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Frenkie de Jong | The last muppeting lap
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I don't think he was bang average but I do think that people overrate Carrick massively. Probably in light of the utter mess that has been our midfield over the past few years. He was a good players but few people raved about him when he was actually playing for us. Get better with the telling.
He was a good midfielder not a great one. We have just had to suffer through rubbish for far too long.
It shows someone's level and knowledge of football (lack of) if they don't rate Michael Carrick.
Instrumental to so many titles, beyond me how people can think he was just your average PL midfielder.
Extras... Happy ending? Hand job? GFE?
Are you on the wum? Carrick was “meh at best”? Absolute bollocks.
Show us some examples of Carrick passing the ball to the opposition by our box and costing us a goal. I’ll hold….
Melissa Reddy speaks like a bot.
Deadline this Friday, which I thought would make sense. Hopefully that is true, this has gone on too long and it's out of our hands anyway. We have a team to rebuild, we can't afford to sit and watch them argue over money.
Cheers mate
You'd need some fecking solid intel to start that shite.
Really? Isnt that the case in most transfer sagas?
He played more than anyone for Fergie from his arrival up until Fergie’s retirement. He was our main central midfielder in the clubs best ever period from 06-09. He was brilliant.
That's a wasp.
Footage from Murtough and Arnold negotiating in Barcelona
You don't remember the summer of "90-20-10"?
Carrick near enough played in midfield by himself in Fergies last year, he was monumental and for a good 3 year stretch would have been welcomed in any central midfield in the world aside from the one in Barcelona which is also probably the best midfield ever.
The deferred wages were not simply planned to be paid to him at a later time, it was included in a new 4 year contract and spread over the contract's period, so if he leaves and signs another contract with another club, he loses out on his deferred wages, hence why De Jong says he will stay and not accept wage reduction, Barcelona has the choice to pay De Jong the deferred wages now, so he can accept a transfer.
With all the content available online, would you be able to contextualise your view on Carrick with some evidence?
He's the most progressive passer from deep we had until Pogba put in a performance for us, and gave away numerous goals? That's laughable. Show me 3 where he was solely responsible.
My guess is that he has signed everything right now, and we just need to figure out how he gets his Barcelonamoneyz. So i would say, give or take a minute, this should be counted as the time he signed.
If we can get him on a plane to Australia with Martinez, Eriksen and Ronaldo, it would be great for preparation work.
Just Barca.
Read the whole post. My point still stands in addressing the nonsense you posted.
Because I watched every game he played near enough, I have seen much better midfielders for UTD and most other teams that don't receive anywhere near the plaudits that Carrick receives, it's just an opinion, you are part of the Carrick love in great for you, for me I was glad when he retired.
This makes sense. The last bit is also what I think happened. We have told Barca to get their shit sorted or we move on to other targets.
No one raved about him because he was surrounded by world class players in every position.
If prime carrick was in our team now he’d be one of our best players, if not the best and most influential.
He was basically a one man midfield at times once Fletcher was gone and we still won the league with him starting. Anyone who thinks Carrick is one of the most overrated midfielder needs their eyes and brains checked. He’s miles ahead of the likes of Pogba who’s supposedly world class.
He would walk into the starting lineup of every team in the league right now if he was in his prime.
it’s all true. have you not noticed the change in narrative over the past few days? the noises from the de jong camp have subdued as they had a change of heart after jim got so drunk that he threw up everywhere and started calling him fronkie.
On like a Donkey Kong?
Please stay on-topic. The topic here is Frenkie's ramp.
I watched him in real time thanks, you all love Carrick, great, for me one of the most over rated players ever to wear the short, each to their own opinion, I cannot try to convince you otherwise, trust me you will not convince me, like I say I watched the guy, live and formed my opinion, not from stats or you tube or what some pundit says.
Whilst we are on Brian McLair in midfield was also terrible (not as a striker though), anymore people I can annoy???
Spanish saying he doesn’t want to join
British saying he does
Quite obvious it’s regarding the wages is my muppet opinion.
British saying he does
Quite obvious it’s regarding the wages is my muppet opinion.
What do we think will happen next?
All the while De Jong feels he has Xavi's support and will play regularly under Xavi, I feel like he's still going to be minded to stay. I think the Barca board might have to lean on Xavi to tell De Jong he isn't part of his plans.
I think the deferred wages issue will be sorted. Barcelona could use some of the transfer fee to pay off some.
All the while De Jong feels he has Xavi's support and will play regularly under Xavi, I feel like he's still going to be minded to stay. I think the Barca board might have to lean on Xavi to tell De Jong he isn't part of his plans.
I think the deferred wages issue will be sorted. Barcelona could use some of the transfer fee to pay off some.
Funny that it’s only Barcelonas side saying De Jong doesn’t want to leave Barcelona but they’ve basically got no other option than to try and sell him thanks to La Liga’s restrictions.
They’re just trying to save face. Especially when United are effectively saying he’s already pretty much agreed terms with us.
They’re just trying to save face. Especially when United are effectively saying he’s already pretty much agreed terms with us.
No records on the Tevez saga? remember that was epic.
Seems like to me Barca want to get their business done before they announce a big sale.
They can pretend they are poor to selling clubs and try to wangle the best deals possible.
They can pretend they are poor to selling clubs and try to wangle the best deals possible.
I understand now, thank you very much.
Well of course Xavi likes him and doesn’t want to sell him. Managers rarely want their best players to leave, and I’m sure he’d get plenty of game time if he was to stay, the issue is though, Barcelona can’t afford to keep him and that’s not something that Xavi has a say in at all.
He’ll be in Manchester once Barcelona decide how they’re going to pay him that missing salary.
No way the Sniejder one was less than all them?
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