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Frenkie de Jong | The last muppeting lap
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Maybe not
Perhaps they should consider divorce lawyers as consultants for this deal now...
If I’m following this right, he doesn’t really want to leave Barca but he will as long as he gets his back wages. He doesn’t especially want to come to us but he will if the deal is right and because he likes ETH (if other clubs were willing and able he might prefer them but no other clubs are all that interested). Probably feels he won’t get his money even if he stays.
Barca want to make everyone involved in this look like mugs or worse and are pretty keen to shaft FDJ from all angles, blithely making new signings while blaming FDJ for bringing the club to its knees by having the temerity to claim what he is owed (no more). Probably they’d rather burn their own stadium down than lose face (or fulfill their obligations).
We want FDJ but we won’t accept a hosing. Probably we don’t have a realistic alternative and we are pressing on in the hope that the assurances we’ve been given will actually hold up (they often don’t).
Looks like if this deal doesn’t happen, everyone loses. At the same time, I can’t say it looks too rosy for anyone if the deal does happen.
Barca want to make everyone involved in this look like mugs or worse and are pretty keen to shaft FDJ from all angles, blithely making new signings while blaming FDJ for bringing the club to its knees by having the temerity to claim what he is owed (no more). Probably they’d rather burn their own stadium down than lose face (or fulfill their obligations).
We want FDJ but we won’t accept a hosing. Probably we don’t have a realistic alternative and we are pressing on in the hope that the assurances we’ve been given will actually hold up (they often don’t).
Looks like if this deal doesn’t happen, everyone loses. At the same time, I can’t say it looks too rosy for anyone if the deal does happen.
Fair enough.I was joking man hence the
Barcelona is Meryl Streep and Frenkie is Anne Hathaway
Perhaps they should consider divorce lawyers as consultants for this deal now...
He is not going to Paris.
It’s an incredible deal for us, we’re getting a world class midfielder in his early peak for a decent price
You have nearly 300 posts in this thread, you're clearly somewhat invested in this transfer. Stop pretending you aren't a transfer muppet and admit it...you're one of us.
Yeah I definitely rather be United than Barca right now.
What, when responding to me? Ok then. You clearly recall my Chelsea comments, so let's not lie to ourselves.
You have nearly 300 posts in this thread, you're clearly somewhat invested in this transfer. Stop pretending you aren't a transfer muppet and admit it...you're one of us.
Because I get caught up arguing with you lot
Because I get caught up arguing with you lot
So I think an important distinction should be made about his wages.
Initially it appear that they were deferred wages. This would mean in essence that Frenkie loaned Barcelona and that he accrued or earned those wages over the past few seasons with a view to being repaid on this loan over the remainder of the contract. Under these circumstances Frenkie would be completely entitled to sit tight and demand his money. He would also be entitled to this legally.
But I've recently read that the wages aren't actually deferred. It's just simply part of his contract that he'll be paid a lower amount initially followed by a pre-arranged wage increase written in the contract which begins at the start of the upcoming season. This would be a completely different scenario, and while it would mean Barca are behaving in a pretty morally reprehensible way it would also mean that legally Frenkie is not entitled to anything.
Anyone know for sure which one it is?
Initially it appear that they were deferred wages. This would mean in essence that Frenkie loaned Barcelona and that he accrued or earned those wages over the past few seasons with a view to being repaid on this loan over the remainder of the contract. Under these circumstances Frenkie would be completely entitled to sit tight and demand his money. He would also be entitled to this legally.
But I've recently read that the wages aren't actually deferred. It's just simply part of his contract that he'll be paid a lower amount initially followed by a pre-arranged wage increase written in the contract which begins at the start of the upcoming season. This would be a completely different scenario, and while it would mean Barca are behaving in a pretty morally reprehensible way it would also mean that legally Frenkie is not entitled to anything.
Anyone know for sure which one it is?
I thought that I didn't care until I checked my posts count. @pocco I feel your pain.You have nearly 300 posts in this thread, you're clearly somewhat invested in this transfer. Stop pretending you aren't a transfer muppet and admit it...you're one of us.
Has Van Gaal given his unwarranted opinion yet? Only way Frenkie gets on the plane to Qatar is if he stays at Barca right?
Incredible deal for us? Agree to disagree.
Frenkie will still be at the airport, bag and passport in hand.
When is the next round of positive news?
Yeah just saw on Barca Reddit
Another T3
This is a fair summary.
However he always been open to coming to coming united otherwise we would never have started negotiations. The official line from FDJ camp has been that he 'wants to stay' to ensure that he receives all of his wages owed to him on his way out as opposed to a transfer request which would leave the door open to forgoing the wages.
I'm surprised that it took a retweet from the El Partidazo de COPE Twitter account for utdreport to share this info, but better late than never.
De Jong absolutely has the right to sit there and tell Laporta: “that sounds like a you problem”. Barca have handled this thing so badly.
That MUTV interview is going to be awkward as hell
You’d not want him at the reported price?
I mean yes but it's more of what Barto did than Laporta.
That MUTV interview is going to be awkward as hell
Only if you believe he 100% isn't interested in coming, as in, the Spanish press garbage.
If you believe that his priority is to stay at Barca, but failing that he's spoken multiple times with ETH and has United and a reunion with his old manager as his next option (as has been reported by the UK press), then the interview won't be at all awkward. He'll simply address that he intended to spend his career at Barca, but understands the financial difficulties the club has faced, especially since Covid and has been in contact with ETH and insisted to him all along that if he would leave Barca then it would be to join him.
That MUTV interview is going to be awkward as hell
‘It has been a dream of mine to play for Manchester United. I grew up watching Ruud van Nistelrooy in red in the theatre of dreams.’
Except that's not the case, he needs Barca to genuinely believe he isn't gong to move for him to hold greater leverage.
This is it really. He personally hasn't said a word publicly.
Poor thing. Literally kicked to the curb by his dream club. What’s their motto again ?!?
“So Frenkie when did you first hear of Manchester United’s interest?”That MUTV interview is going to be awkward as hell
“Probably when Laporta began putting subliminal messages in my alphabetti spaghetti”.
I thought that I didn't care until I checked my posts count. @pocco I feel your pain.
I refuse to be called a transfer Muppet in this thread. These guys have gone to a whole new level of obsession.
We need the Inception team to plant the idea in his head.
I refuse to be called a transfer Muppet in this thread. These guys have gone to a whole new level of obsession.
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