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Frenkie de Jong | The last muppeting lap
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It'll be the end of multiple clicks and likes for Twitter hacks though. It's all getting a bit tedious now.
Great story, but Laporta should accept the position where the club's in, instead of acting like a dickhead against players and managers (Koeman). Mortgaging their long term TV rights is by no means a wise or sensible decision. Not accepting that they have to take a step down is by no means a good excuse or a required mentality to be a topclub. It's nothing but politics, sticking your head in the sand and guaranteeing that the future of the club is ruined. Laporta is not being a good manager by retaining the qualities on the pitch at cost of the future. Putting up his successors with an impossible situation, because he wants success now for his own legacy (at the cost of the clubs future).
If he would be a true top chairman he would face the problems, solve them and make sure Barcelona has a good future. Laporta is however a selfish prick, who is willing to disrespect contracts, disrespect players and managers and act like a complete dickhead to just hopefully get some short term success. This all so he can say the club was successfull under his reign. Everything for his own ego and then putting his successors up with an impossible situation. This is exactly how real politics work as well and is the exact reason why the world is on the verge of another total collapse. Advocating that he's doing the right thing here is absolute madness. Laporta is doing absolutely nothing besides being an absolute dickhead. He definitely deserves it to completely backfire on him.
If Barca don't win anything in the next 2/3 years, they won't have trophies, they won't have money and their players value won't be close to what they anticipate now. The club will be in absolute ruins in 5/10 years time. Even if they win 3 CL titles in the next 5 years they'll have a big problem, but then at least their players might have significant value. Their only way out is the Super League. The problem is they make it out like football needs the Super League, like football fans want the Super League. Only Barcelona, Juventus and Real Madrid want the Super League, because that's the only way they can keep living at the same standards. But that's their problem, not footballs problem. Football doesn't need that non sense. Football needs a level playing field, meaning FFP should become even stricter and there definitely shouldn't be a league created just for the benefit of a few clubs that otherwise can't keep living above their standard.
Zidane's really talented. Hope ETH gives him some serious minutes this season. I could see him being a starter in a couple of years.
Think the new substitution rules will really do wonders for a couple of kids this year.
Good point actually.
Yup i agree.
I'm hoping some of these kids take their chances and really impress the boss. Some of them definitely look like they have the talent to be starters in a couple of years for definite
Yeah it'll be great for both Zidane and Savage.
Hannibal and Garnacho too.
Does anyone know when Barcas first game is?
Plus with Xavi not being there, will those at the top tell whoever is in charge of the team to try and give de Jong a little nudge out the door by not selecting him, even though he's probably fit enough to play?
Plus with Xavi not being there, will those at the top tell whoever is in charge of the team to try and give de Jong a little nudge out the door by not selecting him, even though he's probably fit enough to play?
Good thing Ole is gone, won't waste these chances on Pereira and lingard.
Wrong on both counts. You’re actually proving my point from a few pages ago perfectly.
Let me ask you this, when has Neves been a regular in a side that even qualified for the Champions League?
He played a bit part in Porto qualifying for the Champions League 7 years ago, hardly convincing for this brilliant midfielder who is consistently outperformed by his partner who’s the wrong side of 35.
This chronic underrating of our own players isn’t fun, it’s just boring.
Inter Miami. 1 AM Wednesday in the UK.
Explains why he uses the la pelopina as often as he does
This is very interesting. It would solve and sort so much...
ACM- Bruno (VDB)
CM- FDJ (Eriksen)
DCM- Fred (McT)
Again interesting thought, thanks for sharing.
Not to get dragged into this mctom vs neves argument but this particular point is a bit silly. McTominay is an average player surrounded by above average players that dragged him along to the champions league. Neves is an average player surrounded by average/subpar players. McTominay is only a regular in a champions league side because he has decent players around him. It's not because of him, it's on spite of him.
Will be interesting to see what the team is and whether de Jong is even selected.
If he's not, i'd say it's pretty telling. Even if he's on the bench though, theres no guarantee he'll be playing any part in the game.
Don't do it to yourself mate
I'm sure he'll play for fitness. I'd rather he does if this is going to take another month.
What are the new rules?
