We need this transfer so much more than them, already got Kante, Kovacic & Jorginho
Frenkie de Jong | The last muppeting lap
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Chances of anyone we sign this week featuring this weekend are slim to none. Featuring against Liverpool are slim.
The only transfer news he is quick about is Chelsea, all other stuff he is re-reporting from another source.
Well, he knows the man and has seen his work upfront. I am sure he has a lot of credit in the bank.
I stopped looking how many posts I have long ago dude
Christensen has removed all references to Barcelona from his social media and even posted a pic of him in a chelsea shirt again. What the actual feck.
Barca are just bat shit crazy!
Chelsea might not need to sign a centre back after all! That’s a pretty shit way to treat a player though.
Barca are just bat shit crazy!
Chelsea might not need to sign a centre back after all! That’s a pretty shit way to treat a player though.
If only Chelsea signed Fofana alreadyChristensen has removed all references to Barcelona from his social media and even posted a pic of him in a chelsea shirt again. What the actual feck.
Barca are just bat shit crazy!
Chelsea might not need to sign a centre back after all! That’s a pretty shit way to treat a player though.
They’d be stacked with options. I actually think Chelsea won’t mind having him back.
He left on a free so Chelsea didn’t have a say. But he’d be like a new signing!
I commented on the FFP/accounting stuff on here a few days ago. Not bothered to add up the calculations again so here ya go:
Well sure it adds up to £400M if you keep pulling the numbers out of your arse.
But even so, it has to be stated that clubs generally don’t give a feck about the transfer fee spending during a single window but rather the long term total costs (amortisation+salary) of the deals.
Compared to last season Chelsea have already made very significant savings in these costs even without any notable sales so far. Getting all of Saul Niguez, Danny Drinkwater (yes he was still at the club), Antonio Rüdiger and Andreas Christensen off the books permanently means a saving of around £50M a year on the club’s books. Add to that Lukaku's salary being paid by Inter for the loan period and the £8M loan fee it's another £25M saved compared to last season. Werner is going back to Leipzig for just enough of a fee to cover his remaining amortisation value and his big salary will be gone so add another £20-25M a year in yearly savings on the books. Alonso will be another goner.
Funny how all these figures start adding up so that signing a few new players all of a sudden isn't going to be such a huge deal as it may seem at first glance. Remember that all these new signings will be amortised on the books for the contract duration as well so if anything, with all the savings mentioned above and the additions of Sterling, Koulibaly, Cucurella, Chukwuemeka, Slonina I'm pretty sure the club's total wages+amortisation costs have actually gone down from last year, although Lukaku is still an ongoing issue that may bite us again next year but for now he's more or less out of the calculations save from the difference in transfer fee amortisation - loan fee.
Even without big sales this year, the players that have been released and loaned out all add up for some big total savings on the books. And btw what you said about Chelsea still covering most of Lukaku's wages is not right. He took a big pay cut to re-join Inter because that's how desperate he was to go back to where he was 'loved'.
So far the club have spent £160M on transfers, counting only the initial fees and not including bonuses. Aside from Sterling and Koulibaly all the others (Cucurella, Chukwuemeka and Slonina) have signed six year contracts so the yearly amortisation cost for all these deals added together is only £31M which is not a lot more than the total yearly amortisation costs for the players who have already left. The outgoing players also released some serious space in the wage budget so wages for the new players is not a problem either.
Now if the club were to sign a few more high profile players (Fofana, Frenkie and maybe a forward) before the window shuts, the costs would go up by a lot more but then again there will be more players leaving as well. Even if the deals for outgoing players don't seem all that great at first sight, just getting their amortisation costs and salaries off the budget can have a huge impact like for example the Lukaku loan and Werner sale.
Having a big summer doesn't automatically mean bad things for FFP purposes, as long as there are equal cuts to previous costs (outgoing players) or increases in revenues. So far Chelsea have both made up space in the budget with departures as well as some slight increases in commercial income (new sleeve sponsor). It also looks like COVID is a thing of the past and things like match day revenue etc. can be expected to return to pre-COVID levels or higher.
And as far as FFP is concerned, I'm pretty sure there's still some amendments in place because of covid (remember it's looked at with a 3 year rolling period) so I don't think any club will have any problems with FFP as we've gotten to know it. The new FFP rules will be coming in a few years but there will be a phasing in period of a few years before they're fully in place so lots of time for Chelsea and other clubs to make necessary adjustments before then.
Guess that's more funds available for FdJ thenChristensen has removed all references to Barcelona from his social media and even posted a pic of him in a chelsea shirt again. What the actual feck.
Barca are just bat shit crazy!
Chelsea might not need to sign a centre back after all! That’s a pretty shit way to treat a player though.
This one is going down to the wire mate.
Only the fact they have missed out on a few targets this summer albeit to Barca is my only slither of hope, well and the silence of Utd's main journos I spose.
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Chelsea fans haven't yet earned the right to call him Frenkie just yet. There's another 10 weeks of penance to do before this will be allowed, especially if he signs for Chelsea
Yep, not necessarily good news for us in relation to signing FDJ.Guess that's more funds available for FdJ then
What is interesting is Chelsea are reported to be bidding even less than us for the transfer fee. That would suggest that Barca don’t believe themselves that FDJ will accept a move to Utd. Because if they did, it wouldn’t make sense accepting a lower bid from another club. All very bizarre.
That's a good point, but could also be Chelsea expecting Barca growing more desperate since we're way later in the window
I'd love a good ol' gazumping today
Exactly, and where do you think he got that info from? Chelsea thought it was a done deal.
Just the small detail of actually signing the playerOnly formalities...
Indeed. FdJ to Chelsea looks quite likely and Chelsea are certainly telling anyone and everyone that they are confident about the deal, but it is not the first (or even the second) time this summer they have been confident about a deal that didn't come to fruition.
It would appear that the reports suggesting that Boehly has a big mouth and he likes to run it, are accurate.
Well feck!
Just like he thinks FDJ is done deal?
Why is it bad for us and FDJ about Christensen?
That would me there is no decision this week.
People jump on these, but it is also been said he has never changed any of his info to Barca yet.
Chelsea take him back, don't need to spend big on Fofana and use the funds on De Jong
Christensen has removed all references to Barcelona from his social media and even posted a pic of him in a chelsea shirt again. What the actual feck.
Barca are just bat shit crazy!
Chelsea might not need to sign a centre back after all! That’s a pretty shit way to treat a player though.
Do we know if he actually change his pic to one in a Barca shirt in the first place?
Chelsea doesn’t know anything
If Chelsea don’t spend on Fofana they have the money to spend on FDJ. They get a CB for “free”.
It's hot hot hot.
They was apparently going for FDJ regardless
Nobody knows anything until the contracts are signed.
What makes me think it’s heading to Chelsea is the fact I’ve never seen a transfer before where another team comes in with a lower bid and appear to be the favourites to sign him. I feel there must be some acknowledgement in Barca that a deal to Utd isn’t happening so they need to accept a “similar” fee from a club where it’s more likely to happen.
Normally second clubs come in with a bid to gazump the first team, not bid lower than them.
They also have Conor Gallagher, who certainly looked like he could have a bright future last season. I'd take him at United! Chelsea have shown with the likes of Mason Mount and Reece James that if you're good enough, you can win a place in the first team, regardless have how wealthy the club is and how widely they can operate in the transfer market. I'm surprised they aren't looking to create the room for Gallagher to develop and show what he can do, and maybe Billy Gilmour too, although last season wasn't too great for him.
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