sewey89
Incorrectly predicted the de Jong transfer 2022
His MO
Indeed. He was decent last summer I seem to believe but he's been way off it this year
His MO
I am struggling to see why he would want to stay there to be honest. None of it quite adds up.. if he did love the club as everyone says he does and it’s his dream club why would he not be willing to drop his wages like Pique and Busquets seem to be doing. I do think him and his agent are playing a game of trying to get both a move and his wages owed to him.I still think we're the most likely destination, but there's also a good chance he stays at Barca (god knows why he'd want that after how they've acted).
I don't believe the Chelsea rumours at all. Their net spend is already approx £160m - Fofana will be another £80m apparanetly and they still need a number 9 before getting a midfielder. If they get De Jong thats somewhere in the region of £300m net spend. Barcalona also want their money up front, no spreading payments.
My best freind is a Chelsea season ticket holder, and he doesn't understand their interest in De Jong
Barca definitely want him gone.. but playing the ‘illegal contract’ card seems to have complicated it even further.. whether that works in favour of him leaving or not I don’t know. It does need to get a move on though as Barca have their first league game Saturday and still can’t register new signings.. hopefully we get some progress this week!I think he'll leave, yes. Barca desperately want him gone, because they need the money. All public utterances to the contrary are pure drivel. The process of forcing him out has begun and he can expect many more threats of legal action and games on the bench / at CB until he leaves.
The question is, when he does leave, where does he go? Chelsea appear to have the upper hand there (UCL football and London reportedly favoured by De Jong over Europa League football and Manchester) and I think they'll get him eventually.
Just to get another perspective.
Werner joint RB Leipzig and will make 10m Euro a year. That's 6m Euro less than he got at Chelsea. He still had 3 years of contract, so he waived 18m Euro to join Leipzig.
If FdJ was really serious, the 17m Euro shouldn't hold up the deal that long.
If you're simplifying it like that, I'd say it's more:
United: Is FDJ for sale?
Agent: Actually there are a load of problems at Barca and we are considering our options so yes, possibly.
United: Oh? Well in the event he does leave, we just signed up EtH and he wants to build the team around Frenkie.
Agent: Sounds interesting... hold on... * covers the reciever with his hand and shouts at someone in Dutch * ... * muffled response from another room * ... Frenkie says that sounds like a great idea. If he has to leave Barca he would love to come to United. For the right price of course.
United: Of course. Rest assured we value Frenkie very highly. We can talk numbers soon but I don't think there will be a problem. Tell us more about these problems at Barca...
Agent: Well, you are not going to believe this shit...
The next day...
United: Oh, err, hola, is that Barca?
Barca: Maybe... who is this?
United: It's United. We, err, we just wondered if you had any good players for sale? Someone like, ohhhhh I dunno * snigger * FDJ maybe?
Barca: Okay, thank god... we didnt recognise the number and thought you might be someone else. FDJ you say? We like Frenkie but maybe at the right price.
United: Ok, that makes sense.
Negotiate. Price agreed.
Barca: You want Depay too?
United: No, thanks.
Barca: How about Braithwaite? We give you great deal on Braithwaite if you take him too.
United: No.
Barca: 49% stake in Barcelona's Wedding and Bar Mitzvah Holdings for the next 40 years?
United: ...
Dead on. How could a €85m transfer of a player with deferred wages in an incredibly complex contract at a club that wants him gone so they can register their shiny new toys cause they’re saddled with a mountain of debt be complicated at all.
Can imagine the muppets will be joining in but slightly changing the lyrics form Rangers to Man Utd with the following after reading that tweet:
Rabiot isn’t a like for like player to FDJ. But it’s such a Utd thing to make him the alternative.It's just that at no other club would FDJ's alternative be Rabiot, and Sancho's Pellistri and Amad. The dip in quality is so severe that you can't help but think they are unrelated signings.
Little stupid that mate. Romero is a GK. Rabiot and FDJ both midfielders. Thought I’d help you out.
We are being linked with a bid for SMS as well as rabiot. If we are genuinely going for SMS then it rules out any FDJ signing.Thanks mate, appreciate your help on this, clearly I was being sensationalist. Point is our alternative to a deep lying playmaker who does his best work at no6 role is to get a b2b player who has played on the wings of late and prefers to carry the ball and does most of his work between 8/10 (What I believe Scott & Fred prefer) is not an alternative.
The only thing I’m certain of in this whole saga is that Utd will not come out and brief they are no longer trying to sign FDJ. They are already getting some serious heat from fans, they’ll start a riot if they do that.
If he comes or not, they’ll continue to brief we’re still after him or just stay quiet.
We're caught in a trap
I can't walk out
Because I love you too much, frenkie
Why can't you see
What you're doing to me
When they dont believe a word you say?
We can't go on together
With suspicious minds (suspicious minds)
And we can't build our dreams
On suspicious minds
So if an old friend I know (Chelsea)
Stops by to say hello
Would I still see suspicion in your eyes?
Here we go again
Asking where I've been
You can't see the tears are real, I'm crying
(Yes I'm crying)
We can't go on together
With suspicious minds (suspicious minds)
And we can't build our dreams
On suspicious minds
We're caught in a trap
I can't walk out
Because I love you too much, frenkie
Why can't you see
What you're doing to me
When they dont believe a word you say?
We can't go on together
With suspicious minds (suspicious minds)
And we can't build our dreams
On suspicious minds
So if an old friend I know (Chelsea)
Stops by to say hello
Would I still see suspicion in your eyes?
