How exactly is Spurs closer to trophies than us ? Unless you see top 4 as a trophy ? I would say, we have a bigger chance of winning EL than Spurs winning CL next year.
Domestic cups - it's as good as anyone's.
Frenkie de Jong | The last muppeting lap
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Domestic cups - it's as good as anyone's.
We are really broke and have some very interesting youngters in his position. So I think if United really go for him we'll sell him.
Sounds like Barcelona will sell for a decent price and its more a case of convincing De Jong to come to us. That's where the stumbling block is going to be.
I’d be surprised if Conte is still there next season
On like Dejongey kong
It is all shit!
Barca's situation aside how would you rate him as a midfielder for us to build our new possesion based team around?
Agree with you, just by the way, spurs could also still win the EL next year.
I’m not really willing to believe this is even an option but if it was feel like we’d still need a DM. I know he’s not really a DM but DeJong and Tchouameni just makes sense. I like Fred and all but again he’s a player that is better when he’s allowed to go forward and not have as much positional defensive responsibilities.
So DeJong and a DM
So DeJong and a DM
City will be in the market for exactly this type of player.
Fernandinho is 37 and coming to the end of his time at City, probably leaving in a few weeks time at the end of this season.
Also, Gündoğan is 32 in a few months time and although he's likely to be still there for a couple more years, he's already being played less than over the previous few seasons.
If City need to buy any players this summer, it'll be a striker (already a done deal) and a new central midfield player.
FDJ fits right in there.
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The only reason player chooses Spurs over United if players used to work with Conte and at the same time players rate Conte very highly and belive that Conte can execute the project. This logic applies to FDJ that he would still choose us over Bayern, City and Liverpool because he used to work with ETH and at the same time he rates ETH and believe that ETH can execute the project and get the best out of him. Of course, if he doesn't rate ETH then the managerial factor is not there.
So other than that managerial factor, no players would choose Spurs over United. Man United are still bigger club with greater resources means they can always come back to the winning way. Just like what Tuchel said: ''Man United are huge club, they will always recover''
So you honestly believe he could sign then, can Erik sell his vision is the big question. Like I said he needs to make him feel he's the cornerstone of our new look midfield
I think they will be targeting a left back next.
Why people making it sounds like Tchouameni used to work with ETH while De Jong never rate ETH so Tchouameni is more realistic than De Jong?
De Jong has managerial reason to choose us. What is Tchouameni reason to choose us over others who are currently being mentioned as the frontrunners? None.
Yeah at least with him there is a connection whereas don't give us a prayer with Tchouameni
I expect Spurs to get top 4 this year.
Just to add his best position is already occupied by Rodri at City who is no slouch either just don't see City being the best fit for him .
Only a matter of time it seems, just like the Sancho and Varane sagas
If we did buy DJ and start playing DVB, how does Bruno fit in? As a wide attacker?
And it all relies on someone who can play it, is mobile, but is defensive, playing deep, which was the big problem this year.
For the same reason Bellingham chose Dortmund over us and other elite clubs being mentioned. He'd have one look at our midfield and think he'd be playing regular football. Would the same be said at Chelsea, Liverpool and Madrid? No, I don't think it would. Yes, he'd play, but he'd be rotated quite often, in my opinion.
The project that ten Hag will sell be an exciting one. Everyone is aware of what we want and the type of football ten Hag plays.
That being said, if I had a choice of the two, I'd go for De Jong any day of the week. Regards a tough tackling, dynamic midfielders, there's so many more other options. A player like De Jong; however, doesn't come round every day.
Rangnick, pundits and fans have been harping on about how we need to control games more. We need someone in the midfield who can not only pass, but have the ability to keep onto the ball under pressure. The more players we have like that, the more we can peg teams back and become a dominant force.
I'd be equally as happy with De Jong and someone like Sangare, for example.
Even Ajax fans on YouTube said he’s a 6. At 5:10
Both Schone and FDJ were the double pivot in your Ajax team. He’s more no 6 in double pivot.
Imagine we signed the 2 ex Ajax lads and Tielemans for crazy money. All players we could have picked up on cheap and without competition just after we faced (and surely scouted) them in the EL.
It's odd because we were heavily limited to de ligt but he said we were never ever in for him
He is a dm
Well, if you use that Bellingham's logic then you should use it on FDJ because he'd have one look at City and Bayern midfield and think he'd be playing regular football. By using the same logic on either players means FDJ is more realistic than Tchouameni because FDJ has more factors to choose United than Tchouameni.
Come on, let's be honest here. You can't use Bellingham's logic here on the two players. Both Tchouameni and FDJ have already went through the stage of Bellingham at Dortmund when they were/are in Ajax and Monaco. Their next step obviously wouldn't be the same with Belingham at Dortmund step anymore. Thus, the comparison is invalid. If playing regular football is what Tchouameni needs then stay at Monaco.
And in that same season, we also faced Hull City 4 times and could've easily picked both Robertson and Maguire for less than 30m after they got relegated.
This is good because we need players who look for the bustard ball
Depends how Arsenal respond to that defeat and if Spurs see off Burnley too
Wish I had your level of confidence, would certainly be a fantastic start to Erik's rebuild
Total rebuild minus a striker - less than 100 million. People will say oh we took a chance on amad and Pellistri but who is the last young player we’ve signed for the first team who was playing regularly and starting to make waves? We've since failed with Haaland and Bellingham and that’s about it. That’s the crucial market from a value perspective
Its not question of quality but everything else, from stuff i saw, rather pass on this one.
I do think ETH would get the best version out of him but a lot would depend on De Jong's hunger to succeed in the premier league too. I hope we only proceed with this signing providing he actually wants to be here. I would swiftly jog on to the next target if we need to convince him to come to be honest.
He hasn't performed as well as he did for Ajax. But Barcelona as a team has been shite the last three years so nobody not named Messi has actually played as well as before. Next season is going to be much better i'm sure of It and De Jong could have finally show his best football but I think we won't see it for financial reasons.
Tielemens didn’t play for Ajax.
So you feel could potentially be sold then
I think the poster probably meant De Ligt
Played for Anderlecht when we met them in the EL.
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