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Frenkie to United?


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Just double checked that it isn't April fools today with report on slabbhead

Instead of earning back the money from the Andreas Money and use it maybe to transfers, we earn back the glazers dividends
 
Sounds like a story we've released to the press to give maguire a bit of good publicity and change the narrative around him. There were a few PR stunts this summer while away with England to make him seem like a good guy too.
 
Are people that deluded/easily fooled that they fall for those Maguire links?
 
Is Frenkie most comparable to Xabi Alonso? Never really watched him play but my understanding is that he's positionally sound, dictates from deep but also capable of bursts forward.
 
Sounds like a deal is close. The tone of the stories have shifted to a more positive one
 
Good signing when finalised. Who’s next then because De Jong is replacing one of our 2 midfielders lost, who will be replacing Matic for example just to get us back to the level we were last season? Are we counting on Donny? I don’t see it working against most opposition, we will get overrun as usual without a top quality defensive minded midfielder providing cover to our defence.

I am however excited about the quick transfer business that will reportedly happen once FDJ is complete.
 
What is so far crucially missing from the equation so far is the agreement of personal terms which will reveal how much De Jong wants to come to Old Trafford, if at all. Really, we should be tying that side up first, IMHO, as other clubs do.
How do you know we haven't? There's no way they've been negotiating with Barca this entire time for De Jong to turn around and be like "no ta, I'm happy where I'm am. Get rekt scrub".
 
What is so far crucially missing from the equation so far is the agreement of personal terms which will reveal how much De Jong wants to come to Old Trafford, if at all. Really, we should be tying that side up first, IMHO, as other clubs do.
I would assume that has already been taken care of, it usually is.
 
My only concern with FDJ obsession is how will we play in case he gets injured…. It’s a serious question…..given how desperately ETH wants him and he is integral to his style of play….. who will replace him in case of a short term injury (hopefully no long term)….

Can Eriksen be the answer?
 
So says Lukhurst. At the start it was always said Barca would accept 80-85m euros.

my memory tells me they wanted 85m Euros (£73m). Only some crazy Spanish sites ever mentioned more. so if the £69m figure is correct, we've spent weeks pissing about to save £4m. Great work!


Based on the reports I saw, they wanted 80M-85M euros as guaranteed fee, they are getting 80M as fee + add-ons, which is still good work by the club.

In 2019, they paid Ajax 75M in guaranteed fees alone, rising to 86M, as 22 year old, so it stands to logic that FCB will demand huge fee for him, but due to their current financial issues, their hands are a bit tied and United took advantage of that, we get the 25 year old version of De Jong, at only 80M total.

In comparison, Aurélien Tchouameni who is 22 years old, cost Madrid 80M euros in guaranteed fees alone, up to 100M with add-ons, Rodri cost city around 73M euros as a 23 years old in 2019 when they paid the release clause, Moyes said it would take 150m to get Rice, you get where I am going with this.
 
My only concern with FDJ obsession is how will we play in case he gets injured…. It’s a serious question…..given how desperately ETH wants him and he is integral to his style of play….. who will replace him in case of a short term injury (hopefully no long term)….

Can Eriksen be the answer?
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My only concern with FDJ obsession is how will we play in case he gets injured…. It’s a serious question…..given how desperately ETH wants him and he is integral to his style of play….. who will replace him in case of a short term injury (hopefully no long term)….

Can Eriksen be the answer?
You cant. Same as madrid cant replace modric when injured over past seasons. Or why Barcelona couldnt replace xavi when injured. Eriksen plays higher up the pitch than frenkie. A understudy as madrid have for modric would be good.
 
Based on the reports I saw, they wanted 80M-85M euros as guaranteed fee, they are getting 80M as fee + add-ons, which is still good work by the club.

In 2019, they paid Ajax 75M in guaranteed fees alone, rising to 86M, as 22 year old, so it stands to logic that FCB will demand huge fee for him, but due to their current financial issues, their hands are a bit tied and United took advantage of that, we get the 25 year old version of De Jong, at only 80M total.

In comparison, Aurélien Tchouameni who is 22 years old, cost Madrid 80M euros in guaranteed fees alone, up to 100M with add-ons, Rodri cost city around 73M euros as a 23 years old in 2019 when they paid the release clause, Moyes said it would take 150m to get Rice, you get where I am going with this.

It was said from the start they would be happy to sell if they get close to recouping the fee they paid for De Jong. So if we are paying 80m euros guaranteed then I'd say that's about that.
Doesn't matter what Marid paid for Tchouameni since that happened after what Barca wanted was reported. We're only going by the reports but we're paying pretty much what Barca originally wanted in a guaranteed fee, where we seem to have negotiated is the structure (guessing how much is upfront and how much installments)
 
God knows how some fans can sit on this forum and complain about so much when we are inch close to signing De Jong as a 6th team in the league as well.

I know. Some people really have no patience and just look for anything to moan about.
 
"Ten Hag knows the Dutch international from their time together at Ajax. He understands the way De Jong plays and knows he would be perfect for the plans he has for his time at Old Trafford.
The alternatives, it has been established, simply do not fit the template or are not good enough.
Ten Hag wants to strengthen a range of positions - and he certainly wants an attacker. But central midfield is key and there is a feeling if De Jong is not part of the package, the new manager will be operating from a weaker position than he wanted."


From Simon Stone. Just for those still asking why we the club is obsessed with this transfer
 
Is Frenkie most comparable to Xabi Alonso? Never really watched him play but my understanding is that he's positionally sound, dictates from deep but also capable of bursts forward.

Nope, nothing like Xabi Alonso. He's more dynamic and less calculated than the Spaniard. He's not your typical regista tempo setter, but rather someone who'll bail the team out when under press with the bursts you mentioned. These are probably his strongest asset. He's much more comparable to Verratti or Kovacic.
 
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