He knows if he’s on that flight by now. News will break this evening one way or another.
Frenkie de Jong | The last muppeting lap
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He will be on tour, I would be surprised if he isn’t’t
Pretty sure he will be on the plane to be honest but don't see how it makes a difference?
Obviously if he isn't on the flight then he's been told as much, and it's only a matter of time before he's out of there. He has no choice at the moment himself other than to continue to turn up and do his job. Last thing he needs is to give Barca any leverage at all in trying to invoke behaviour that's in breach of his contract.
I think some news from Spain or Romero will definitely break out tonight if whether he’ll be on the tour. Whatever it is, please do not post tweets from sport, they are just a wum desperate for clicks
I’m really curious to see what happens. I guess we’ll see how imminent the deal is tomorrow. If he goes it might just take a little while longer obviously.
Someone should ask Mikky
He'll be a United player before this window ends whether he joins the tour or not.
Keep the faith people. It's in the bag.
Keep the faith people. It's in the bag.
If he goes on tour it just means we get the joy of checking to see if he waves goodbye to the fans at the end of each game. There is always something to cling on to muppets, do not stumble now.
I'm gonna let off some fireworks if he doesn't make the pre-season squad
When do Barca go on tour? Is it later tonight or tomorrow?
Whether he goes on tour or not is irrelevant, the wage dispute still remains
Travelling squad will be announced at 1:30pm UK time tomorrow apparently.
My faith is strong. Had a wobble yesterday but I am restored once again. Until we brief that it's over, we continue going strong, this will be done
If Frenkie and his agent are confident and believe he has a strong enough case that deferred wages not being paid are violating the contract he signed with Barca, why does he not leave and take legal action as a Manchester United player? I mean, apparently he wants to leave now and is waiting only on deferred wages.. according to British media, right? Leave, sue the club and get the wages owed. If he needs to stay at Barca in order to take legal action against them.. he basically stays ( which he wanted in the first place 
) and collects his inflated wages.
My thinking is, he and his agent signed a naïve deal with the club as he had no thoughts of leaving or the club forcing him to. He has no case, and the threat of 'wanting his pay' is asking the club to pay him to leave which they won't do, he knows this, thus we have a standstill.
) and collects his inflated wages.My thinking is, he and his agent signed a naïve deal with the club as he had no thoughts of leaving or the club forcing him to. He has no case, and the threat of 'wanting his pay' is asking the club to pay him to leave which they won't do, he knows this, thus we have a standstill.
Out the end of your....
Not many people would allow their pride or ego to cost them to walk away from around €17m (or however much Barca deferred of his wage). I think it’s all just a negotiation tactic. He wants Barca to pay him what is deferred and Barca clearly are trying to force him out without wanting to compensate him for it.
Given Martinez won't be joining us on tour, get the feeling we'll be patient on this one for at least another week. May be a week full of today's updates being reworded every day.
Good man yourself!Barca is a mess.
I fully believe FDJ has no interest in playing for them again. This is just so he gets his money.
To be honest, if he’s coming and it’s going to drag on, we could do with him going on tour to get up to speed
Barcelona don't have a choice but to sell him at this point. Our only fear is whether or not another club jumps in that's more appealing to him.
The value of thinking things through before you speak!
100% he goes on tour. 110% it causes a meltdown on the caf
Saw this earlier but overlooked it as I assume/hope it’s a piss take. A poor attempt at humour, but there again this is the internet and guess it could be genuine
It’s like Botox to an ageing broadway star. Keep pumping it in, the show must go on!
If we don't hear anything tonight safe to say he's going on tour.
If he wasn't included shit would spread like wildfire.
He'll go on tour though, if the deal does fall through it's better he's there with them from Barca's pov.
He’s very dignified through this whole ordeal.
I'll be surprised if he goes on tour to be honest. The club have told him to leave and have officially agreed a fee with us so having him on tour goes completely against their strong need to sell and intention to send a message to Frenkie since having him on tour will give him slight hope he could stay but that's just me
A good point!
I think its quite possible this bleeds into January. Hope not but Barca seem pretty resistant to shelling the money right now and it might take Frenkie seeing out the window to find some middle grounds.
You are probably right. But make no mistake about it, it's absolutely disgraceful how Barca are treating Frenkie. They shouldnt have let him sign a new deal agreeing to pay his wages later and then force him out. That's disgraceful behaviour and you as a fan should be disgraced by this behaviour. Your club has become absolutely classless.If Frenkie and his agent are confident and believe he has a strong enough case that deferred wages not being paid are violating the contract he signed with Barca, why does he not leave and take legal action as a Manchester United player? I mean, apparently he wants to leave now and is waiting only on deferred wages.. according to British media, right? Leave, sue the club and get the wages owed. If he needs to stay at Barca in order to take legal action against them.. he basically stays ( which he wanted in the first place
My thinking is, he and his agent signed a naïve deal with the club as he had no thoughts of leaving or the club forcing him to. He has no case, and the threat of 'wanting his pay' is asking the club to pay him to leave which they won't do, he knows this, thus we have a standstill.
I hope Frenkie holds out. The best thing would be if he gives Barca a big feck you, staying and denying the club to register other players. He would be an absolute legend if he did that, for the simple reason that Barcelona shouldnt be rewarded for this disgraceful behaviour.
Yeah I will definitely be melting down, had real optimism he wouldn't travel when Murtough & Arnold were in Barcelona.
Arsenal were never planning on selling him though.
Am = ante meridiem (before noon)
Pm = post meridiem (after noon)
Latin innit. Thanks Romans!
edit- beaten to it by @Summit
Unrequited love is a terrible thing
It means Xavi isn't going to ostracise him to please the club. Which means he can stay without consequences
Military brat?Yeah, as I said in my edit I googled it... Never gotten the hang of am/pm since I use 24hr clock
It might bleed into January or next summer ala Sancho, you can't rule anything out at this point, but I can't see FDJ wanting to stay at Barca a minute longer after the club has told him to leave. Would you want to stick around after being told that?
Feel as United decided that the deal should be done this week or it’s off. First the statement going to Barcelona monday, then submitting the improved bid. ”We’ve done our part, now it’s up to you to make a deal with De Jong. Do it however you want but if it isn’t done by the end of the week, deal is off”. Now, maybe things aren’t as black or white and maybe that’s completely wrong, it’s just a feeling I have.
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