Here we go again
Asking where I've been
You can't see the tears are real, I'm crying
(Yes I'm crying)
We can't go on together
With suspicious minds (suspicious minds)
And we can't build our dreams
On suspicious minds
That’s not what the plan was for 2019 window though.
We're caught in a trap
I can't walk out
Because I love you too much, frenkie
Why can't you see
What you're doing to me
When they dont believe a word you say?
We can't go on together
With suspicious minds (suspicious minds)
And we can't build our dreams
On suspicious minds
So if an old friend I know (Chelsea)
Stops by to say hello
Would I still see suspicion in your eyes?
Here we go again
Asking where I've been
You can't see the tears are real, I'm crying
(Yes I'm crying)
We can't go on together
With suspicious minds (suspicious minds)
And we can't build our dreams
On suspicious minds
That’s not what the plan was for 2019 window though.
"Growing realisation that Frenkie De Jong just does not want to join, Barca want De Jong to sign a new deal on reduced terms, expected his future will be sorted this week"
We got Glazered, this was a ploy wasn't it, so they didn't have to spend any money in 12 weeks.
Genuinely can't come up with any other reasoning i just can't its too much incompetence we all knew this in June. It would also explain the panicking after the game as well, they didn't think the squad was this bad which is its own issue.
Think your tinfoil hat really suits you. Wake up, sheeple!"Growing realisation that Frenkie De Jong just does not want to join, Barca want De Jong to sign a new deal on reduced terms, expected his future will be sorted this week"
We got Glazered, this was a ploy wasn't it, so they didn't have to spend any money in 12 weeks.
Genuinely can't come up with any other reasoning i just can't its too much incompetence we all knew this in June. It would also explain the panicking after the game as well, they didn't think the squad was this bad.
They were never going to be brought into the team like Sancho would have. But it certainly felt like “these are better than nothing signings” to appease the manager and fans.But they weren't alternatives to Sancho.
Love the optimism, worry about the delusion.Why do you refuse to see that FDJ is just playing his hand as it was dealt. He is maintaining he wants to stay to get his money. There should be no doubt he will leave Barca before September.
We know the transfer is full of complications.Why do you refuse to see that FDJ is just playing his hand as it was dealt. He is maintaining he wants to stay to get his money. There should be no doubt he will leave Barca before September.
BravoIf you're simplifying it like that, I'd say it's more:
United: Is FDJ for sale?
Agent: Actually there are a load of problems at Barca and we are considering our options so yes, possibly.
United: Oh? Well in the event he does leave, we just signed up EtH and he wants to build the team around Frenkie.
Agent: Sounds interesting... hold on... * covers the reciever with his hand and shouts at someone in Dutch * ... * muffled response from another room * ... Frenkie says that sounds like a great idea. If he has to leave Barca he would love to come to United. For the right price of course.
United: Of course. Rest assured we value Frenkie very highly. We can talk numbers soon but I don't think there will be a problem. Tell us more about these problems at Barca...
Agent: Well, you are not going to believe this shit...
The next day...
United: Oh, err, hola, is that Barca?
Barca: Maybe... who is this?
United: It's United. We, err, we just wondered if you had any good players for sale? Someone like, ohhhhh I dunno * snigger * FDJ maybe?
Barca: Okay, thank god... we didnt recognise the number and thought you might be someone else. FDJ you say? We like Frenkie but maybe at the right price.
United: Ok, that makes sense.
Negotiate. Price agreed.
Barca: You want Depay too?
United: No, thanks.
Barca: How about Braithwaite? We give you great deal on Braithwaite if you take him too.
United: No.
Barca: 49% stake in Barcelona's Wedding and Bar Mitzvah Holdings for the next 40 years?
United: ...
Uh...WE BACK IN THE GAME!!!
17m is peanuts for the real big clubs these days (not Barsa for obvious reasons). I'm sure if he said to United that he wants to come here we could maybe give it to him as a signing bonus of sorts.Just to get another perspective.
Werner joint RB Leipzig and will make 10m Euro a year. That's 6m Euro less than he got at Chelsea. He still had 3 years of contract, so he waived 18m Euro to join Leipzig.
If FdJ was really serious, the 17m Euro shouldn't hold up the deal that long.
Uh...
If you're simplifying it like that, I'd say it's more:
United: Is FDJ for sale?
Agent: Actually there are a load of problems at Barca and we are considering our options so yes, possibly.
United: Oh? Well in the event he does leave, we just signed up EtH and he wants to build the team around Frenkie.
Agent: Sounds interesting... hold on... * covers the reciever with his hand and shouts at someone in Dutch * ... * muffled response from another room * ... Frenkie says that sounds like a great idea. If he has to leave Barca he would love to come to United. For the right price of course.
United: Of course. Rest assured we value Frenkie very highly. We can talk numbers soon but I don't think there will be a problem. Tell us more about these problems at Barca...
Agent: Well, you are not going to believe this shit...
The next day...
United: Oh, err, hola, is that Barca?
Barca: Maybe... who is this?
United: It's United. We, err, we just wondered if you had any good players for sale? Someone like, ohhhhh I dunno * snigger * FDJ maybe?
Barca: Okay, thank god... we didnt recognise the number and thought you might be someone else. FDJ you say? We like Frenkie but maybe at the right price.
United: Ok, that makes sense.
Negotiate. Price agreed.
Barca: You want Depay too?
United: No, thanks.
Barca: How about Braithwaite? We give you great deal on Braithwaite if you take him too.
United: No.
Barca: 49% stake in Barcelona's Wedding and Bar Mitzvah Holdings for the next 40 years?
United: ...
Oh I’ve missed this guy.
Oh I’ve missed this guy.