I still don’t get it, our bid has been accepted, we’re good to go. We’ve done our part. There’s not much else we can do now.
It’s the deferred wages holding up the deal. Plain and simple
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It’s the deferred wages holding up the deal. Plain and simple
Let’s not make things up
What use is an accepted bid if it doesn't allow the transfer to complete?
I’d rather him go Chelsea, we finish 3rd they finish 5th. Drop out of UCL & into Europa and we beat them in the final.
Finished last week actually in Amsterdam, it was amazing
Because it’s not the bid holding up the deal it’s the deferred wages that Frenkie is owed!
It's not your own money, I get it, but still!
And by upping the bid by another 10m, we "help" Barca to solve that issue. We say to Barca and Frenkie's agent, what is the difference between you guys, and we fecking pay it.
Sucks balls, probably is a daft one from a business perspective but every man and his dog, and 'Arry is shitting on this transfer now, the season starts tomorrow and I'm not convinced we have the ice on our veins to keep going with this stance of "letting them sort it out".
Didn't really answer the question, what good is it? Answer is clearly none, the deferred wages make it void.
If we want him then Barcas asking price is the prior fee plus additional coverage of his deferred wages.
There's just no point going on about some previously agreed fee because it's not relevant to the situation.
Sounds ok then you remember you assuming Barca who are totally skint are going to agree to defer the payment towards what he is owed.
I just don't see how it's even workable to offer more, assuming they use it to clear their debt. How is it even worded and legal agreed, when it's their debt and not ours.
Going by their dealing this whole transfer, would be even more daft to try and get involved in a side agreement to pay more to cover it. Then back to the simple question of why the hell would the club pay what Barca owe their own player. This is their mess not ours.
Just shows how much a shitshow Barca really are at the moment.
7 concerts within a month?
ETH is morphing into Ole by the day praised Maguire saying he was a successful player then kept him as captain. The other day he was talking about the right players only joining United when the teams full of dross. We are no closer to signing FDJ after 3 months of speculation. Why is he insisting on getting this guy? It's ridiculous chasing someone who doesn't want to leave and then to make him the highest paid as well? He'll create another Pogba situation with malcontent group because of his wages. Beyond ridiculous. I hope ETH’s not another Glazer puppet in charge.
Hasn't played a single league game yet and he's becoming Ole. Eurrrgh.
Few things here you're getting mixed up.
1) he wouldn't be the highest paid, reports that he'd be on between 270-300 k /week.
2) Yes that's ridiculous, which is why it's likely not true. He's likely insisting on it because he believes his former player wants it.
Wowee.
Personally, I don't think that will do it. Barca are skint and scrounging for cash. Any money we give them to help settle up with Frankie will be skimmed. We give Barca 10 mil to fix this and they'll offer Frenkie 3m and try to pocket the rest. It's what deadbeats do.
Cheer up mate!
My vote has been on walk away since the poll went up. I've lost faith in this going through a while now (Would love to be proven wrong) and at that point it looked like the club weren't even considering alternatives. Only very recently has there been any talk of the club actually considering alternatives.
A proper DOF would have pulled the plug and got some alternative midfielders in. It's a disgrace that we are going into the season without midfield reinforcements, a few poor results in August could destroy our season and chances of getting back into the Champions League, never mind the loss of sponsorship because of another 'write off' season.
Maybe football isn't for you, its meant to be fun. To get this annoyed at this point in a new managers reign is staggering.
Hang on...my mate wants to know if you are part of Pearl Jam or just an avid fan. He's really into them
I don't get why people believe that. We aren't publicly pulling out now, that ship has sailed. To 'pull out' now doesn't look good, because it is public acceptance that we've fecked up massively. We'll quietly move on (judging by recent sound bites, wouldn't surprise me if we have already done that) and try to sign other players to take focus away. FDJ will then do whatever he is going to do quietly in the background. That will be the clubs plan. We're probably hoping that the return of football and possibly good performance will offer further distraction too.
I'm sure they have alternatives in mind on some level, if they actually think they will add value to the squad that justifies a pricetag, but personally I'd love to see Savage or Iqbal given a few goes before the window closes if our senior players get injured.
However.
I am 100% perfectly happy that we haven't approached other clubs as a show of faith towards RdJ until 13th August when Barcelona must register their players by. That would give us a bit over two weeks to go after other players if we feel the need, and that's not an unreasonable timeframe.
However.
I am 100% perfectly happy that we haven't approached other clubs as a show of faith towards RdJ until 13th August when Barcelona must register their players by. That would give us a bit over two weeks to go after other players if we feel the need, and that's not an unreasonable timeframe.
Its pretty smart of Frenkie's agent to leak Chelsea are his preference, now we're gonna have to tempt him with higher wages
Changing my vote to embarrassing. Still hopeful we can sign him... but it's looking less and less likely by the hour. Just a shocking ordeal if this doesn't get done.
I wish he'd hurry up and feck off so we can move on to getting a midfielder in and stop wasting time on fecking FdJ
What a made up load of crap
8 actually, should have been 10 but Prague and Amsterdam night one got cancelled..anyways I will say no more as it’s obviously not the thread for it
Close the thread ffs, it must have a carbon footprint the size of half of China. Servers melting the world over to power gigabytes of muppetry for a transfer as likely as my next date being Ana de Armas.
that brings back memoriesHonestly, in all my years of supporting United -- starting back in the pre-Fergie days -- I have never ever heard of a deferred payment/owed salary scenario.
Back then, this is what I was more focused on:
Shoot magazine insert/gift at the start of every season. And not someone's feckin deferred salaries.
Simpler times.
Honestly, in all my years of supporting United -- starting back in the pre-Fergie days -- I have never ever heard of a deferred payment/owed salary scenario.
Back then, this is what I was more focused on:
Shoot magazine insert/gift at the start of every season. And not someone's feckin deferred salaries.
Simpler times.
I just burst into tears when I saw this.
This should be framed and kept as an example of entitled, impatient, mardy arsed football fan posting at it's very best / worst.
You are not embarrassed. You are hopeful.
Don't be embarrassed to claim to be hopeful.
Fred/Mctominay/Eriksen/Garner/Iqbal/Savage isn't too bad depth wise tbh.
Sometimes missing out gives a youth player a chance. I think Iqbal could be a big surprise this year for us.
I understand ETH’s desire to reunite with the player he knows but he should have set a deadline weeks ago for this deal to be done or we walk away. Its already 3 months and the season start in 2 days. ETH’s already to blame for this De Jong fiasco.
Not as long as personal terms with the players aren't agreed. United did the easy part, agreeing on a fee with a club that desperately wants to sell a player.
I live in Manchester and grew up and lived in London City for 8 years. London and Manchester are not the same.
Iqbal is what im thinking too and quietly praying for a shock start this weekend
Yah. It's such cute a way to keep track of the season
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