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Frenkie de Jong | The last muppeting lap
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Maybe it's a sign though?
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Has he ordered one of them too?
Mikky vetoed it.
You think the likes of Jason Burt would fall for pressure tactics?
Maybe. I hope you're right.
If FDJ gets similar offers from United and Chelsea you would expect him to choose Chelsea as they are a more settled club, far more likely to win trophies and are in the Champions league. United are all over the place at the moment and it looks like this season is going to be tough.
Yes. Yes I do.
Frenkie can sit in the bench until November and he’ll still start at the WC. He’s their best midfielder (player) by some distance.
Typical.
Absolutely. Well known for shitting himself under pressure is Burt
I will be so fecking relieved when we get 100% clarity on this cnut. Never thought he’d come and not particularly bothered either. Hope he stays at Barcelona but if he goes to Chelsea that just makes the whole situation even more embarrassing for EtH and the club. I said from day one, he only comes here if he has to leave Barcelona and we are the only option he has besides retiring. Nothing negative, just being a realist.
The window has been poor and now we have 3 weeks left to panic buy and try to get the team looking like it won’t shit the bed even worse than last season.
The window has been poor and now we have 3 weeks left to panic buy and try to get the team looking like it won’t shit the bed even worse than last season.
An excellent point. The match against Brighton was an opportunity to showcase the potential for United to reach the next step, if only one or two missing pieces were added to the puzzle. But instead we botched the opportunity to beat a very beatable opponent and Frenkie would be well within his rights to want to stay as far away from Old Trafford as possible.
Still, I'm confident we'll get Frenkie. There is no chance this saga would have gone on this long with ETH having been given an assurance by Frenkie that he would be open to the move once he reached resolution on the contractual issues we're all aware of.
I really wish someone asks LvG that question.
I hope you'reright. I can't buy it though
Nothing wrong with me at all. You don’t know what the player wants, there’s no evidence at all that he wants to go to Chelsea other than sources that haven’t been verifiable. But there are some facts that we can base on make some measured conclusions e.g, are the player is a Dutch player, playing for Barcelona having previously worked with Utd’s current manager. There’s a deal in place awaiting player’s approval. His agent has already been in Manchester. These are all hard facts and they’re all in Utd’s favourI'm not disputing that fact? What is wrong with you
My point is about player preference. We can agree a deal 100 times with Barcelona - that's not the hurdle mate.
There are potentially legit reasons why all that could be happening that are in our and FDJ's favour. There is no way you can fall one side of the fence or the other on this at the moment without speculating and reading between the lines somewhere.
I hope you'reright. I can't buy it though
Sure you can. Let yourself believe.
Someone find out if Mick Lynch is available. Firstly to go and negotiate and secondly to play DM.
Besides what the others have already mentioned, the biggest thing is that de Jong and his camp both haven't told Chelsea that he wants to join them. The moment Chelsea contacted de Jong and his camp, they were told that the player prefers to stay at Barcelona. Everything coming from the reliable sources is either based on other reports ("it has been reported", "as reported", "according to reports", etc.) or based on conjecture ("Chelsea believe", "it is believed", "it is likely", "looking likely", etc.). The moment a reliable Chelsea/United reports something coming from their sources about de Jong wanting to join Chelsea, that's the moment when we can forget about him joining United.
None of those are panic buy. The only one which was by the deadline is ighalo because we worked the whole window to address the squad depth issue and the player with that profile (offer alternative and was happy as backup and was available) was difficult to find and materialize.
I didn’t disagree about “transfer IQ” because it by itself is a nonsense term. But I think I know what you mean. The problem is that this summer we overhaul the whole football structure and you use the past (correct or incorrect, reasonable or unreasonable) to assert the new people and structure in charge same as before and are stupid as before. Even for the previous structure and people, it is just stupid to label them stupid or not. The decisions are always made by reasons, wise or not, nothing to do they are stupid or not.
The window closes by the end of August. I think it better to waiting until then to freak out and do meltdowns. It’s premature to do it now, Aug 9.
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Barcelona yet to register new signings
https://www.bbc.com/sport/football/62478210
Season starts on Saturday folks, running out of time!
https://www.bbc.com/sport/football/62478210
Season starts on Saturday folks, running out of time!
Do we? I thought it was over. When two tribes go to war…
They’ll be fine… so we keep being told
They'll activate another lever, and reduce some salaries and will be fine. Sell or loan a few players.
They really might keep Frenkie I am thinking, they really like him but would prefer to sell. At the same time they refuse to give in. Well they do, but they don't care about the future.
Not to mention the implication that a player played the league under an illegal contract (if we buy the Laporta PR machine line). Other teams might appeal for Barcelona to lose their Champions League spot.
They can’t just keep taking out loans
Of course they can! They are delaying the registration till the last moment just for the shit and giggles.
That's exactly what they are doing.
The Barca press are completely accountable if things go completely tits up at that club. Zero scrutiny whatsoever.
Not for or due to this. You think those players are panic buy. I guess the reason you think so is that you are not well informed on why, how, and what happened for those transfers.Jesus, and you called me foolish
Cavani was a panic buy, Ighalo was a panic buy, the recent Arnautovic pursuit is panic.
None of these were planned targets. No one actually believes this to be the case, it was a scurry to find bodies who can do a job.
Eventually they run out of things to sell off
I mean in a sustainable sense though.. it’s absolutely ludicrous
No one was saying we're all over the place a week ago, at least not to the extent we're seeing right now. If Bruno scored early on against Brighton, the game would've been different. If rashford took his chances and scored two, the narrative would've been: Rashford is back. The difference between success and failure is so fine at the top level, and supporters are so fickle. This generation is so boom or bust, it's scary.
We have issues and problems for the manager to solve, but you've got to give him the time to figure out what he needs to do.
Chelsea obviously can offer things that we can't. But they're not exactly a beacon of stability right now either. They could easily drop out of the top four this year.
We have issues and problems for the manager to solve, but you've got to give him the time to figure out what he needs to do.
Chelsea obviously can offer things that we can't. But they're not exactly a beacon of stability right now either. They could easily drop out of the top four this year.
Think they have some way to go yet, they haven't sold 100% yet of most assets and if the investment banks are stupid enough, they will sell the assets for the next 25 - 40 years etc.
But I think they are nearly there, just need a bit more money.
Yep..
I did read somewhere that Real sold 100% of their tv-rights just over 10 years ago and it was a great succes in hindsight, can someone echo that?
Pique and Busquets taking pay cuts to make it happen
Apparently Ter Stegan has also agreed
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