I strongly disagree. McTominay has been a very important part of our team for a number of years, every bit as good as those around him.
Do I think we should improve if we can (see:Frenkie, although McTominay partnering him wouldn’t surprise me in the slightest) absolutely, but the idea that McTominay is dragging us back is bollocks.
Doesn't bother me at all pal. Means absolutely nothing at all play or not play.Don't do it to yourself mate
I'm sure he'll play for fitness. I'd rather he does if this is going to take another month.
This is going for the long haul, i'd be extremely shocked if it was done before the start of the season thats for sure
Neither of them are here anyway….Top of my head, subs bench extended to 9 players and 5 subs permitted per game but only 3 instances of substitions are allowed still, so there will be more times where 2 or 3 subs happen at once to take advantage of it.
5 subs again instead of 3 a là Covid. Lots of opportunities to give players minutes
Neves didn’t play a bit part for Porto. He literally captained that team from an incredibly young side. He’s played for a hyper negative wolves side, how is he alone expected to drag them to top four? He’s very good at what he does something which can’t be said for McTomminay.
Personally think McTominay has been badly used for years. Obvious he's not a defensive midfielder and is better used more offensively.
McT has been very much part of the problem. Unless he improves, he has no long term future here. He’s not alone (on past 12 months performance, most of them will be gone before we seriously compete again) but defending him seems like a waste of time.
Wasn't McTom a striker before going into midfield? Am sure i heard it mentioned during the match the other day?
Let me be clear here, I’m actually agreeing with you Laporta is playing the short game for his own ego and with the new FFP rules to come in from Uefa within the next two seasons where the club can only eventually spend 70% of it’s actual turnover on transfers, wages and agents fees. This will stop clubs trying to always buy success and put restrictions on state run clubs who can only invest up to £49m per season I believe
Let’s put that into perspective. united turn over £500m per season with last years wage bill of £325M(65%) we would have 5% left for transfers and agents. So we could have spent £25m last year or £20m net spend on a player and £5m agent fees.
Why do you think United and other clubs are trying to get so many big earners off the payroll. City are ahead of the game on this, growing their turnover, all be it by a shady Middle East bogus company, big transfers fees out and moderate ones in and a far more controlled wage structure than us. They would not sign Alexis Sanchez at 400k per week, Maguire at 250k or a 36 year old Ronaldo at 500k per week? La porta has no idea what’s coming because he just sees short term success and being lauded by the Barcelona members.
This is the real reason none of the top clubs want Christiano, no one wants £50m of wages for two years on your books when your about to be capped by UEFA from 24/25 season.
I think so.
And hopefully Facundo Pellistri too. I personally think he will be a superstar. There is something about him that I saw in his 1st few games for us. He is a 'naturally gifted player, the rest can be taught' type of player.
He probably got pissed and roped in some of his mates from Wings to have a bit of a laugh
I just don’t see how a player that can’t pass will ever be a top player. Technically McTominay is just miles off where we need to be. I couldn’t see him in Liverpool or City teams. I think Neves could do the Rodri role very well in comparison.
McTominay has been a key midfielder for us for a few years and midfield is and has been the biggest problem area, so of course he's played a big part in holding us back.
Yeah but he doesn’t have to, he can just say no and stay anyway. It would cause Barca a problem, sure, but that’s for the club to worry about - they can’t solve it by forcing players to accept lower salaries, they can only ask, they cannot demand it. You may imagine every player would be reluctant, yes, tough luck Barca.
Berba my bro. Is this FDJ transfer still happening?
Even stealing his food. They have no shame
Of course it's happening, the faith is still strong
My entire point is that he isn’t some anchor dragging us back. In fact he’s been a very functional part of a very functional team that regular played in the Champions League, but morons have some agenda making out he’s a Sunday league player who’d struggle in the Championship, when he has rightly been a regular starter for us.
The last twelve months was the blip, and it was bad, everybody was. People need to put their bizarre desire for XYZ (primarily British lads, weirdly) to be scapegoats behind them. Lots of these players are going to be important parts of Ten Hag’s plans. More importantly most of them are better than Ruben bleeding Neves or Youri Tielemans.
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