting lap

[Jacob]

Lock this thread until there's an actual update.

 

[Brownie85]

This is what gets lost in the pessimism and obsession for new signings. We have an exciting group of young players coming with potentially more than a few capable of making a major impact. Having a proper manager in place will make this an exciting process.

I think most people aren't patient enough to wait for these kids to develop. They want instant success and see that as arriving via transfers. Even though over the year we've seen that signings don't equal success all the time.

 

[hellhunter]

Aaaah ok then. So barca really are viewing things as de Jong is leaving, whether he like it or not (yes for those who question that, i know he can't be kicked out if he doesn't want too)

Not necessarily, just not featuring in their first XI plans

 

[Berbaclass]

Aaaah ok then. So barca really are viewing things as de Jong is leaving, whether he like it or not (yes for those who question that, i know he can't be kicked out if he doesn't want too)

Not necessarily. He's just going to be in the rotation. Pedri and Busi are pretty much locked in so you have Frenkie/Gavi/Kessie/Pjanic for the one spot.

 

[Brownie85]

Lock this thread until there's an actual update.

Nah, if you don't want to visit it, then don't.
No ones forcing you or anyone else to come in here are they?

 

[Brownie85]

Not necessarily. He's just going to be in the rotation. Pedri and Busi are pretty much locked in so you have Frenkie/Gavi/Kessie/Pjanic for the one spot.

But if you're de Jong as looking at that possible lineup, are you really wanting to tussle with all those other guys for just one spot? If you're not in the starting 11 with his talent, then is he really going to want to stay there?
I just don't know, but i think he has to look at that and think that his playing time is very very limited now

 

[Berbaclass]

But if you're de Jong as looking at that possible lineup, are you really wanting to tussle with all those other guys for just one spot? If you're not in the starting 11 with his talent, then is he really going to want to stay there?
I just don't know, but i think he has to look at that and think that his playing time is very very limited now

Also even if he does start he will very likely be the first substitute like last season which happened a lot which frustrated him.

 

[Brownie85]

Also even if he does start he will very likely be the first substitute like last season which happened a lot which frustrated him.

All in all it's not really looking good for him regardless.
Thats what makes me think that once the issues with his wages are sorted, he'd be open to joining. He'd be the main man at United and have a team built around him.

 

[lex talionis]

Is there any evidence yet that Frenkie actually wants to join United?

Not trying to prove a point…just wondering how likely this deal is likely to happen.

 

[florisW]

It should rather say unless he forgets about these 17mil

Would you forget about 17 mil you are still owed? What a madness

 

[Berbaclass]

Is there any evidence yet that Frenkie actually wants to join United?

Not trying to prove a point…just wondering how likely this deal is likely to happen.

There is no factual evidence either way.

We have had multiple reports stating he is open to joining and has repeatedly spoken to Ten Hag though.

 

[golden_blunder]

This is what gets lost in the pessimism and obsession for new signings. We have an exciting group of young players coming with potentially more than a few capable of making a major impact. Having a proper manager in place will make this an exciting process.

Exactly, we have to make a pathway and take a chance on our own too. This is an exciting group with high potential. ETH is the right coach at the right time I feel

 

[Rolaholic]

Depay was also brought on tour and yet he's being shopped...

 

[Berbaclass]

Depay was also brought on tour and yet he's being shopped

I'd take him here too.

 

[Escobar]

Would you forget about 17 mil you are still owed? What a madness

Me not but thats the game Barca tries to play

 

[Rolaholic]

I'd take him here too.

So would I if Ronaldo gets sold, decent versatile option to have up front. Not sure if he wants a PL return though

 

[Berbaclass]

So would I if Ronaldo gets sold, decent versatile option to have up front. Not sure if he wants a PL return though

Yeah, my thinking too. Not too expensive either.

 

[pascell]

Nah, if you don't want to visit it, then don't.
No ones forcing you or anyone else to come in here are they?

That's not the point. I've come into this thread a few times this week having worked all day, opened the thread to 10+ pages, flicked through to people saying the same thing as the previous day and absolutely no update.

 

[Berbaclass]

That's not the point. I've come into this thread a few times this week having worked all day, opened the thread to 10+ pages, flicked through to people saying the same thing as the previous day and absolutely no update.

So you're not happy that people are discussing a transfer on a football forum?

