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Frenkie de Jong | The last muppeting lap
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Same here. If he’s a backup then fine but I would have more confidence of this if Frenkie had already signed.
Which is exactly the reason why United would do something like that.
Manchester United, one of the footballing superpowers with one of the greatest histories...
Under the Glazers WOULD do that yes.
Where have you made this up from now? Absolutely nothing restricting a sign on fee based on the transfer fee. Otherwise free agents get zero sign on fee right?
At this point I'm just focusing on this thread more than the others not because I think we'll get him, but because of all the drama. I feel like I'm watching a soap.
This, I'd actually be kind of excited to see then plan of those 2 as a duo.
FDJ isn't coming, the club have started to realise that. There was always a chance until Chelsea upped their interest.
He'll stay at Barcelona or join Chelsea as the new owner's statement signing.
Pretty sure if we were cooling interest we'd have our own journos reporting it and not one of Chelseas. The only time we'd back out is when it's totally obvious that we won't get him
Someone get a bugler on the phone.
Going for Rabiot *at all* is very stupid. We are certified in stupidity so I wouldn't put it past us.
Nonsense. I refuse to accept this. Frenkie sign United. Go Red Devils and Frenkie. Brain beginning Muppet Reset.
Look, we’ll all be laughing at this thread at the end of the transfer window, and wondering why we were panicking so much, just in time to see FDJ play his first game for United...
The hope that’s keeping me going on this saga is that there’s no way even Manchester United would have stayed in for Frenkie this long unless management had been told in confidence that Frenkie was open to the move but wanted to get the deferred wages sorted out first.
Yeah, wouldn’t mind that.
In short, it's in the bag
I don't believe we're cooling our interest. I just believe that FDJ has no interest and we might be starting to realise that
I doubt it, it would have happened weeks ago.
Till the bitter end.
I agree. I could live with Rabiot if we get Frenkie. If he's an alternative to him we are fecked.
There's more chance of you actually being a pigeon.
Its not like we not calling him you know, the cun* had is all blocked.
That's my worry. If we were going for another CM anyway why not earlier? Or did EtH first have to see the shitshow our CM is in a competitive PL game?
When the Sesko links came in, reports came that we are no longer in for Antony. When the Arnautovic links came in reports came Sesko signed with Leipzig. We've got the Rabiot links now. Only a matter of time.....
When it comes to United, if it seems stupid, it's probably true.
What makes you think that they are starting to realise that after three months? So either FDJ took us for a ride or we were complety stupid?
Are you suggesting this has not happened before?
Its actually quite clear, I have said this for weeks that We are completely silly for thinking this is on. Surprise surprise, we wont get him.
So they’re asking to him to annul his contract, then sign a new one after?
What’s to stop him telling them to get fecked and sign for someone one a free in between those steps?
What’s to stop him telling them to get fecked and sign for someone one a free in between those steps?
Rabiot has been on the transfer list all summer. If we wanted him in addition to FDJ, we could have signed him for our pre-season tour. I think if we sign Rabiot, we won't have fully given up on FDJ, but seems there is a realisation we better get somebody in as our chances of getting FDJ are slimming.
I am not a lawyer licensed to practice law in Spain, but assuming the new Barca board is saying there are some elements in the contracts (through misrepresentation, fraud, etc.) which would render the contract void because of illegality. This is a pretty common legal basis to do so, in a lot of different jurisdictions. The new board will basically sue the old board and get the court to declare this illegality. This means that FDJ may be a “victim” too. Will have to see what the filing actually says. Putting aside all of the legal technicalities, it’s still an a-hole move by the club. It just shows they are willing to throw a player who they say is important under the bus if it suits them. I can’t really buy the notion that FDJ loves the club so much that despite this he would still want to stay.
If we wanted Rabiot, he was available all summer. This very much looks like an alternative now that most other available midfielders have been picked up while we were begging foe FDJ to pick us.
Not really. It would be on par for the quality of our scouting and negotiation team.
I have seen this a few times now but where are people getting this from?
I haven't seen a rule or law that specifically forbids this. Even Ornstein in his latest tweet said Chelsea are willing to pay Frenkie's deferred wages. Doubt he would write that openly like that if it was illegal. Or did he just tell the world Chelsea are willing to break the law to sign him?
But for arguments sake even if you weren't allowed to directly pay his deferred wages, what is stopping another club paying him 450k a week instead of 350k and spread it over the length of his contract? Or give him as a one off signing bonus? How would the authorities proof this extra money was indeed for the deferred wages?
I am really interested to know how it could be enforced
The fact you are getting annoyed at Barcelona selling their own assets off they created is a bit naive.
Especially when you have Man City openly cheating in the same division as us doing far worse things than Barcelona have ever done.
Man City, Chelsea, Newcastle and PSG are the problems in this sport right now. Barcelona actually deserve their money as it’s actually their assets.
Last time I checked they’d been the most dominant club on the planet for basically the past 20 years.
This would be unacceptable
That and the fact he HAS to leave Barca. I know he technically can stay but I don’t see that being allowed because of how it would screw Barca. They will force him out and we are the only team to have a bid accepted so far. He’s got to come to us, right?!
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A lot of the remaining hope for this transfer seems to boil down to basically "Surely we can't be that incompetent that we would still be pursuing this when it seems to be dead" and honestly that really comes down to putting a lot of faith in this club
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