And when you do sign him, I don't wanna hear any "he chose us over Chelsea" horseshit from anyone!
Frenkie de Jong | The last muppeting lap
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I love it when you talk dirty to me bebe.
Quite possible.
But then why would British reporters be getting their information from Barca?
They'll have their sources within the clubs, or it'll be a "know people who know people" kinda thing
If we’re on the verge of missing out the club should sign the alternative immediately. That’s how we should let “the world” know we’ve walked away. Not PR briefs. Actually sign some players that we need in the priority areas identified.
If risking wasting an entire summer fixated on one target who is liable to change their mind at a moments notice when our midfield as it is is nowhere near the strength of mid table teams, let alone challenging near the top of the table, isn't incompetence, what would you call it?
I’ve seen some poorly handled transfers but if this ends up with him going to Chelsea 
Just unthinkably poor stuff from us.
Still believe we’ll sign him, but some positive news in our direction certainly would be nice right about now..
Just unthinkably poor stuff from us.Still believe we’ll sign him, but some positive news in our direction certainly would be nice right about now..
I think a lot of people are resigned to the possibility, while a voluble minority will no doubt enter the stratosphere, fueled by hysterical indignation.
Time wasted will be the real talking point, if he ends up at The Bridge, and the manager may very well be the one left looking like the de facto villain.
United will 100% pay up to avoid the colossal embarrassment.
Lord have mercy on the cafe if he does go there.
This is how I feel. The club will know exactly how it’ll look if we mess this up after an entire summer of chasing.
Ornstein, Law and Johnson have reported Chelsea are in for him and think he would choose Chelsea over United.
After the Lewandowski, Dembele, Rapinha and Kounde sagas, you really think they would actively embarrass themselves again?
He is a similar profile to Jorginho except better and better at progressing the ball too. I'd expect a Jorginho move to Serie A this summer.
I do think people are going to be shocked at how middle of the road he is when he comes to England. He seems one of those players that needs to have the midfield / play built around him and I’m all burnt out from that nonsense with Pogba.
This saga has built him up to stupid levels a when his actual performances haven’t warranted it
This saga has built him up to stupid levels a when his actual performances haven’t warranted it
It would be incompetence of the highest order, serious questions would need to be asked of the manager. I think the board would be absolutely furious with him.
I’d immediately take transfer responsibility off him if true.
This is the only thing that gives me slight hope that the Chelsea "interest" is a ruse. Notice its now growing in intensity when the news has emerged that Barcelona can't register any of their new signings
So, to the plan B or C now?
If he's ready to depart Barcelona a week or so after Chelsea's interest became concrete, while having kept Utd hanging for the best part of a couple of months, then you know where he's headed. It's not 50/50 anymore.
He is going to Chelsea, it is known for a week now.
And of that, only Ornstein wrote a full article on the matter, and a lot of it was pure opinion too. The rest of them just include the interest as a one liner in a totally unrelated article, as if they're just mentioning it in case it turns out to be true.
I know nothing of journalism, but if it was from Chelsea and a fact that it was going to be done, they'd likely do a full story on it, as it's a big story in it's own right.
Could happen
Ten Hag has already said if we don’t get him then we make our own. I’ve been against this for a long time but why wouldn’t United wait and see if this didn’t interfere with other transfers?
Muppets getting overly invested isn’t really United fault
I'd say it isn't a great situation, but how do you know a player is "liable" to change his mind? As asked previously, are the club meant to be psychic?
They identified a prime target and went for it, I can't fault them for trying that. I would wonder why they didn't set an earlier deadline on getting it done, but if they feel De Jong is a unique opportunity then I can see why they would pursue it to the end.
Why wouldnt they? Online "journalism" relating to transfers is almost always a translated rumour repeated and retweeted until everyone believes it.
Of course it is not. There were always noises that he doesn't want to come here, wants CL football and would rather stay. Chelsea is a good compromise for him.
The muppets were saying we would not be chasing him if he was not interested and we would first see that before bidding. But with United, nothing amazes me.
Chelsea’s spending is ridiculous. How are clubs meant to compete with this mindless money throwing?
So what. They cover Chelsea and have said similar things about 100s of players. It's monkeys typing Shakespeare.
Blind muppet faith aside, it doesn't exactly look great. If he really chose Chelsea, you'd expect to hear reports about United focusing on other targets/positions soon
It doesn't matter what Barca brief - they still owe him £17m or whatever. If he signs for Chelsea then surely it's very possible that Chelsea have agreed to cough this up in addition to the transfer fee. Look at how much they appear to be overpaying for Cucceralla. I want United to sign him - but we defo shouldn't be paying Barca's debts.
Ornstein, Law, Johnson, Hirst, Romero and Mitten.
There's a point at which you have to realise that Chelsea are actually after him. They're certainly trying to temper down hype after the embarrassments earlier this summer.
To walk away early and focus on more realistic targets once we realized it’s not going to be straightforward deal? How does that sound? Our season starts tomorrow and we haven’t strengthened in the area where we desperately needed reinforcements that’s the bottom line.
This doesn't make sense though, does it? Chelsea's interest is genuine as it has been reported by reliable British journalists. Unless Barcelona went to Chelsea and said: "Hey, I know we messed up your transfer window, but can you please feign interest in De Jong just so we can rip United off, but still give them a good player?".
Our chances of signing him greatly dimished once Chelsea joined in. That's the long and short of it.
Theyre not meant to. That's the point of spending loads.
Probably this, people are just negative and cynical about anything related to United (understandably after years of frustration and shoddy management).
Thats what i think too. There is no way United will sit by whilst he signs for Chelsea and say nothing at all. They'd want it know that it was THEIR choice to walk away and he didn't reject us.
We are like old sarah who couldn't do much other than beg her husband to go feck their hot slave-girl.
Chelsea have new owners that are looking to spend big this summer. They are going for it. Them spending 80m on Fofana and another 70m on De Jong is absolutely possible. May not happen every summer, but they have been desperate this summer for statement signings.
ETH, Murtough and Arnold will have serious questions to answer if he ends up at Chelsea.
I think it's unthinkable we have chased him this long without knowing what his desires are.
I think it's unthinkable we have chased him this long without knowing what his desires are.
Ornstein? Romero?
Ornstein has tremendous credibility within the game and Romero is incredibly close to the Barca hierarchy.
Ornstein has zero reason to lie or look for RTs.
I just think you're in denial because you don't want to be hurt like earlier this summer.
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