Check the transfer tweets thread if that's all you want.

 

[lex talionis]

There is no factual evidence either way.

We have had multiple reports stating he is open to joining and has repeatedly spoken to Ten Hag though.

Very helpful. Thanks!

What I’m struggling with is that it seems — emphasize seems — that Frenkie wants to stay at Barcelona. Dream club, all that. Every angle has been discussed at length here, but as of yet there appears to be no indication that Frenkie wants to leave Barcelona.

 

[SATA]

They want to sell Depay too? Any real source from this? First time I’m hearing this

 

[Brownie85]

Yeah, my thinking too. Not too expensive either.

Would he want to me back to United though? I mean I suppose he'd be happy to work under EtH. Would be a decent player of Ronaldo does go, but even that's looking a bit iffy at the moment. Seems no one wants him and Bayern have distanced themselves again

 

[Berbaclass]

Would he want to me back to United though? I mean I suppose he'd be happy to work under EtH. Would be a decent player of Ronaldo does go, but even that's looking a bit iffy at the moment. Seems no one wants him and Bayern have distanced themselves again

Martial simply won't play every game. He'd get plenty of minutes I think. Also we have plenty of Dutch lads who he's friends with.

 

[Daslogisch]

They want to sell Depay too? Any real source from this? First time I’m hearing this

Obviously they do. They have about a trillion other options now. They don't need Depay.

 

[RopersReturn]

Both McTominay & Maguire are faultless when it comes to effort. They simply lack the skills and attentiveness to compete at a level normally associated by a club of our stature.

 

[Dancal]

Any truth in the Bayern link ?

 

[Brownie85]

Martial simply won't play every game. He'd get plenty of minutes I think. Also we have plenty of Dutch lads who he's friends with.

I personally don't think Martial has what it takes to make it at United. He's had sl many tries now but after an amazing season or so he just trailed off.

I hope that Ten Hag can rejuvenate him but if an offer did come in I think we'd accept it

 

[JPRouve]

They want to sell Depay too? Any real source from this? First time I’m hearing this

It has been known for months but here you have a recent source. Also he is in the last year of his contract.

 

[Rolaholic]

Obviously they do. They have about a trillion other options now. They don't need Depay.

They're stacked at forward the same way they're stacked in midfield now too

 

[mav_9me]

Is there any evidence yet that Frenkie actually wants to join United?

Not trying to prove a point…just wondering how likely this deal is likely to happen.

What type of evidence do you want?

 

[reelworld]

What's the point of increasing the fixed amount to €75m if they're not using it to get it done with de Jong? Seems rather pointless.

 

[pascell]

So you're not happy that people are discussing a transfer on a football forum?

Check the transfer tweets thread if that's all you want.

Clearly haven't read what I and the other comments that I quoted so I'll leave it here, absolutely pointless discussion.

 

[Brownie85]

Is there any evidence yet that Frenkie actually wants to join United?

Not trying to prove a point…just wondering how likely this deal is likely to happen.

Thing Is we'd never know anyway... details of what's said between the clubs will never be public knowledge and what's leaked to the press is what they want you to hear to further their agenda and narrative

 

[Berbaclass]

Clearly haven't read what I and the other comments that I quoted so I'll leave it here, absolutely pointless discussion.

I read your post. Stop moaning.

 

[pascell]

I read your post. Stop moaning.

Clearly didn't. Stop talking crap.

 

[Berbaclass]

Clearly didn't. Stop talking crap.

I work all day too. Get over it

 

[pascell]

I work all day too. Get over it

Congratulations, you must be so proud

 

[OpenIntrovert]

Is there any evidence yet that Frenkie actually wants to join United?

Not trying to prove a point…just wondering how likely this deal is likely to happen.

Well the first step to any deal is by contacting the agent of the player. If FDJ did not want to join us, the agent could have just closed shop right there. The fact that we have continued pursuing the deal, shows that there is certainly a strong interest from the player.

Basically the recruiment staff knows how to assess if the player is really interested, so they are only moving with this deal because the chances are very strong.

 

[Berbaclass]

Congratulations, you must be so proud

No, not really. I just don't come in here crying. Grow up.

 

[FujiVice]

So would I if Ronaldo gets sold, decent versatile option to have up front. Not sure if he wants a PL return though

He's be straight here like a shot if we were in for him. He loves United.