I'm assuming the lack of formal bidding has something do with clauses in players contracts, I.e. triggering loyalty bonuses and the like.
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I'm assuming the lack of formal bidding has something do with clauses in players contracts, I.e. triggering loyalty bonuses and the like.
I just think £70m odd is a good price for a player of his calibre.. he’s world class and would completely change how we play.
When you compare that to how much other teams have paid for other players I think it’s a bargain.
The excitement about FDJ was killed by the negotiation delays and it’ll be a relief if it gets across the line.
I hope once this deal is done we should see a flurry of deals go through like Eriksen, a backup keeper, Antony to us and Silva, Lewa, Kessie to Barca.
I hope once this deal is done we should see a flurry of deals go through like Eriksen, a backup keeper, Antony to us and Silva, Lewa, Kessie to Barca.
I'm not sure why buy I assume it costs more to send actual formal bids. Lawyers, paperwork etc etc.
If you can just negotiate a bid by word and then send it once everybody is happy, it saves hassle and time eveywhere.
I think people play football manager and expect this is how it's done in real life where you just spam bids.
Ahh feck off 
Ahh feck off
Yep knew it. Its only our second bid. We don't normally agree before the third or fourth is in.
Ahh feck off
would be great if this is true as it's definitely gonna happen if these are the correct numbers
75M is not a crazy ask, considering we paid far more for Pogba, Lukaku and even Maguire. Heck, we paid 50M for Wan Bissaka alone.
I think we'll eventually sign him, but I totally agree with you. 70 million for Frenkie is a cheap price these days. He'll make wonders in our team.
Is he really worth the 75m Euros though? He even said he doesn't want to leave.
I notice Barcelona always refer to de Jong. They are trying to sell us Luuk de Jong…
He might be world class and I do think he has attributes we need badly in midfield. For a number of reasons though, he hasn't shown it consistently since his move to Barca. We're relying a lot on his former manager to get him back to his form 3 seasons ago.
All of this should be reflected in what United will pay.
That’s exactly what we’re trying to get away from, massively overpaying for players. I’m not saying Frenkie isn’t worth the money but it’s about trying to change our reputation in the transfer market and not be viewed as a club that just pays whatever the seller wants no matter how crazy the price is. Woodward really fecked us over during his time at the club and now we’re trying to change that bad rep, I suspect it will take a few windows though.
Ahh feck off
What was the first offer meant to be? 60m euros?
What the feck is said during lengthy negotiations for us to think to bid twice but for it to be rejected. Surely you just agree a fee during the negotiations and barter from there until agreement is reached.
I thought it was 60 then add ons
Well said. I know his skillset is what we need but I really can’t shake this feeling that for that kind of money he’s just going to look like a slightly above average player here keeping it tidy and playing the odd speculative killer ball forward. It’s all about the manager though. Get him his basic ingredients to compete and take it from there. Our forward line is also still in desperate need of ideas and energy.
The alternatives are twats like Rabiot and dross like McGinn
In other words there are no alternatives
In other words there are no alternatives
I haven’t seen you post one normal post. It’s always negative. Stop trolling people.
This guy isn't overly reliable, I didn't think?
What's wrong with it?
Our fans expect us to just accept Barca's demands and not negotiate, because saving millions of £ is apparently penny pinching?
Half moon. So according to the guys whom are into transfers - he’s hit and miss.
What's so funny about it? I don't get.
They do want him, its just their financial woes that's the issue.
Can we throw in Martial as a sweetener?
We should have gone for 72m + 15m in add ons or something like this, think they would have accepted it. They want more in the guaranteed fee.
We used to take the piss out of arsenal for this sort of carry on. They have been negotiating for weeks - to increase the bid by 5 million for it to be rejected again. Makes absolutely no sense.
All that for €5 million? Be surprised if it already wasn't rejected.
Will we be signing many other players if this go though? 85m is a steep price when we need a DM and a RW as a minimum to be a functional team. We have pretty much no one in those positions.
If the difference is 11m then nothing wrong with raising it 5m more
Raise it by 1 mil to 6mil and we got a deal
And I suspect you will be the first in the queue to accuse the team of incompetence and always paying over the odds.
How is this a sweetener? We'd be better to offer the kit man or boot cleaner!
Phil Jones should cover the difference.
I wont.
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